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| Re: Re: Re: Slow directory listings |
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By nutela - Posted on December 3, 2006 - 14:37:42 (#20998)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Interesting, how about putting the icon into the inode ;-)
32x32xbitdepth=1024xbitdepth too big? I guess R5 and Dan0 have 8bit colour
Phos has png icons
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| enhancement request |
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By nutela - Posted on December 3, 2006 - 14:26:58 (#20997)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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"You can't replace a folder with one of it's subfolder(s)" I got that when I wanted to make a simlink in the parent folder (Desktop) off an app wich was in the folder with the same name.
Rather than an error a rename option-dialog would be nice. An idea to make it even more user-friendly.
Thanks Axel it really shines.
PS: I wonder about your some years old now video recorder app, should I give it a try?
Your the best ;-)
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| thanks to make it for PPC |
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By whaka - Posted on November 15, 2006 - 16:30:10 (#20923)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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many thanks to make it for BeOS PPC :)
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| Re: Re: Slow directory listings |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 21:50:14 (#20914)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I say that there should be a tracker option to not look for directory icons, since this is a slow down issue. The plain folder icon should be displayed instead of looking for the custom one. Any how there seems to me like if you tweaked the right things and left out some of the extra features used that take up too much time that could work.
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| Re: Slow directory listings |
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By Cyan - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 19:57:17 (#20913)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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This is one of my biggest complaints with Tracker too -- always has been, even pre-R5. It's improved gradually since Tracker became OpenTracker, but not enough to really fix the core usability problem. With a few hundred to a thousand files in a directory, it takes forever, especially on the first pass when it isn't cached.
I think it has something to do with loading the icons from the files, along with any attributes (which can be used as sort criteria) before displaying them?
One possible way of accelerating it might be to display the file names first, then fill in icons and other attributes on a second pass, similar to what Windows 98 explorer does. Obviously this would only work if you were sorting by name, size or date, but since those are the most common sort criteria anyway, it would definitely help. Doing the same with the pop-up menus (Be menu, secondary-click menu, etc.) would also help the feeling of responsiveness in the OS a lot.
Any idea how feasible this would be to implement?
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| slowness in listing directories in tracker |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 18:11:31 (#20912)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I have a directory with many folders and the tracker takes too long to show them all. However, when I am in the terminal and use 'ls -w9' all the folders are shown just about instantly, so why cannot the tracker do this? (I use navitracker if it makes a diff)
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| Re: add-ons/other problems |
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By axeld - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 18:01:35 (#20911)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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If you can't reproduce the problem with OpenTracker, I cannot help you - even if I wanted to, the sources of NaviTracker have never been released to the public.
Anyway, that the add-ons start to work again might be "accidental" - something you did might have caused BeOS to flush the add-ons, but don't ask me what that could have been - without the sources I can only guess.
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| add-on now works |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 17:51:02 (#20910)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I havent restarted but now the desktop background add-on works withouth the error now. Is there an explination for this ? My uptime shows
14:50:50 up 2 days, 1:31
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| thank you but another problem |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 14:19:44 (#20909)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I use navitracker and I created a 4GB BFS partition. From in /development a strage problem occurs. No folder can be created. When I right click everything above 'List View' is missing like New>Folder. It is as if the partition is read-only. I can, however rename files and everything else. I have to create directories from the terminal.
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| Re: error when changing desktop background |
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By axeld - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 05:37:28 (#20905)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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As I said, it's a system wide limitation of BeOS. When the add-on space is full, there is nothing you can do besides rebooting. Poor, but that's it.
Haiku doesn't have any limit on add-ons - but that doesn't mean you can open millions of it if you don't have enough RAM and swap space ;-)
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| error when changing desktop background |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 12, 2006 - 01:26:25 (#20904)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Error loading Add-On(Background-B): No Error. Even when I restarted the tracker. How come when I restarted the tracker the add-on limit does not reset? And who is in charge of maintaining the add-on memory... when does it get empty, why does it fill up and not manage itself accordingly ? If the limit is completely removed in Haiku does this mean that the memory just keeps on getting eaten away?
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| left click on desktop don'r show all mounted volume |
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By AlienSoldier - Posted on November 5, 2006 - 16:17:39 (#20870)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I noticed that when i test haiku, the image i mount to drag file to my haiku partition only show in the app SVM and in the tracker master root "/" and not in the tracker pop menu of when we click on the desktop.
On a semi related note, is the fix i did read about in haiku CIA some time ago about being able to unmount a device even if a query or something refer to that device will make it into a "R5able" tracker or is that haiku specific? Not that it's that much an issue right now but i can see that becoming a real pain if someone want to use a USB HD.
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| Re: add-on |
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By axeld - Posted on November 2, 2006 - 04:30:42 (#20852)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Does that only happen with FileTypes? I never saw that error particularly, but having looked at the sources, that's exactly what will happen when load_add_on() fails - I've fixed that now (the wrong error message), thanks!
