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| I have a problem with my BeOS |
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By aerovoyager - Posted on September 9, 2003 - 17:44:47 (#8743)
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Hi I installed BeOs personal edition 5 on my Comapq Presario 7476 my problem it's that view double screen what is the solution? my video card it's integrated 8MB
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| RE: HELP NO FLOPPY |
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By kmeher - Posted on August 22, 2003 - 09:50:29 (#8574)
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You can use nero to burn the boot floppy image in a cdrw and use it to boot.
Me also i didn't installed a floppy drive since i don't use it anymore lol
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| HELP NO FLOPPY! |
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By micfau021 - Posted on August 21, 2003 - 09:06:20 (#8570)
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should i buy a extrnal drive (and will it work) or can there be a way to put it on cd (i do have a cd burner) THX FOR UR HELP!
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| Love BeOS- currently running BeOS on Linux on Windows! |
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By scofeld - Posted on August 19, 2003 - 20:41:50 (#8555)
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The BeOS rocks, it is one of the smallest, most robust, most stable OS's out there...MS and Linux keep getting bigger and Be got smaller- small enough for a download. Love it.
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| Re: The two startupproblems |
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By mmlr - Posted on August 10, 2003 - 11:42:41 (#8479)
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The problem at the second icon could be a RAM problem (too much of it). How much RAM do you have in your machine? If you have over 512 you could try to remove some of it and see if it boots then.
The problem at the end of the boot up could be related to many things ;). Try to cold start your system with the BeOS boot-floppy (if not done so allready). And try to boot with fail save graphics.
To both: If you hit space at the very beginning of the boot sequnece (when the bootloader loads from the floppy for example) you will get to a boot menu. Make sure it finds anything to boot into at all (the bootloader seems to be unable to find the PE image on some WinXP partitions). Then play arround with the save mode options (fail save graphics for example). If you enable console logging you will be able to see where it hangs.
Also take a look at http://wiki.bebits.com/page/NewbieInfo for more resources to get you started.
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| BeOS freezes before startup is complete |
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By mrhooks - Posted on August 9, 2003 - 20:40:23 (#8476)
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Similar problem as below, only for me it freezes when all seven startup icons are lit. I have no idea where to begin...
I'm running a Celeron 500MHz with Win2k, with the following things plugged into it:
NVidia GeForce 4MX 420 (PCI - no AGP on my mobo :P )
Creative SBLive! MP3+
Linksys Ether 16 LAN card
I noticed the LAN card isn't functioning properly under Win2k (recently upgraded from Win98SE, haven't worked out all the kinks yet), but that doesn't seem like something that would freeze the OS.
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| new to BeOS and having trouble... what else is new with the world? |
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By icarawizzard - Posted on July 8, 2003 - 18:27:59 (#8052)
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Well, I d/l BeOS PE 5 and installed it just fine on my XP machine(celeron 2Ghz) but when i go to boot up with the floppy it freezes when the ??nic?? card icon lights up at the boot screen. Can anyone help?
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| BeosPE install on Xp/Win98 |
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By eddieperth - Posted on July 4, 2003 - 10:55:01 (#8004)
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I am very new to Beos. I have an AMD1800, Ecs brd,512 DDR,XP installed on one H/D + Win98 on another, Both in cradles.
I have read a lot of letters re-Installation of PE. I initially loaded PE onto the Xp H/D and it worked. I then wiped it off and reinstalled onto a seperate Partition, it loaded on Ok but wouldn't boot,Said it couldn't find a Beos bootloader.
I then loaded it onto the Win98 H/D and everything is perfect.
I would like to know if anyone can tell me why on the XP H/D it cannot find the bootloader?
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| Try the Athlon patch |
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By mmlr - Posted on June 2, 2003 - 15:01:41 (#7535)
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Try to apply the Athlon patch (from windows):
http://www.bebits.com/app/3390
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| HELP |
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By sami| - Posted on June 2, 2003 - 03:09:06 (#7531)
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Hi.
I have a problem i downloaded BeOS 5 personal from the site. I installed it and made a boot disk everything got weird, i rebooted my machine with the floppy in it i come to the boot screen then i reboots again of it self so on and so on. antone know what the problem is.
I'v tryed to patch it to amd but it says original string not found
i got an amd athlon 1.4Mhz
256mb sd ram
win xp
ati mobility
please help.
you can mail me at fugee133@hotmail.com
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| Need help! |
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By sami| - Posted on June 2, 2003 - 02:58:11 (#7530)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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Hi.
I have a problem i downloaded BeOS 5 personal from the site. I installed it and made a boot disk everything got weird, i rebooted my machine with the floppy in it i come to the boot screen then i reboots again of it self so on and so on. antone know what the problem is.
i got an amd athlon 1.4Mhz
256mb sd ram
win xp
ati mobility
please help.
you can mail me at fugee133@hotmail.com
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| Patch is useless |
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By Andrex - Posted on April 26, 2003 - 09:29:42 (#7060)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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Too bad the patch does not work.
I have patched it for an AMD Duron, and I have the same problem.
And when trying to patch an image in an Intel processor machine, the string was not found.
