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By BeJay - Posted on July 29, 2005 - 13:14:18 (#17349)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Really looking forward to the new release. :-) I'm sure it will be good!
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| New release |
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By NathanW - Posted on July 22, 2005 - 15:28:02 (#17293)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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I should be doing a new release in the next couple of days.
-Nathan
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| Please, please, bug fix! |
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By BeJay - Posted on July 22, 2005 - 11:21:52 (#17290)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Guys, it would be really nice to have a bugfix at least for BONE version to restore the spam filter and autostart
(currently its necessary to open 'e-mail' in preferences and save it before MDR will start.)
Best regards,
BeJay
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| GUI Bug |
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By zuMi - Posted on July 15, 2005 - 19:12:31 (#17219)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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In BeMail->Preferences the "Show Icons Only" option doesn't work..
R5+Bone
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| SSL'ed mail server |
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By MYOB - Posted on July 12, 2005 - 18:41:38 (#17189)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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You need a gmail invite Alex? They use SSL/TLS on pop and smtp.
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| Re: R5 SSL/haiku tree |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on July 12, 2005 - 18:38:09 (#17188)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Sounds easy, I've already got the OpenSSL stuff (so I could use SSH V2 to talk to Berlios's SVN) so the rest should be easy to do. Then all I'd need is someone with an SSLed mail server to test it.
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| R5 SSL/haiku tree |
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By NathanW - Posted on July 12, 2005 - 16:57:01 (#17185)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Building an R5/SSL release is actually completely trivial -- I just haven't been able to locate any volunteers. After having installed OpenSSL (with headers), just do this (in the root of the Haiku tree):
export USESSL=1
./configure --target=r5
jam haiku-maildaemon-cvs
Which is essentially the same procedure as on BONE, or anything else. We probably should do a bug fix release, though...
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| Re: Bugfix release? |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on July 12, 2005 - 14:27:14 (#17182)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Now that I've finished the VNC stuff, I'm revisiting the spam filter with an eye towards updating the algorithms for tokenizing and maybe scoring. I don't know about SSL under R5, for that matter I'm currently just trying to get it to compile for R5 from the Haiku tree. That will take a while - need to learn Jam first. But if SSL in R5 is important to people then it's worth a look to see how hard it would be to do.
- Alex
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| Bugfix release? |
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By BeJay - Posted on July 11, 2005 - 12:54:10 (#17171)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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I know everyone is enourmously busy with Haiqu at the moment but is there any change of a bugfix release to fix the spam filter, and especially to implment SSL in netserver version? Hope we might see 3.0.3 soonish.
Thanks in advance!
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| Re: R5 Daemon Filter |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on June 10, 2005 - 13:54:23 (#16855)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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To learn about writing filters, start by looking at the source code for the Fortune filter. OK, start by getting the source code first, then look at it. Besides being able to modify the message, filters can also return a code that tells the system to delete the message, or that your filter took care of it (moved it somewhere for example) and no further processing is needed.
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| R5 Daemon Filter |
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By zuMi - Posted on June 9, 2005 - 17:36:37 (#16848)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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OK, tnx for the answer.
Probably using R5 daemon filter plugin and proper scripts I can realize some of those ideas, but I don't know how use the daemon filter K(
I haven't found any documentation about it ! Can u teach me ?
zuMi
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| Re: Some suggestion/request |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on June 9, 2005 - 01:43:52 (#16843)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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One architectural improvement needed first would be to have more communication between plug-ins. So you could have a second plug-in use the results from the first one. Possibly as easy as defining a standard attribute to share the info between them as they process the message.
The rest of the ideas sound good. Someone else wanted a white list, possibly with auto-generated reply e-mails asking people to validate their e-mail address.
It would also be good idea to port Popfile http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ to do the e-mail classification into multiple categories, which then get stored into an attribute to make it BeOS friendly.
Filters aren't too hard to write, so a novice programmer should be able to do some of these. Wish I had time - the first thing I would do (after getting Haiku to compile) is to update AGMSBayesianSpamServer to use the new SpamBayes algorithms and tokenization tricks. And maybe fix the GUI :-)
- Alex
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| Re: Some suggestion/request |
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By zuMi - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 20:28:30 (#16841)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Ops, I forgot again to tell another thing about bemail, what about a "remove" consignee feature like Beam?
And I need to correct myself:
"Have you never wanted to send a mail to a bunch of people that matches defined requisite?"
it's better than
"Have you never wanted to send a mail to a bunch of people that matches defined requesitions?"
Real EOF
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| Re: Some suggestion/request |
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By zuMi - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 19:58:54 (#16839)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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About Labeller I forgot to tell that could be more eyecandy to set different icon for each label, like using template file to use with a svg tracker
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| Re: locale (lrj) |
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By Philippe Houdoin - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 18:53:31 (#16835)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/opentracker/locale/
I bet Axel have already imported it on his haiku local copy, but he's waiting before commiting into SVN...
Bet on R1 rather than R2...
