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More questions here

By nymia - Posted on October 29, 2002 - 04:25:16 (#3851)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Maybe this is asking too much, but I need to ask.

Does BePDF have the ability to expose some of its methods to the outside world. This is relating to the Document Object Model of BePDF.

I think you know what I mean here.

Embedding BePDF

By nymia - Posted on October 29, 2002 - 04:16:57 (#3850)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

That was my guess, though. Subclassing the PDF BView was the one I was thinking about.

One thing I noticed was I didn't get the source code when i downloaded them. Can somebody help me on this one.

Browser plugin

By laplace - Posted on October 29, 2002 - 01:10:09 (#3847)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

if someone can provide template plugins for Net+/Opera/BeZilla it should be very easy to extend them to display PDF streams.

Drag and drop ...

By laplace - Posted on October 29, 2002 - 01:03:00 (#3846)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

... is already implemented. Make a selection and drag it with right mouse button pressed to a Tracker window or Desktop. Release the mouse button and select the file format from a popup menu to save the selection.

By aphex - Posted on October 29, 2002 - 00:43:10 (#3845)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Whatabout a mozilla/opera plugin like the Flashplayer? =D That would be cool! :) Also It would be cool if you were able to select something and drag-n-drop it to the desktop as a tga image! (ok SVG would be real cool) =D

Well anyhow, BePDF rocks, thanks! :)

Re: Embedding

By laplace - Posted on October 28, 2002 - 23:01:20 (#3842)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Embedding a PDF view, this is the view that displays one page (without scroolbars, statusbar, toolbar, etc.), is possible, but with the limitation of one PDF view per application only! Note that BePDF starts a new instance of itself for each PDF document opened in a new window.

Re: Feature request

By laplace - Posted on October 28, 2002 - 22:50:28 (#3841)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

accepted. It will be implemented if it's feasible with the standard BScrollBar.

re: misza & laplace's motivation

By BiPolar - Posted on October 27, 2002 - 12:37:37 (#3812)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

misza: sorry for the 'Eat That'. You got me there. It's just that i find rather difficult not to consider BePDF a GREAT app. One of the things that i love from linux is xpdf's performance, but BePDF gives me that with style.

Sorry again.

And, for laplace's motivation:

Bravo Michael!!!

---
A VERY happy user of BePDF.

Quick Question

By nymia - Posted on October 27, 2002 - 08:00:49 (#3809)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

I'm not a PDF guru nor a PDF user.

I have one question about using your code, though.

Would it be possible to use some parts of your code as a component? Like embedding BePDF into an application.

By jonhart - Posted on October 26, 2002 - 14:22:05 (#3801)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

The mouse wheel doesnt work on USB mice, so just being able to scroll past the page normally, or even having page up and page down buttons in the scroll bar would work.

It's already there

By ahwayakchih - Posted on October 26, 2002 - 09:24:05 (#3798)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

if You use mouse wheel :)

Same request

By Ram - Posted on October 26, 2002 - 08:13:59 (#3797)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

I had the same request in mind ... :)

scrolling behavior

By Intelinside - Posted on October 26, 2002 - 08:07:53 (#3796)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

I really kinda like the way it is now, how about an option to choose between the two?

Feature request

By jonhart - Posted on October 26, 2002 - 07:46:57 (#3795)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Id like to see a continous scrolling mode, where I can scroll from one page to the next.
It is quite interupting to scroll to the bottom of the page and then have to go and click on the next page, scroll again etc.

thanks for the new libbepdf.so

By chriscapoccia - Posted on October 26, 2002 - 01:13:25 (#3792)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

that new libbepdf.so corrects the problem I was having. The native renderer would insert the capital letter "A" in some documents where spaces should have been. I took two screenshots (and cropped them) of bepdf rendering a pdf with this problem.
With the old lib:
http://kandent.com/image/bepdf-old-lib.png
and with the new lib:
http://kandent.com/image/bepdf-new-lib.png

before, i could select the ghostscript renderer and everything would look ok on screen, but it would come out of the printer with the A's everywhere. this new library fixed that problem too.

one other note about the A's. If i took a pdf that had this problem and converted it into another pdf with ghostscript, the problem went away, but i was left with a larger file.

Bug fix release planned

By laplace - Posted on October 26, 2002 - 01:00:37 (#3791)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

thanks for the encouraging feedback. In the next couple of weeks I plan to fix some bugs and make a new release. Please let me know what you want to be fixed.