The worst is that I have to re-download again the BeOS Max 223 MB because the previous download file was corrupt. Entire nights wasted...
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| Or try the Patcher |
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By mmlr - Posted on April 25, 2003 - 22:05:47 (#7051)
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You could also try the Athlon XP/MP/Duron Patcher:
http://www.bebits.com/app/3390
Hope this helps.
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| BeWicked BeOS PE |
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By Jess - Posted on April 24, 2003 - 21:12:40 (#7033)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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http://24.72.15.175/BeOS.zip
you can try my install.
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| Re: Thx! |
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By TwilightDawn - Posted on April 24, 2003 - 17:44:39 (#7028)
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If you don't want to use Max edition (I hear it can be buggy) you can use a hex editor to change a line in the kernel in order to get it to boot. I have a duron as well and ran into the same problem you did. Look on the wiki pages here on BeBits or ask around on BeShare/Ozone for details on how to do that. Hope you get BeOS running!
-Ben
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| thx! |
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By Andrex - Posted on April 24, 2003 - 09:26:32 (#7027)
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Hey, thanks for the quick replies.
I have an AMD Duron, but I see that it has the SSE technology.
I will try with BeOS Max Edition, (as long as I don't have to pay for that!), because I don't think the SSE instructions can be disabled in my BIOS.
Thanks again.
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| Re: Please Help! |
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By imaginereno - Posted on April 24, 2003 - 07:09:09 (#7026)
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I'm not sure what you are installing BeOS 5 PE from. However, the released version is a Windows setup that installs a 500MB "image" file of BeOS 5.0 PE.
If you have an NT or later version of Windows, you have to use the "boot floppy" to lanch the BeOS 5 PE "image" file. If you have Win98 or earlier ( dos based windows ), you can run the "Launch BeOS" program.
Essentially, this version lets you try BeOS without having to re-partition your hard drive.
Hope this helps...
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| RE: Please help! |
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By Eugenia - Posted on April 24, 2003 - 07:04:20 (#7025)
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>- None of them are readable by Windows. Is this normal?
Yes. BeOS is not Windows.
>- Both of them can boot the PC, but after a while showing the BeOS startup logo, the PC automatically reboots.
You have an AthlonXP. BeOS 5.x won't run on most Pentium4s and AthlonXPs. You will need to either:
1. Download "BeOS Max Edition" which supports the AthlonXP or,
2. Check your BIOS and try to find if it has an option to disable SSE. If yes, disable it, and voila, BeOS 5 will now boot.
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| Please help! |
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By Andrex - Posted on April 24, 2003 - 06:22:00 (#7024)
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This happened with both boot floppy and boot CD:
- None of them are readable by Windows. Is this normal?
- Both of them can boot the PC, but after a while showing the BeOS startup logo, the PC automatically reboots.
About the 5.0.1 and 5.0.3 updates, I wonder how do I install them if they are 2 files without extension. And the 5.0.3 file has the very annoying detail of an invalid character in its name (>). At least is invalid for Windows, but this is supposed to be installed on a Windows OS, isn't it?
- Please help. I really want to give a try to BeOS despite all the errors I found already, and I know I'll find more, but I want to avoid them when possible.
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| Re: USB mass storage device driver |
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By Prognathous - Posted on April 10, 2003 - 12:13:40 (#6814)
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Yeah, I want one too. I suggest that you let YellowTab know. They're asking people to help choose "Which new/unsupported Hardware should be supported in Zeta".
http://www.yellowtab.com/article.php?id=28
Prog.
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| BeOS: Still my main mission-critial OS despite a few drawbacks |
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By Daren Scot Wilson - Posted on April 10, 2003 - 04:21:05 (#6807)
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Sometimes it seems that the excitement about BeOS is fading, but there are many BeOS users relying on BeOS for everyday work. I just finished some web sites, a booklet for an art show, and all kinds of research on the web, debugging some Java code for a high energy physics experiment (no AWT/Swing involved), etc etc. I find only a very few things I can't do, yet they all have workarounds. I can't burn CDs but that's due to this computer's CD drive, and I can't get pictures from my USB digital camera, which acts as a mass storage device. I have a minimal linux installation on a small partition just for unloading the camera. Rarely, I send files to a windows machine for printing - I don't do much color printing, but I do know that color printers compatible with BeOS exist. Someday I'll buy one, but it's low priority for now. The only one of these drawbacks that affects my everyday work is the lack of a current, reliable USB mass storage device driver. If my life were less hectic, I'd write one myself. (Anyone who can help me de-hect my life will be my hero! ;-)
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| BeOS Update Package: file details! |
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By Daren Scot Wilson - Posted on April 10, 2003 - 04:11:12 (#6806)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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When I installed the 5.0.3 upgrade package, it wrote a log file listing every updated file, its size and MIME type. Where shall I put it for every one to see? http://home.pipeline.com/~darenw/beos.html and look near the bottom of the page. (I wonder how many of my links are obsolete?) Unfortunately, there's no 5.0.1 log file on my machine, but no doubt someone out there has it.
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| What's wrong? |
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By pablohide - Posted on April 8, 2003 - 16:28:37 (#6778)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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I download the BeOS5PEMaxEditionV21.zip and I make a bootable CD for P4.