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| Some suggestion/request |
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By zuMi - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 18:45:48 (#16834)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Hi guys,
I want share with you some neew ideas I have made about mdr, especially those plugins:
1- Killer:
This plugin if enabled checks if the sender address is present in a kill list, like the agmspam plugin this adds a button in the toolbar where you can choose if kill,block or allow the current sender.
If you select the "kill" flag the mails coming from the specified address will be automatically deleted in the future (a better option if it'll be deleted directly from the server), if you flag "block" the mails will be marked as "blocked" ( in its name or in an attribute).
Obviously these are default options, so for example you can optionally set to move the mail in an other dir than ~/mail/in, etcetera.
2-Labeller:
This function allows you to set a label for the current mail, like "work","friends","enemies","hot chicks","free viagra","easy bucks" and so on, in a MAIL:label indexed attribute.
Like the previous one this can be used from the toolbar or a menu, or better with keybindings like SHIFT+ALT+NUMBER, the labels can be edited like with the signature editor.
3- Enclosure Lister:
this one is bitter less useful than the other ones but have you never wanted to search a mail with a particular attachment, like that funny picture that George send me sbout he and Saddam ?
If you have ever wanted this feature than could be useful a plugin that adds in a MAIL:enclosures attribute a list of its attachments.
4:- Mail to Query :
Have you never wanted to send a mail to a bunch of people that matches defined requesitions?
So what could be better than the ability for bemail to send mail to a query listed with normal people file!
5: Extended autocompletion:
This feature in bemail is actually present, but could be better if it shows all the matching items instead of the first, if you have a gmail account I think that you have already understood this feature.
EOF
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By ljr - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 17:21:24 (#16833)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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In the past, I added french as a third language thru MDR macro... but it wasn't nice : it was a source patch....
Zeta locale is quite nice but not opened :-(
Actually it don't take care of dynamic locale change (must restart apps).
I'm waiting the Haiku one (planned for 2.0 no ?!)...
PS: i updated the Zeta build as it missed locale for mail_daemon and in/outbound protocols.
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| Re: *Haiku* Bemail 3.0.2 for Zeta (localizable) |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 03:57:57 (#16824)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Cool! You can be the official MDR maintainer now :-) Real localization was something on the to-do list from long ago, though we did get a hacked localization for Japanese working. I expect someone will be updating it to use the Haiku localization system when it exists.
- Alex
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| *Haiku* Bemail 3.0.2 for Zeta (localizable) |
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By ljr - Posted on June 7, 2005 - 12:05:00 (#16818)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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For info, i built a version of Bemail 3.0.2 for Zeta which uses a locale file (BeMail.xxXX).
-> http://ljr.free.fr/archives/beos/bemail/haiku-maildaemon-3.0.2-zeta-x86.zip
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| People Files on Other Drives |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on June 7, 2005 - 04:28:19 (#16814)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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It seems to only look for People files on the boot drive:
void THeaderView::InitEmailCompletion()
{
// get boot volume
BVolume volume;
BVolumeRoster().GetBootVolume(&volume);
BQuery query;
query.SetVolume(&volume);
query.SetPredicate("META:email=**");
As for caching the POP headers of mail already received, it saves them (the message ID part) in a settings file (one of those Chain files I think), as a flattened BMessage. When it contacts the server, it retrieves the whole list of e-mail headers then ignores the ones it already has. I don't think there's any simple way around that - got to download them all to see what's new.
Perhaps you can delete some messages on your POP server? Or use IMAP and multiple mail folders?
- Alex
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By Kevin_Field - Posted on June 2, 2005 - 04:31:38 (#16773)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Is there any way for BeMail to look for People files on other disks than /boot? I tried putting a link in ~/ but it had no effect.
I'd like to keep my People files somewhere other than ~/ because apps tend to make a mess of ~/ that I'm too lazy to clean up, but I'd still like to have a nice, clean and controlled backup...
Speaking of which, is there some way to cache POP data? I tend to leave up to 15 MB of e-mails on my mail server so I can get at older ones if I need to from elsewhere without having to leave my computer on all day just in case. I'm not sure if it's that or maybe I need a AGMSRAMDisk or something to hold my inbox once it starts having thousands of e-mails to hold. Or am I supposed to file them and stuff? I thought the whole idea was to leave them in a heap and use queries, but it seems to be bogging down...
If you've got tips for these maybe they'd be good to put in the readme?
Thanks guys...keep on rockin' the world.
Kev
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| Re: Spam Filter Error |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on March 1, 2005 - 13:29:57 (#16032)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Hmmm, plain training didn't work. Then there's something messed up somewhere. Perhaps the BRoster has the wrong program associated with the spam filtering service? Like you suggest, a clean install should fix it. Or we could try remote debugging with VNCServer :-)
- Alex
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| Re: Spam Filter Error |
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By Tyro65 - Posted on March 1, 2005 - 04:39:04 (#16025)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Thanks, Alex. This is strange. Plain training didn't work. But it does ask me if I want to send the message to trash when I click on OK to clear the error message. And I did find an old version AGMSBayesianSpamServer and got rid of it, but I'm still getting the same error. I think I may have to rebuild this OS. Or maybe install my Zeta RC3 and try the new mail daemon on it.
