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Compiling for X86
 By StarWarsLegacy.net - Posted on March 26, 2008 - 04:46:58   (#22632)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
Ok, I got some sources, moved to the src directory, typed "make" and it did not compile.

I hate to sounds dumb, but that's what there web page seemed to be telling me to do. How do I compile this for X86?

THankx!

beos on PPCs
 By umccullough - Posted on March 26, 2008 - 03:04:45   (#22631)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
(do some googling!)

http://www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist_ppc.html

No need to use a PPC to run this...
 By umccullough - Posted on March 26, 2008 - 02:59:15   (#22630)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
It even runs on x86 now.

See here:

http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/

Also what is the newest Mac that You can run BeOS on?
 By StarWarsLegacy.net - Posted on March 26, 2008 - 02:56:58   (#22629)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
Was wondering.

worth it?
 By StarWarsLegacy.net - Posted on March 26, 2008 - 02:52:34   (#22628)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
So if I picked up a classic PPC Mac, would this be worth it? Does it work that well?

Where to Get the COMPILED Sheepshaver
 By befreedomizer - Posted on November 9, 2005 - 18:38:15   (#18257)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
If you want the simple compiled sheepshaver, which you can just double-click and run, go over to http://www.bebox.nu/os.php?s=os/macos/index. You can click on the link to download sheepshaver, and get mac os 7.5.3 right below it. You simply need to unzip sheepshaver and double click it, and it'll run! Happy computing.
P.S. How come there are so few beos apps for ppc anymore? Pick up the slack my friends! Some of us still use old macs!

New homepage
 By Egregius - Posted on October 3, 2005 - 14:49:51   (#17925)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
The new homepage is at http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/

Various versions downloadable via:
http://gwenole.beauchesne.free.fr/sheepshaver/files/

New location for Sheepshaver?
 By lavo - Posted on August 26, 2004 - 09:30:32   (#13972)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1

Does anyone know where I can get the original release for R4 PPC?

here's the source
 By kvdman - Posted on March 28, 2004 - 18:46:07   (#11711)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
http://gwenole.beauchesne.free.fr/sheepshaver/files/SheepShaver-2.2-20040224.tar.bz2



Someone make a new binary please...for Zeta!
 By kvdman - Posted on March 28, 2004 - 18:44:45   (#11710)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
Hi, as you may know, Sheepshaver now has Power PC support on X86.

I tried to compile from source, but run into errrors, and don't really know what i'm doing.

Could someone compile a binary?

here's the error I get:

In file included from /boot/home/Desktop/SheepShaver-2.2/src/BeOS/main_beos.cpp:71:
/boot/home/Desktop/SheepShaver-2.2/src/include/cpu_emulation.h:58: error: cpu/vm.hpp: No such file or directory
generating dependencies for main_beos.cpp
dep/main_beos.d:2: *** missing separator. Stop.
/boot/home/Desktop/SheepShaver-2.2/src/BeOS:

Do you use any special settings for SheepShaver?
 By Prognathous - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 23:10:09   (#4421)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
OS 8.1 under SS is almost unusable, where as running it natively is just fine for my needs.
The difference is immense, much bigger than with "real" emulators that I tried in the past (VPC, Bochs, VM-Ware, UAE, Basilisk2).

Prog.

Yeah, now
 By ade - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 20:31:57   (#4417)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
It works great ... I just removed 4 old DIMMS / 8 MB RAM each. With only 160MB of RAM left the system rocks under BeOS again...

:-))

To have some comparison: GlTeapot gives around 18fps.
Note the GFX card is not supported natively!

Some more information ...
 By ade - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 17:18:43   (#4414)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I have not that much experience with PPC and BeOS.
I just have had a PowerPC 4400 200Mhz(which is known to work and listed there)and
now this 7300 which still does not work always...

But if I get it 100% to work I will post it there.

Here some information from LowEndMac.com

2) Will the BeOS work with my Mac?

I won't repeat Be's own compatibility page, but my general rule of thumb is that if your Mac is upgradeable to a G3 through it's processor card or L2 slot, it's probably compatible with BeOS. No 7200s, first generation NuBus Power Macs, and no PowerBooks are compatible.

Here some conclusion from LowEndMac.com:

BeOS doesn't support Macs that shipped with the G3 or G4, like the iMac or G4 Cube. [...] The short story is that Apple refused to provide information about the motherboards. Be decided that it was too risky to build a business on reverse engineering Apple's motherboards, so they put their efforts behind porting BeOS to x86 processors. But BeOS can support the G3 processor.

I used BeOS on a PowerCenter Pro/G3 and had no problems. And talk about fast!


BeOS on G3 CPUs is mentioned on Frizbe.net
 By Prognathous - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 17:12:54   (#4413)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
See here:
http://hardware.frizbe.net/info.php?product=555&category=3&sub=21

Nevertheless, it would be a good idea to add more comments with exact specs and results.

