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| No, it isn't. |
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By vsucks - Posted on November 17, 2005 - 05:38:38 (#18370)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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Porting GPLFlash 1 is a useless task. I believe it was done a few years ago. Until they release the Flash 7-compatible rewrite, the original version is actually less capable than this player.
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| untill ? |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 16, 2005 - 21:35:31 (#18369)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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They won't update it. Ever.
All is not gone, though.
This is worth looking into and bringing to BeOS/Zeta.
http://gplflash.sourceforge.net/
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| Believe me.. |
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By vsucks - Posted on November 16, 2005 - 13:43:08 (#18368)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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You're not missing too much. This player is so outdated that it won't work with most Web implementations.
Save your money until Macromedia and General Coffee update the player.
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| Pop-up |
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By AshMsx - Posted on November 16, 2005 - 13:32:58 (#18367)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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I hate this pop up!! I preffer don't have flash...
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| about flash on Mozilla and firefox... |
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By cvincent - Posted on February 22, 2005 - 13:16:22 (#15934)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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To have flash into mozilla or firefox
create if not existe a folder with name "plugins"
into exe folder.
After this copy a link from player into the "plugins" folder you have created.
After restart the browser all work :)
CKJ
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| Flash and Mozilla 1.8 |
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By kraton. - Posted on August 23, 2004 - 12:27:29 (#13953)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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How to get it work with my Mozilla Browser or my Firefox.
In which folder do i have to trow the plug-in or add-on.
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| hate commerial on beos; most if it only possible way to have sth (here flash) |
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By alzen - Posted on July 4, 2004 - 17:14:52 (#13209)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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deam guys, i hate tricks like that, yep, a lot more shareware, pop-up based applications for beos like this one and we will end like second full-of-commercial os. these guys want money cuz for now it is as i know only flash player for beos; ok, nevermind, someday situation will change and everyone will forget about things like this one.
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| My 2 cents... |
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By ablyss - Posted on December 17, 2003 - 02:29:18 (#10004)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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Many many years ago in a galaxy far far away....
BeOS has got some very good people.. This is not a question in my head. Those who try it will complain and their complaints are oh so good.. Developers didn't just fall of a tree yesterday you know? A good complainer is sweetiness to a developers ears.. Now BeOS developers had a major ordeal confront them, and likewise many left from the ordeal. Why stick around an listen to folks complain about crap when its just not getting anywhere? Point being BeOS Apps are not gonna be really what they should be... and being open source OBOS for the the BeOS future, it would be safe to assume it may take a while for any major software to be avaiable.... But some people always want the latest drivers, the latest gizmos, the latet whatever. However forget that when it comes to BeOS.. people here don't care about what other people think because we are to damn good for that.. Born again from the ashes like the pheonix.... standing a part being steadfast to what was the bleeding age in the mid 90's. The future is right around the corner.. so you ain't got flash, or you ain't got Msn. and and and and... don't forget to thank Bill Gates for this mess while you surf your fancy web site with flash... im sure 23 million made a lot of folks happy at Be Inc.. anyways enuff said..
--ablyss
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| Ummmmm |
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By brian68 - Posted on December 17, 2003 - 00:07:37 (#10003)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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$12 isn't that much, eh? It's old technology, but at least it's being updated. I'd pay twice that to get a version that's on par with the players on "other" platforms, but we're just not there yet.
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| No Pop Ups |
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By Randall - Posted on December 16, 2003 - 20:12:40 (#9999)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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I will try apps with time limits. I will not try apps with rude 10 sec pop-up reminders. so I guess I'll never try this app or ever own a copy of Flash.
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| BeOS, Emerson and Flash |
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By IgRussell - Posted on December 16, 2003 - 17:52:28 (#9997)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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Maybe I am no beos guru, I do not have any idea about coding, maybe I am just a mediocre user, but I am happy with beos. I love writing with my Gobe better than Office or linux, I like sending emails using mail it, I prefer snortmonitor better than zonealarm, and I love beshare 1000000 times more than mirc. I love this app, as any app for BEOS, and I like this plugin. No observations about complicated issues, maybe it is not perfect, but sorry there, I like it, I enjoy surfing with it, and it does a great job (in my case). Waldo Emerson said once that "what you do, is like a storm on your head, and it storms so aloud, that I cannot hear what you say aganist it". So do not tell me those silly things, and answer this or any other app with coding, better than (free) critizicing. I cannot stand critics, they are usually frustrated people, unable to do anything.
