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like a duck
 By Jess - Posted on November 29, 2004 - 00:54:08   (#14887)
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NetO has been dead for years as far as I know, FireFox fixes are our best bet.

NetOptimist development
 By holgerwis - Posted on November 28, 2004 - 16:04:45   (#14885)
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Hi there, would be very interesting for me to know if there is any progress or development regarding NetOptimist. I take a large interest in that because seeing the alternatives at the present is not very good

a) NetPositive is a bit old now and has big difficulties to show topical webpages in a proper way
b) Opera has got Version 3.62 (while Windows is actual 7.60+) an there seems no further devolpment for the BeOS Version
c) Mozilla and Firefox can not print unfortunately - a missing but very important feature for me

Perhaps someone has information for me regarding devolpment or alternatives.

Thanks,

Yours Holger

uh updated?
 By Jess - Posted on March 25, 2003 - 17:47:29   (#6598)
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most peopl know Net optimist is dead. past that read again
"2002 NetOptimist Team Page last updated 22 February 2002"
No updates for over a year.

Re: Project Status
 By industroslaad - Posted on March 25, 2003 - 16:14:51   (#6596)
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I'm not involved in the project at all, so don't take my word as gospel, but I'm pretty sure this app is still being worked on. The webpage; http://netoptimist.sourceforge.net/ has been updated since I last checked it as well, which is a positive sign.

How is it going ?
 By Icewarp - Posted on March 20, 2003 - 10:58:28   (#6486)
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Is this project abandoned ? Any news on this ?

R.I.P.
 By michaelvoliveira - Posted on December 31, 2002 - 15:43:54   (#5071)
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Rest In Peace, NetOptmist

Michael Vinícius de Oliveira

dead?
 By aphex - Posted on December 30, 2002 - 14:10:57   (#5052)
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Is this project dead allready? *sniff*

This is a great project
 By aphex - Posted on October 6, 2002 - 14:11:53   (#3466)
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How is the project coming along?

Constant updates...
 By michaelvoliveira - Posted on September 5, 2002 - 07:42:21   (#3030)
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Please keep this app updated.
We believe in your power

Michael Vinícius de Oliveira
BlueEyedOS Webmaster

Great thing
 By xduffy - Posted on July 21, 2002 - 09:55:03   (#2289)
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I am very positive (optimistic *huhuh*) towards your project...

I am very new to BeOS and when i started NetPositive I got a surprise... Ok, it's fast, which is very very nice.. but it just can take newer pages...

And as I've seen someone say in the sf forums, Mozilla is very slow...

What I find strange is that the window flickers when loading the page... I guess it does that when loading all the images... But it is very irritating :-)

Anyway, it seems to render pages just as good as NetPositive... but netpositive (as you say on you page) shows the page when it loads it much better...

Anyway I can help?

Great software!!! Please read my comment for more datails.
 By michaelvoliveira - Posted on April 23, 2002 - 09:29:09   (#1109)
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The best idea is recreat NetPositive. This application is really good. Lack source-code avaliable only, but it's a great project :). Anything recreating and cloning the BeOS is interesting.
Keepers of the project: please contact OpenBeOS Project and include this application into R1 for more apreciation!!!

Good Job, guys. Keep the BeOS alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh great!
 By Stas Maximov - Posted on April 23, 2002 - 06:37:46   (#1107)
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This is great idea, Brian! Looking forward to see those screenshots from BeBox!


Stas & kian
 By brian68 - Posted on April 22, 2002 - 18:20:46   (#1094)
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Thanks to both of you for your help. I did DL NetO for PPC, but can not get it to work very well. I also did find the "experimental" cvs tools for PPC. Haven't had a chance to work with them yet, but as soon as I get my "new" BeBox online, I will take a shot at working with the sources.

If there is anyone out there w/PPC and some experience, they could do a much better job...I'm still coming up to speed.

:-)

2brian: ppc cvs again
 By Stas Maximov - Posted on April 10, 2002 - 09:22:27   (#869)
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Actually check here: http://ftp.ktu.edu.tr/beos/experimental/tools/
I've found CVS v1.10.7 compiled for PPC. But again, I don't know what version of BeOS it compiled for and if it is still working...

2brian: ppc cvs
 By Stas Maximov - Posted on April 10, 2002 - 09:03:19   (#868)
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Sorry Brian, I don't have PPC myself, so I don't know if the PPC version exists. But what I know for certain is that you may contact the guys who compiled cvs for BeOS/x86, and here you will have two options:
1. Ask them to compile PPC version for you (can be done using cross-platform dev. tools on x86)
2. Ask them for sources and compile them yourself.

PS: It doesn't help a lot, but at least you know your choices :)

ppc binary
 By kian - Posted on April 9, 2002 - 16:35:59   (#852)
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I have uploaded a ppc binary on sf.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=23078

It has been build about a month ago though.