G3 & frizbe
 By Jess - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 17:06:56   (#4412)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
Have you thought about adding the G3 useable cards & boards on Frizbe. From what I see there is no info on G3 hardware for Be there. All older ppc based hardware. Please make a list if you have time & add these things to the hardware listings.

What Be told was
 By ade - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 16:52:34   (#4411)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
that they had problems with the chipsets and NOT with the CPU itself... so the 7300 Board is known to work with BeOS(PowerPC ready-to-use-list) as well as the chipset of course...
More people reported that their G3's Upgrade cards works on older boards...

I hope I can get mine regulary to work since I bought my 4400ppc recently to get this 7300 (faster) one.

-A

G3...
 By ade - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 16:39:46   (#4410)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
Hmmm. Its a 7300 with a Sonnet G3 400Mhz Upgrade card.
Sometimes BeOS starts and sometimes not! Its a pity.
But I thing its not a problem ralated to the G3...
I must check SCSI and Memory configuration I thing ...

-A




Yes indeed
 By Jess - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 16:32:39   (#4409)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
G3 & G4 for unsupported cpu so if you got Be running on a G3 you best give up the trix!!!

Just curious, how did you manage to run BeOS/PPC on a G3?
 By Prognathous - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 16:25:57   (#4408)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I thought it only supported Old World Macs (pre-G3/post 68K, PPC Macs)...

Prog.


Basilisk II ...
 By ade - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 16:06:44   (#4407)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I've tried SheepShaver on 7300 G3 400 and MacOS 8.6 runned as fast as it natively does. This is quite impressive...
Maybe you expected a bit too much from your PowerMac. 160MHZ isn't that fast :-(

-A

Well, it works! :-)
 By Prognathous - Posted on November 26, 2002 - 16:03:05   (#4406)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
But Basilisk II on an 850MHz PC is faster (compared to SheepShaver on a PowerTower 166Mhz Mac clone).

At least SS runs PPC-based Mac applications, unlike the 68K-only Basilisk.

Thanks for realising this very nice tool for free,

Prog.


Sheepshaver's future
 By brian68 - Posted on June 11, 2002 - 11:39:07   (#1771)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
At www.sheepshaver.com (you can get there through archive.org), there is a news item dated 3/31/01:

--
This project is going Open Source soon. It will probably be merged with the Basilisk II Macintosh emulator.
--

No idea where it stands today, though.

Sheepshaver sources available through cvs
 By brian68 - Posted on June 11, 2002 - 11:29:49   (#1770)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
The author responds promptly to emails, and can tell you where to access the sources via cvs. I have it in an email somewhere, but probably faster to get it from him. Maybe if enough PPC users express interest, he'll resume development. My guess is that it wouldn't come until after the OpenBeOS PPC folks switch to gcc. My $0.02.

dream on about X...
 By BryanV - Posted on May 4, 2002 - 21:42:22   (#1299)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
It's important to note here that the PPC machines that BeOS runs on aren't supposed to run OS X. They can, of course, thanks to a little tool call XPostFacto. Check out http://www.owc.com for more on that.

You may try running XPostFacto on SheepShaver... that'd be an interresting expirament. But I doubt it will work. (Due to OS 9 not working)

or G4-upgraded clones!
 By Jace - Posted on May 4, 2002 - 16:31:21   (#1295)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I've recently been acquiring Mac-clones (UMAX) and have taken to them. BeOS and PPC machines go well together. So... yes, Long live BeOS PPC!

Anyone know if the author of SheepShaver still plans any updates (like OSX support)?

Shave dem sheep!!
 By brian68 - Posted on May 4, 2002 - 07:06:16   (#1287)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
This is an incredible app. Hopefully it will continue to be developed. [dreaming] Wouldn't it be neat to be able to run MacOS X in it.... ;-) I know it would suck on really old hardware, but on G3 upgraded Macs...

yeah ;)
 By aphex - Posted on May 4, 2002 - 03:54:14   (#1286)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
This app makes my machine usefull =)

Great Program
 By ThinkDiff - Posted on May 3, 2002 - 22:31:20   (#1282)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
First, In response to a previous question, this has been FreeWare since 2.0.

Second, This program is great. Long Live BeOS on PPC!!!

Freeware? Since when? Cool software, indeed!
 By Jace - Posted on May 2, 2002 - 00:14:49   (#1251)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I thought SheepShaver was commercial software. When did it become freeware? I'm not complaining, though.

I noticed the web site for SheepShaver seems to be missing, too. What's the status of the developer?

I recently started using BeOS on a UMAX Supermac C500. Today I started using SheepShaver. Way cool! A bit faster (looking for a faster machine) and I'd consider moving all my BeOS/Windows activities over to BeOS/MacOS and retire my 233MMX Intel machine.

This means I'm one more PPC BeOS user... I hope that we find a way to keep PPC BeOS alive.

Who else uses SheepShaver? Anyone out there have comments about this handy and cool BeOS app? :)

 
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