Stan
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| Re: Spam Filter Error |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on March 1, 2005 - 02:46:12 (#16024)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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I doubt it is a problem with BONE. Did plain training (using the menu, not the button) work? Also the new daemon version has a renamed version of the spam server program, so make sure you get rid of any old versions of AGMSBayesianSpamServer, since they're not compatible.
- Alex
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By Tyro65 - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 18:36:23 (#16016)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Thanks, Alex.
The "in" folder is named correctly and it's in the proper place: /boot/home/mail/in/ and it doesn't delete the file before attempting to train. Darn.
I haven't tried the new daemon in Zeta yet. I'm using Bone7a. Could it be a problem with Bone7a? I also have Mail-It installed. Do I need to remove it?
Stan
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| Re: Spam Filter Error |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 14:36:05 (#16009)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Looks like a file name problem, or maybe your inbox directory doesn't exist. When you get that error, can you check and see if you can find a file with that file name in the /boot/home/mail/in/ directory? Or maybe it's a weird bug where it deletes it before it trains it - it's supposed to delete it afterwards.
One other thing you can try - right click on the spam button and try one of the plain Training options, without the move to trash part. If that works then it's likely some sort of delete problem.
- Alex
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| Re: Spam Filter Error |
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By Tyro65 - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 02:45:56 (#16000)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Thank you, Alexander.
Here's the whole error:
Unable to train the message file "/boot/home/mail/in/The mame of the email" as Spam. Possible useful error code: No such file or directory (-2147459069).
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| Re: Spam Filter Error |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 00:53:32 (#15999)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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That could be several things, from the spam server not being present or not being set up, to the file containing the e-mail being deleted or otherwise being made inaccesible (got a bad letter in the file name?) when the spam server was trying to read it. Did it print out an error code and the e-mail file name? That would help narrow it down.
- Alex
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| Spam Filter Error |
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By Tyro65 - Posted on February 27, 2005 - 22:47:22 (#15993)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Whenever I click on the "Spam" icon, I get the following error:
"Unable to train the message file"
How can I correct this? Please help.
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By Jess - Posted on February 8, 2005 - 05:36:48 (#15741)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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| New BONE build |
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By NathanW - Posted on February 7, 2005 - 20:02:41 (#15737)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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I've silently updated the BONE build so that it works now, a net_server build will be forthcoming. 3.0.3 should also be arriving somewhat soon, which is why I haven't released a new version.
-Nathan
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By Jess - Posted on February 5, 2005 - 01:21:22 (#15683)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Any ETA on a new build with fixed icons & such?
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| Icons oh Icons |
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By Jess - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 23:21:30 (#15645)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Ya it was in the mail_daemon, however on fresh boot this morning my actual BeMail app is again missing all it's icons & the text is messed up. Are you guys planning a fix soon?
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By NathanW - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 20:16:49 (#15643)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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The BONE icon issues are rdue to an incompatibility between the R5 and Dano BMessage format. The build works fine on Dano-based systems (e.g. Zeta). The SSL issues with the net_server build were due to a build error on the net_server build machine. Both problems will be rectified by the end of the day. Apologies, and thanks for your patience. If you have any other concerns about the build, please e-mail me at the above address.
-Nathan
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| Receipt, print to PDF and a spell checker |
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By j.difool - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 14:55:00 (#15641)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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First of all let me thank you for the continuous work and development in MDR.
I would like to ask if it would be possible to implement in BeMail a "Receipt" feature (the possibility to ask and reply in the form of an e-mail receipt in order to confirm that a message was read).
Another feature that could be very usefull would be the possibility to print a message via pdf writer.
At last, something that could also be nice to have in StyledEdit as well as in BeMail was a spell checker with multiple dictionaries available to it.
I know much work is going on to improve MDR, I hope you could also take in considerations these suggestions for future releases.
Best whishes.
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| SSL not working! |
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By Micke - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 12:44:56 (#15639)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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I just installed the new version. After the install I could not fetch mail from my gmail account. So I check the preferences to discovered that the connection Type settings was gone, so there was no way to specify it to use SSL. In outgoing there was no option for using SSL either.
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By mmlr - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 11:56:31 (#15638)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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I think Jess means that the four BBMP icon attributes of the mail_deamon are missing and therefore no icon is shown in the Deskbar. It seems only the BONE version is missing these, net_server has them and works fine.
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By kr1stof - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 11:07:21 (#15637)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Thanks Jess for letting us know.
Fortunately I haven´t started yet.
Any comprehensible howto (what exactly ist to do)?
thanks + regards
kristof
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By Jess - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 10:00:36 (#15636)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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I'm missing my icon in the Deskbar. I checked the mail_daemon & sure enough it's missing the icons, so beware. back up your old mail daemon before you install so you can copy the icons from it into the new build.
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By kr1stof - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 09:35:01 (#15635)
Current version when comment was posted: 3.0.2 |
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Great work - thank you guys!
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