Where can I get cvs for PPC?
 By brian68 - Posted on April 9, 2002 - 15:32:35   (#850)
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Thanks, Stas, but where can I find a version of cvs that runs on PPC? I've looked around on BeBits, but so far can't find anything...

Its not that easy
 By ade - Posted on April 9, 2002 - 13:12:24   (#847)
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PPC-NetOptimist with NJS is not possible due to the "LIGHT" (Data per Object cannot be bígger than 64k) Version of Metrowerks Compiler and "C" cast problems, which you can change if you cast all Variables manually... This would mean that you increase the NJS-Source by a Number of lines.

Yes.I tried some weeks ago and I got only the NetOptimist running...

But nevertheless. Keep up the great work!
Perhabs OBOS will be ready sometime so that we can build OBOS-PPC with GCC 3.0.

2brian: how to get sources
 By Stas Maximov - Posted on April 9, 2002 - 04:00:10   (#840)
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Just download and install cvs and ssh clients. You will find the instructions how to get the sources with cvs-client in CVS section of the project.

HTH, Stas

Re: BeOS PPC Version?
 By brian68 - Posted on April 7, 2002 - 22:21:11   (#813)
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Thanks for the instructions, but I have been unable to figure out how to get the source download from SourceForge. Are there any PPC clients for it? The SourceForge site itself provides horrible how-to info.

I've looked around a bit, but have not been able to locate either the tools or necessary instructions to successfully download/check out any sources. Any help in doing so would be greatly appreciated.

Re: BeOS PPC version?
 By kian - Posted on March 8, 2002 - 15:36:46   (#566)
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I think it should be quite an easy task :
1) download cvs source as described here :
http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=23078
2) get NJS 0.2.5 from http://www.bbassett.net/njs/
type "./configure --arch=ppc ; make" (not sure
about the `arch=ppc')
3) put all source files in a BeIDE project file,
add libbe, libsocket, libtranslation and libjs.a
4) shake

great
 By aphex - Posted on March 8, 2002 - 12:57:10   (#564)
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vive la france. i like it. Kicks mozilla in lots of ways. Keep the good work! If you could get SSL, CSS and Javascript working (dreaming) it would really really awesome =)

regards aphex

BeOS PPC version?
 By atlamp - Posted on March 7, 2002 - 21:55:34   (#553)
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Awesome effort. Please keep up your great work!

I'm curious how difficult it would be to develop/compile a PPC version of the NetOptimist? (obviously not the BONE version). I'd love to see a PPC version.

Cheers

Andrew

Net-optimist very much needed alternative
 By atapahs - Posted on February 26, 2002 - 12:48:39   (#462)
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I applaud you, there need to be an alternative to mozilla and opera, which both seem kinda of bloated, keep up the great work. Can't wait to see the next couple of inprovments.

RE: why CSS so late
 By Stas Maximov - Posted on February 26, 2002 - 10:55:54   (#461)
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As Stephane said before, rendering engine is on its basic stage still, but, IMHO, it should be relatively easy to implement CSS support using current NetO object model.
Thanks for your interest and support, guys.

The best alternative...
 By cvincent - Posted on February 26, 2002 - 01:25:05   (#457)
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I think it's the only webserver we must to support on BeOS and OpenBeOS, because it 100 % BeOS Api, and not a port !!

One question, why CSS so late?
 By arougthopher - Posted on February 25, 2002 - 17:27:34   (#453)
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On your site, you state that CSS will be one of the last things that you will implement. I can understand this from the point of view, that it will be hard to implement, but, if I were to have created a browser, I would probably had started by looking at CSS first. Why? It defines how everything should be displayed. With your object model taking CSS into account from the get-go, other objects could easilly be implemented from CSS. A heavilly tabled page can be rundered in nothing but style sheets, meaning that tables could be handled internally by calling style sheet code.

This is just my opinion, and creating a browser from scratch is no easy task, and I applaud you for your efforts.

more features, more bugs
 By Jstrick - Posted on June 17, 2001 - 22:25:54   (#313)
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A little disappointing. Lots of cool new features from preview 5, but much less stable. Tables have issues with center, It bombs on errors instead of just giving error messages and so on. I don't mean to be discouraging - I STILL think this is a very worthwhile project and will continue to download and test it enthusiastically.

I look forward to preview 7.

Not bad for a first release. Better than BeZilla at that age.
 By Jstrick - Posted on April 26, 2001 - 22:21:33   (#285)
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I can't say this browser is really usable yet, it's missing some fundamentals and it's *really* sluggish, but it's on the right track certainly, and it doesn't just crash when it doesn't understand something, which is a pleasant change from some browsers.

It's good to see someone with the stones to stop whining for net+ to be opensourced and write their own. Bravo, and I'm looking forward to the next release.

 
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