I would guess the error itself stems from another BeOS limitation: there can only be 32 MB of add-ons in your system at any point - after that amount is full, you cannot load any other add-on afterwards. That limitation is somewhat lifted in Zeta (IIRC it's 128 MB there), and removed completely in Haiku.
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| add-on blues Filetype-F |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 1, 2006 - 19:32:59 (#20851)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I get this annoynig problem frequently after having the tracker on for a while.
The message is:
Error loading Add-On(FileType-F): No Error.
Thank you!
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| okay then |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 1, 2006 - 18:06:33 (#20850)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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It's sort of a one-off bug but whatever it doesnt bother me that much.
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| Re: win+alt+h |
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By axeld - Posted on November 1, 2006 - 17:40:11 (#20849)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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What makes you think he didn't? He sure did, but we were just not able to resolve the issue. And as it's working fine over here, I am 100% sure it's not an OpenTracker issue.
IOW you have to wait for Haiku to resolve this, sorry.
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| hasnt worked for me |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 1, 2006 - 17:05:11 (#20848)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I use dvorak keymap, still happens.
What about R5+ BONE ? I and the author of HashBrown have noticed this as I pointed it out to him from email and he said he would conact you and ask, but that is evidently not the case.
http://www.bebits.com/talkback/4228
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| Re: win+alt+h |
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By axeld - Posted on November 1, 2006 - 15:42:02 (#20847)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I've heard of this problem before, but since it works fine over here with plain R5, as well as Dano, it might be a problem of another component (maybe the input_server? For reference, I used the German keymap when testing).
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| win+alt+h |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 1, 2006 - 02:03:05 (#20846)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I want to know why win+alt+h does not work for the tracker add-ons.
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| i changed my mouse double click speed |
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By AlienSoldier - Posted on October 31, 2006 - 21:05:26 (#20845)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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it's indeed linked to that, thanx for the tip. It was at slow. I setted it to the notch just before fast, fast itself make it frentic.
I can't think myself of a reason why it's linked to that setting.
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| Re: pop-up delay |
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By axeld - Posted on October 31, 2006 - 18:15:42 (#20844)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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The current timer is computed after the double click speed you configured - I've no idea why it's done this way, but on my system, it's less than 2 seconds. I think a fixed time would make sense.
Anyway, if you press the "shift" key while dragging, the delay is shortened to 0.2 seconds - that should help you until I change how the delay is computed :-)
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| timer for the poping of sub directory structure in a drag and drop |
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By AlienSoldier - Posted on October 31, 2006 - 17:06:15 (#20843)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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the title say it all :)
I have a Download directory (have we not all have one). To quickly sort my stuff i have most of the usual directory i send file to as symlink there. That way i can put stuff where it should go and i'm happy.
The problem is that to not get lost in windows all over the place i like to use the feature that allow maintaining your "drop" over a particular directory until the directory tree structure pop up. All work fine but there is a 5 sec delay that start to anoy me more and more. I can understand that this timer should not be too low because poping too fast would bring it too easily when unwanted, but at is current value it make the system feel unresponsive.
What i propose is to reduce it to 2 seconds. Any problem about that?
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| Cool |
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By Jess - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 22:38:03 (#20285)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Good to hear, I'm still using an old SVG Tracker but it's still the most functional for how I work. I'm REALLY hoping to see Haiku on my laptop... Pray with me now people.
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| PNG Icons w/ OpenTracker |
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By looncraz - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 16:03:51 (#20284)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Jess, I have been keeping my Tracker project (for PhOS/Dano/Serenity/Haiku (when ready)) up to date and current, but just not on-line. My source will not be opened as of yet, but it is very stable and effecient (I utilize around 4~16MB of memory usage for Tracker w/ PNG icons).
Internet should only be a couple weeks away, and I have a lot to release (mostly for testing) at that time, so just stay tuned.
--The loon
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| Icons and Icon View Options |
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By Jess - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 14:40:24 (#20283)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Just wondering if there was any planning to add sorting options to the Icon View. Like ensuring folders are listed first, sorting by type or date etc. Also curious about the visual path of icons. I'd like to use my nice PNG icons.
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| Re: PPC build details |
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By axeld - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 08:55:11 (#20280)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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PPC build fixes will always be added to OpenTracker as long as BeOS R5 is supported.
There were no changes necessary, though, as we have some contributors that keep an eye on PPC compatibility, most notably Alexander G.M. Smith.
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| RE: PPC Build details |
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By memson - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 07:20:00 (#20279)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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I meant, did the porter make changes to the source, or did it compile as-is?