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| heh |
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By Jess - Posted on December 16, 2003 - 12:39:24 (#9994)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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Ya it's cheap & it does allow some of the Be user base to continue to watch Home Star (& thats a damn good thing) But really what have they imporved? any how this is my problem not any one else's I just see it like this. the net+ plugin is usless since aside from a few animations many sites use flash for navigation. So if they are using flash 5 & below still the net+ plug in is useless since if you remove the flash animation from the server it's on it can't direct you to the pages it links to. That's IF the site uses flash 5 & below. if it doesn't your flat out hooped now what about stand alone flash animatins - plenty out there are flash 5 compatible but as for a demo the pop up times are nuts. Thus the cranky "More Cow Bell" joke. It just seems over the top unnessecary & while most every one appreciates the work it just seems like they have said here try our pad locked sealed in a safety deposit box application. The water mark + pop ups just seems like flat out harrassment & that's what set me off. I mean you've already got that watermark messing with things so you can't see to play gmes & stuff so functionally I think it's far more then enough to make someone buy it if they would but the pop ups just nuke the whole thing. You can't really watch much to see if you'd want to pay for it with out having to click off a pop up. It's their decision but when I try something out I don't expect it should simulate using Internet Explorer popup warz. Maybe a timed trial is a nicer way to say "Quit Tire kicking" it will play 1 min of a movie each lauch & at least let you see 1 min of performance instead of 10 seconds & nag on top of the water mark. Just my gripe & I know you appreaciate it Jace so it's a rellivant product to you. I just find it annoying. you want your product to be inviting. The only thing this does it make me want to punch some one in the face. Pop-ups == senseless violence :)
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| Way to be supportive, Jess... |
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By Jace - Posted on December 16, 2003 - 00:31:21 (#9984)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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At least it's being updated. Maybe if more people had purchased it originally, General Coffee Company Film Productions would see value in putting out the resources to support Flash beyond the current version they support. My god, this thing only ever cost about 12 US dollars.
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| Man like Cow Bell to a... |
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By Jess - Posted on December 15, 2003 - 22:30:46 (#9983)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1015 |
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like "More Cow Bell!" to a Blue Oyster Cult Song you can't even try this supposed update. It's not bad enough there is a water mark but pops every 10 seconds. While my stongy & poverty stricen butt would normally want to support Be development I have to say this is just lame. Outdated flash with all the pop up wonders of MSN Hotmail... well minus the pr0n. I think General Coffee needs to hire Chris Walken to do a "More Pop Ups!" add for them cuz I don't see any one paying for this as is. Time to update or whip out a gimmick cuz this is just lame.
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| Yes, but... |
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By Jace - Posted on November 22, 2003 - 08:40:25 (#9712)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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He's said that the work is on hold and going slow due to other obligations. I hope he succeeds, though :-)
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| May be interesting |
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By Zigouni - Posted on November 21, 2003 - 00:55:34 (#9698)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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On yT forum, there are some interesting information concerning the Flash player. Especially Jayf's answer :)
Here is the link :
http://yellowtab.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=976
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| An update, cool! |
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By Jace - Posted on November 20, 2003 - 18:02:50 (#9696)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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As one of the buyers of this player, I have to say it's nice to know that they wanted to do an update. I hope they manage to get around the problems they are having with Macromedia licensing and get us support for new Flash versions.
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| That Did It:-) |
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By IBeDuke - Posted on November 20, 2003 - 11:16:39 (#9691)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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Thanks for that tip.
I downloaded (Mozilla) FireBird then created a symlink from this Flash Player to the FireBird plugin directory.
Now it seems to work perfectly.
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| Re: Working:-) |
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By mmu_man - Posted on November 20, 2003 - 10:03:51 (#9689)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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They open in a new window because NetPositive doesn't know about plugins.
If you use Opera or a Mozilla flavor, you can just symlink Flash Player in their respective plugin folder, and it will work inlined in the web page.