Michael

I like BePDF Better

By Intelinside - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 23:23:48 (#3786)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

I like BePDF for one simple reason, it is so much Faster
Adobe Acrobat reader is slower then a retard reading Piglatin
I hated anything to do with the PDF format untill i used BePDF

for laplace's motivation

By s_d - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 21:43:32 (#3784)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

I can say more.
One girl/woman from russian BeOS community switched her company to BeOS usage mainly due to convinience and capabilities in work with PDF. She uses BePDF, PDF-Writer + GobeProductive and Ghsotscript and found it pair BePDF+Writer very powerful and impressive.

By Androo - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 20:24:25 (#3780)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Of course it can't be perfect ... no PDF viewer other than Adobe's will ever be perfect. BePDF renders most things perfectly well for me, though there are problems here and there. Keep it up, your work is appreciated.

Re: Pros and Cons

By laplace - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 18:57:37 (#3779)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Thanks Ruprect,

my motivation to continue development increased one point ;)

Pros and Cons

By Ruprect - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 18:35:42 (#3778)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

First off, I just want to thank you for making a very great and (from my perspective) incredibly mature program. BePDF has come a long way with great attention to detail. The toolbar is beautiful -- and if you naysayers out there think that's unimportant, then you dont' know BeOS.

I've had phenominal luck with BePDF. All my datasheets render great, and I use the PDF format like nobody's business. On a few occasions, I've printed a PDF and some text came out illegible, but that's been the exception.

Don't let the whiny trolls get you down! BePDF remains a very valuable addition to the BeOS experience.

Re: Want to post something positive/constructive?

By laplace - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 18:14:45 (#3777)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Misza,

(or anyone who wants that BePDF will be improved), please create a list of weakpoints and post it here or send it to me. Without feedback the motivation for me to make any further changes is low.

Thanks,
Michael

PS: I was also a student when I started to work on BePDF and have now a full time job...

It's coming along nicely

By brian68 - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 09:47:37 (#3770)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

There's quite a bit that goes into this thing, which is easy for anyone to forget when they hit a roadblock trying to use it. Very understandable. FWIW, I can remember dreading the sight of a pdf file -- on Windows AND Mac. They hosed my machines 50% of the time or more. I had to stop whatever the hell I was doing and save all my work because the chances were good that everything would blow up when I tried to open a file.

For many years, Acrobat Reader was a smoking pile of shit. Adobe certainly had the resources to fix things, but chose not to or could figure out how to. Even today I cannot click on a pdf if I'm using Nutscrape 7. The blank-screen-of-death will stare back at me 'til I have a ZZ Top beard! If I do a Save As...I get a file that thinks Netscape should open it instead of Acrobat Reader!

Putting things in perspective, I think this app has done quite well. It works decently, and even when it has some difficulties with rendering, etc., it still never crashes. Patience, grasshopper. The developer knows what he's doing, but like all of us, has other things cookin'. He's very responsive and would probably welcome feedback and feature requests.

By misza - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 07:43:42 (#3766)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Want to post something positive/constructive?
All I was saying is that it's unrealistic to say that this app is great given all the inadequacies it has. In the real world it doesn't perform as you think, that's my point. Instead of posting stupid comments, think next time. I could help with this project if
a) I had more coding experience
b) I had more time (I'm a uni student)

There's no need to get immature.

By BiPolar - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 07:35:59 (#3765)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

By laplace - Posted on October 23, 2002 - 17:06:48 (#3731)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

> The rendering could be improved ALOT.

Well just do it. Take over the project. It's GPL.

Printing Font Problem

By laplace - Posted on October 23, 2002 - 17:04:11 (#3729)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

I am aware of this problem, since someone send a bug report to me and it is fixed, but since I received only 1 (ONE!) email about this, I found it not worth to release it to the public yet.

You can grab the updated libraries here:
http://bepdf.sourceforge.net/temp/libbepdf_x86.zip
and
http://bepdf.sourceforge.net/temp/libbepdf_ppc.zip
respectively.

re:Bad People Out There...

By misza - Posted on October 23, 2002 - 08:24:59 (#3724)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

You can't be serious! This app, though it might be nice for viewing some PDF files, CANNOT print to my printer correctly! It garbles all the output making it pretty useless. I have to use windows to print the PDFs. I would like to see this fixed, it's not only me that has experienced this. And the rendering could be improved ALOT! PDFs like http://teaching.ics.mq.edu.au/units/comp125/lectures/125w11-6up.pdf look crap in BePDF , anyway to fix this??