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| Re: PPC build details |
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By axeld - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 06:34:45 (#20278)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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It shouldn't crash BeBoxen. What you experience is probably the same BeOS bug that appears on R5 x86 as well. Anyway, this *might* have been worked around by this release, but your mileage might differ.
Anyway, just download the archive and have a look - if Tracker is a tiny application, it's dynamically linked.
I don't understand what you mean by the availability of source changes - this is an open source project.
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| PPC build details... |
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By memson - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 06:03:13 (#20277)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Axel,
do you know if the PPC build was statically linked? I know you favour dynamic linking of libtracker.so, but in my experience this tends to crash BeBoxen and dual processor Mac's... Are any source changes made available?
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| Re: Version, Haiku, PPC |
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By axeld - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 04:33:44 (#20276)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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To AlienSoldier: Yes, I also noticed that shortly after the release. I will fix it for the next point release, thanks!
To El_Al: Tracker is using private Be API, it won't run on Haiku unchanged. It has been ported to Haiku, though, and the Haiku version is up-to-date as well (so there is no need to replace it, anyway).
To Matt: thanks for the offer, Oliver was faster than you this time, though :-)
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| No Tracker or Deskbar after update on Haiku |
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By El_Al - Posted on August 3, 2006 - 02:53:15 (#20274)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Hmmm...I'm perplexed! Installing the update on my Haiku partition breaks both the Tracker and the Deskbar. I'm stuck at the desktop with a nice blue background and only my (working) mouse pointer for a friend! :o/
I can't imagine how I can have installed it incorrectly. Anybody advise me on what may be wrong?
El-Al
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By AlienSoldier - Posted on August 2, 2006 - 19:18:48 (#20270)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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in application type i still see the 5.2.1 number. As tracker and deskbar don't have "about", version number should be correctly inserted in them.
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| PowerPC build |
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By memson - Posted on August 2, 2006 - 15:41:32 (#20267)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.3.0 |
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Do you still need a PPC build?
I'll make one is required.
email me to confirm.
Matt
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| Re: Nightly built sources archive |
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By axeld - Posted on June 21, 2006 - 07:24:41 (#20037)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.2.1 |
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Thanks for the note! Sourceforge did not only change (again) the repository locations (I forgot to update the starting.html page, but I did that now), they also remove your crontabs from time to time.
I've now rebuild a new sources archive manually, and installed a new cron job so that it should be build automatically and nightly again.
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| Try this version of tracker |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on June 20, 2006 - 18:48:51 (#20036)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.2.1 |
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I have been using NaviTracker 0.54 test, even though its from 2004 it's still the best one yet. 3dEyes** makes it. Download:
For Dano: http://www.hanasoft.ru/files/NaviTracker0.54test-Dano.zip
For R5: http://www.hanasoft.ru/files/NaviTracker0.54test.zip
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| Found it via cvs |
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By Diver - Posted on June 20, 2006 - 18:01:55 (#20035)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.2.1 |
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I just found it via cvs.
I followed instructions on http://www.opentracker.be/starting.html as to how to download from cvs, but it seems that now you should do:
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@opentracker.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/opentracker co -P opentracker
instead of
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/opentracker co opentracker
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| Nightly built sources archive |
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By Diver - Posted on June 20, 2006 - 17:52:02 (#20034)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.2.1 |
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Axel, where i could find nightly built sources archive?
This seems to be an old one as last file modified in this archive is dated 2005
http://opentracker.sourceforge.net/downloads/OpenTracker-src.tgz
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| @vsucks |
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By _3dEyes - Posted on November 7, 2005 - 23:28:59 (#18251)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.2.1 |
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NaviTracker is my old project...
Latest binaries:
R5 version: http://www.hanasoft.ru/files/NaviTracker0.54test.zip
Dano version:
http://www.hanasoft.ru/files/NaviTracker0.54test-Dano.zip
Themes:
http://www.hanasoft.ru/files/NaviThemes.zip
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| NaviTracker.. |
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By vsucks - Posted on November 7, 2005 - 21:02:13 (#18250)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.2.1 |
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Does anyone have ANY info resources about this? It's not mentioned on BeShare, on the Internet ('cept in Russian). I've tried it out. It's actually pretty nice, skinnable, etc. Hasn't crashed on me yet.
Sorry, but I have no idea where else to put this.
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| 2 AxelD - Tracker.NewFS |
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By SD - Posted on January 2, 2005 - 18:31:02 (#15254)
Current version when comment was posted: 5.2.1 |
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Actually i don't miss all those eyecandies from current version of NewFS, but rather quite fundamental things, like those functions in navigation bar text form, which look very native to BeOS idea - like live filtering with metasymbols, or handling there not only folders, but other files by Enter key - just applying default registered handler - like opening texts in StyledEdit or images in ImageViewer.
Live filtering is absolutely fantastic faeature, actually i lost any need for special ftp-client, using it together with ftp-fs, but this is true to any other fs.
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