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| Working:-) |
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By IBeDuke - Posted on November 20, 2003 - 09:22:33 (#9688)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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Very nice. Thanks for posting this!
Loose ends:
(1) I'm running this with NetPositive. I never did find the "Plugin preferences panel" mentioned in the documentation.
(2) My test page is http://www.phototrace.com with the Flash movie at the bottom. When the Flash movie plays its in a separate window. It plays perfectly, but how do I lose the separate window thing?
(3) Took a bit of fumbling around to figure out the plugin-daemon needed to be started. Documentation is clear about how to make this happen in userbootscript; but could be clearer for the first time through.
Easily worth registering and $12 IMO; so now I'm figuring out how to do that.
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| Maybe the swfdec could be utilized. |
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By Karina - Posted on November 20, 2003 - 08:18:37 (#9686)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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http://swfdec.sourceforge.net/
Seems to be slowly making progress, I'm sure one of the many skilled developers on BeOS would be welcome to get involved.
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| wow, still in business ! |
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By mmu_man - Posted on November 19, 2003 - 11:13:21 (#9684)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1014 |
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Though it still doesn't support newer formats, it's nice to see General Coffee still cares about BeOS !
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| Macromedia licences |
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By tb100 - Posted on March 20, 2003 - 13:42:42 (#6488)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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You can apply to macromedia to license their flash player source code. This is so you can see a reference implementation of the player.
However, the SWF file specs are free and open (look at www.openswf.org I think), so with GCC already having an existing vector graphics engine and support for flash 4 files, couldn't they just add the new functionality for flash 6 support? I doubt any of the old features have changed much. Otherwise, there are some SWF players partly done on sourceforge. Looking at these, and the flash 6 specs, we would certainly have enough info to write it ourselves. It is just a question of developer time, resources, and priorities.
So go on then gcc, how much work to just add the additional flash 6 support into your existing graphics engine?
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| I don't see why Macromedia would refuse to license Flash5 to GCC |
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By Prognathous - Posted on March 20, 2003 - 08:42:08 (#6483)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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They did license it to InnoTek who makes a similar player for OS/2.
http://innotek.de/products/flash/flashnews_e.html
Prog.
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| it's old... |
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By ahwayakchih - Posted on January 4, 2003 - 04:00:51 (#5138)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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Flash5 is already old. Current version is Flash 6 (a.k.a MX).
I doubt that petition will change anything. Better to make better offer to Macromedia, or just start our own
player (not as impossible as You think probably).
By better ofer i mean company which can fully support player and is mainly software company. How would You react if You owned some gret technology and some small company, not software even wanted license it? If that company would fail, bancrupt, whatever, Your technology would get only bad opinions from users left on their own. Also so small userbase (comparing to others) and OS which is a ghost right now doesn't recompansate eventual complications.
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| 1000+ sigs needed |
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By looncraz - Posted on January 3, 2003 - 23:38:24 (#5132)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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Yeppers, we need More than twice the sigs we have!!
www.PetitionOnline.com/beflash5/
Remember, you don't have to run BeOS to sign!!
--The loon
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| Definitely needs more sigs |
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By brian68 - Posted on January 3, 2003 - 18:48:10 (#5128)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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I'm not sure what the target is here, but I would imagine they are looking for at least 1000 interested people. C'mon and bug *everyone* you know to sign this thing!
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| Help to get flash 5 to BeOS |
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By Micke - Posted on January 3, 2003 - 14:00:19 (#5126)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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General Coffee Company have traid to license Flasf 5 but was deniad. But there is a petition at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/beflash5/ to help GCC to get the license. Also to help thier is a mailform at macromedia so you can mail them and tell them what you think.
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| Me2 |
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By the_hUm - Posted on January 3, 2003 - 09:26:57 (#5119)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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I'd like to know aswell. If they make a new version, i'll pay for it.
Yours
Roger Andre Lassen
hUMUNGUs
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| Is the "General Coffee Company" dedicated to future development for BeOS? |
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By Prognathous - Posted on January 3, 2003 - 09:19:18 (#5118)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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I want to know that before I open my wallet.
Prog.
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| Re: Actually... |
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By mmu_man - Posted on July 3, 2002 - 03:58:10 (#2088)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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It is _not_ OpenSource, and even less FreeSoftware, as you have to sign an NDA to get the source code.