It's a nice enough app, on the surface, but in real life it doesn't deliver.(i.e. printing is garbled in almost all cases & most documents look really bad when rendered in BePDF)

Bad People Out There...

By BiPolar - Posted on October 23, 2002 - 05:58:50 (#3721)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

That's what I think, or you have a better explanation about someone that vote for BePDF with less than six !!!

It's so cruel, because I think that BePDF it's one of the best app for BeOS. Ever.

By laplace - Posted on October 14, 2002 - 17:37:05 (#3597)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

BePDF does not support filling out forms yet. It's on the long term todo list.

If there is demand, I could add support for another annotation type, the FreeText annotation, that would allow to place text anywhere on a page. Just let me know.

slightly erroneous install

By laplace - Posted on October 14, 2002 - 17:29:31 (#3596)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Hopefully I don't forget to setup this in PackageBuilder correctly for the coming releases.

2 sketzski - PDF writer driver.

By s_d - Posted on October 14, 2002 - 00:57:43 (#3582)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Are you unsatisfied with it?:
http://www.bebits.com/app/2494

print PDF to file or PDF printer from any BeOS app.

By sketzski - Posted on October 13, 2002 - 21:50:43 (#3578)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

Will BePDF be putting in features to write to PDF @ all? i was recently trying to fill out an application and realized i couldn't do it.

By Intelinside - Posted on October 13, 2002 - 11:19:20 (#3573)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

The Mime types for BePDF on my PPC machine work without a hitch, But i have noticed in both X86 and PPC that some files especially after being over on another OS create all sorts of problems, My Solution is just setting the prefered app manually with the file types add-on, and that solves my problem. and make sure you save, the save option is unfortunetly obscurly tucked away in the pull down menu, suprisingly easy to miss

slightly erroneous install

By shatty - Posted on October 13, 2002 - 08:39:15 (#3571)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

the installer tries to install the psfonts (zaphdingbats) to: /boot/home/config/fonts/fonts/psfonts when it should be: /boot/home/config/fonts/psfonts , shouldn't it?

Bad results on BeOS PPC

By memson - Posted on September 14, 2002 - 12:43:46 (#3149)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.4 Beta 1

I have BeOS R5 running on a PM9500 dual processor machine. The current all in one package has the following problems:

1. PDF files seem to want to open with the wrong app mime type. They seem to want 'application/x-vnd.hub.x-pdf'. This ma be a problem with an older version of BePDF having set up that mime type and no being gone, but I can't get PDF documents to accept the correct mime type... Always get the 'Can't find application' dialogu and it doesn't find/include BePdf as an option.

2. Rendering is awful. I have PDF's encoded with Ghostscript on the PC and they come out as absolute garbage. Whilst this may be Ghostscipts fault, they render fine in both Acrobat Reader and Ghostscript.

If you want to mail me and chat about these issues, feel free to.

Matt

Excellence in Programming!

By Daren Scot Wilson - Posted on May 12, 2002 - 22:37:59 (#1401)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.3

Summer of 2000: Using BeOS almost happily, but some apps were a little flaky. BePDF especially was, back then, buggy enough to drive me to try Linux...ug, bloatware galore! and a pain to configure, and other problems drive me back to BeOS, but PDFs are a problem to read reliably.

Spring 2002: It's a VERY DIFFERENT WORLD! After one more flirt with Linux/KDE (slow, heavy, weak apps) I reload BeOS on my Sony notebook, and discover with great joy that BePDF is solid, reliable, and lets me view almost every PDF file I have. Many other little bothersome quirks, weaknesses and lackages of BeOS apps have also been fixed - BeOS is the most productive, enjoyable, dead-weight-free system I've ever used! I cannot emphasize too much how reading PDF is vital to my work as a low-level bit-twiddler - having a strong healthy PDF reader now makes life heaven!

The new liblayout.so

By Eugenia - Posted on May 12, 2002 - 22:13:14 (#1400)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.3

Yes, better use the new liblayout.so by default, it fixes problems with Dano among other things.

By asedin - Posted on May 12, 2002 - 21:28:18 (#1399)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.3

The new AllInOne package is a brilliant way to
simplyfy installation for new users.
One thing thou, there is a new "liblayout.so" version
available in the latest SoundPlay package.
Still, I love it!

Superior :))))

Re:Drawing Lines?

By laplace - Posted on April 22, 2002 - 11:57:45 (#1083)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.9.2

Anti-aliasing can be enabled in the preferences too.
Preferences -> Ghostscript Renderer



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