If you want a really OpenSource version (Freesoftware even), check http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/ (someone to port it ?)
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| Mozilla and Flash as easy as 1 2 3. |
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By Zaranthos - Posted on July 2, 2002 - 23:44:42 (#2083)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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Drop a link to the flash player into the mozilla/plugins folder and add the filetype info to the Mozilla preferences. Restart Mozilla and you have Flash support.
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| Actually... |
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By aphex - Posted on April 6, 2002 - 20:33:31 (#791)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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Its open source, from Macromedia.
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| I do care for BeOS!!! |
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By IgRussell - Posted on April 6, 2002 - 13:10:55 (#784)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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I forgot to post the link. http://www.unesco.org/webworld/portal_freesoft/Software/Operating_System/ I think it would be fine if we write emails and let BeOS get there. It is worth it.
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| I do care for BeOS!!!! |
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By IgRussell - Posted on April 6, 2002 - 12:41:33 (#783)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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Well, I believe your comment is real, but too pessimistic. First of all, let me tell you I am buying BeOS from the other side of the planet because I can´t find it here and I can´t buy it from countries near me, so if you can give my email to any of your friends who threw BeOs away, that would be great. =). I discovered BeOS some weeks before last Xmas at work, because windows does not work at work, we could not use MacOS or linux, and blah, blah, blah, and the system turned out to be terrific!!!. Many people are using BeOS still, and other people are coming to BeOS. Maybe a solution would be to have a core of developers, and other newbies like me giving feedback and sending a few backs to bebits and beshare. Or sending emails to the Unesco project of freeware website (they have linux). Yeah I agree the picture is not good, but I don´t know, i don´t feel like throwing BeOS away. I have bought a Bebox recently and waiting fro my pro version and Bible. I like this, and so does other people, and I need it. So there´s a chance. Maybe not a chance like Microsoft or Sun, but a chance.
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| maybe :not |
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By pahl - Posted on April 6, 2002 - 12:14:07 (#782)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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there was a time when i would have gladly dished out for any app i wanted...but look around :\ Beos is just barely hanging on...im just hanging on...seems like a ghost town O/S.where are we running to?i really hope this thing gets saved..but at one time i told myself
its only a matter of time...java..shock...etc.. it'll all come together and users wont have to humble themselves and suffer with an incomplete O/S. ButBe is gone!Now we wait and wait for who knows what if the O/S
is dead(pending a hopeful new release) why not freeware, what should be bundled app's in the first place..(excluding newly developed apps)especially when allot of folks i know threw R5 away when things got bad.If no one cares about beos anymore then just give me my shockwave...opera...etc...!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Unfair |
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By Jess - Posted on April 6, 2002 - 09:43:16 (#781)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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While I agree it's cheap, it is quite lame that certain things we have to pay for. I show people BeOS all the time, but at some point they ask things like "What about Flash?" "What about Msn?" "What about Java?" While these are small semi unimportant things they are free on other platforms & seems unfair we have to pay for them. I can't say that thats the only problem as WareZ have spoilt most windows users. There are other little things we have to pay for that other OS's get for free legaly & some days it just plain sucks.
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| No... |
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By Jace - Posted on April 6, 2002 - 09:29:32 (#780)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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It's free "everywhere else" because Macromedia gives it away. Macromedia doesn't give a crap about BeOS. It's great that they even let the player get ported. General Coffee Company's BeOS version is not free because they made it themselves with licensed materials from Macromedia. It only costs 12 bucks, for crying out loud, and it works quite well. Until BeOS has companies like Macromedia embracing it, you have to pay for the little things. It's not like you have to pay that much.
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| i want it free |
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By pahl - Posted on April 6, 2002 - 01:29:52 (#775)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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i would like to see this app freeware..mostly becouse it doesnt work all that well and hey look around!its free everywhere else....until beos has a really full featured web browser i think ill just avoid flash all together..wierd thing is ...if beos was just fully internet functional...it would have allot more users.so developers:please..please..please..:)
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| Flash5,6 |
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By aphex - Posted on April 5, 2002 - 23:16:37 (#774)
Current version when comment was posted: 4.1013 |
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Updated Flash 5 (Or six) someday?
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