The CD Boot correctly, I can view the logo and the icons.. but after 15 or 20 seconds, the screen come black and the CD continue running for 10 seconds more and then stop and nothing happens. I try to boot in safe mode and the same...
I have an Celeron 366Mhz with 256MB Ram.
Please Help ME!
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| 5.0.1 & 5.0.3 updates ? |
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By kepla - Posted on April 8, 2003 - 16:22:35 (#6777)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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Could anybody give me the whereabouts of some details of the contents of the above two updates to BeOS 5, please ? I'd very much like to know how I can expect them to alter my system before installing them. Also, what happened to 5.0.2 ?
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| Blood, sweat, tears and a VIA chipset. |
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By kepla - Posted on April 8, 2003 - 16:14:27 (#6776)
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I've just been through two weeks of 'toil and trouble' trying to get BeOS 5 running on my 1.4 GHz Athlon. After a VERY long story, involving kernel panics (and user panics) and much fruitless patching, eventually the problem turned outto be thus:
My machine was built using a Gigabyte GA-7IXEH motherboard which uses a VIA chipset. Eventually, after ALL else had failed, I replaced this with a GA-7IXE4 which has an AMD chipset and BeOS worked. I got plenty of suggestions about recucing the 768 Mb memory in my machine, or swapping the Matrox graphics card for somethng crap. Even replaacement IDE driver was tried. The motherboard swap was done, not in anticipation of success, but to prove that absolutely NOTHING would make BeOS work on this machine. Literally EVERYTHING else had been swapped and had new drivers installed. Okay, everything is not perfect just yet - the Matrox driver seems quite 'experimental' and I've heard nothing from the SB Audigy, but what I've seen so far shows massive promise. Everything is so sensible and straightforward, totally unlike my first experiences with Windoze over a decade ago. What is desp[erately needed is a decent manual which will decode the various error messages BeOS can come out with - this would have shortened the time this excercise took to around a day, I'm sure. Lots of things left to configure, software to load, settings to set and a PC-less family to placate, but at least the basics are working now. Just thought people deserved to know: BeOS + VIA = trouble.
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| will not work?? |
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By tiffer17 - Posted on March 28, 2003 - 05:40:06 (#6634)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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i install BeOS personal edition on my windows xp computer. i made the boot floppy and everything..but when i try to boot it gives me a screen that says "BeOS personal edition" and has the Be logo, but after about 30 seconds that goes away and all i have is a command prompt type thing, and if i press any keys it just starts beeping. can anyone help?
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| Time for ANOTHER newbie question lol |
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By Jotu - Posted on February 18, 2003 - 18:46:54 (#5981)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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I installed the patch to make BeOS work with my NIC (D-Link DFE-530TX+) but now under network settings it sees some kind of Realtek card and I cant access the internet. I cant find a way to install a new device either? Should i just do the old "Take the card out reboot put it in reboot" and see if it recognises it?
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| Re: Increasing PE Space |
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By tb100 - Posted on February 18, 2003 - 09:49:19 (#5974)
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The link you refer to is this: http://www.betips.net/chunga.php?ID=510 - it was working this morning.
If you've got a spare HD/partition lying around, the easiest way is to install PE to that. The installer application will simply copy your image to the partition.
I'm using a 1gig image, but had to use a strange combination of techniques to get it working, and my method only worked because I had 2 FAT32 partitions. If you're interestred, my method is here: http://forums.begroovy.com/showthread.php?s=9ab1c909db00ff41d7193f2e6b37dabe&threadid=3757
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| Ok then |
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By Jotu - Posted on February 18, 2003 - 07:40:32 (#5973)
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Heh ok now that I have BeOS up and running I;m running out of space fast on the Personal Edition image! Anyone know a program to make a new image or how to expand the ccurrent one? I saw a link to on at betips.net or something like that but the site was down :/
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| Almost forgot |
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By Jotu - Posted on February 16, 2003 - 10:55:09 (#5948)
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I'm using an ASUS V8170 MAGIC (GeForce 4 MX) for my GFX
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| Little progress |
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By Jotu - Posted on February 16, 2003 - 10:50:52 (#5947)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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Ok I made a new CD with a few new changes..I now get a graphic with the BeOS logo and there is a blinking square in the upper left-hand corner of the screen then everything powers down and my system reboots...Am I just going to have to get a floppy drive or something?
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| Loading.... |
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By Jotu - Posted on February 16, 2003 - 10:42:14 (#5946)
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I used nero to make a bootable CD of floppy.img but when it loads all it says is
BeOS Boot Loader
Loading something....(i forget what :-p)
Loading..
then it just seems to sit there
Here are my system specs.
AMD Athalon 1.06 GhZ
128 MB Ram
40GB FAT32 HDD
Running Windows XP Professional w/ SP1
If anyone knows another way to write the CD or knows whats wrong please email me at jotu@jotusjunk.com or post it here :-p
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By Jess - Posted on December 29, 2002 - 23:06:26 (#5039)
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hah hit send before I looked it over. I have so many typos & wrong wordings I myself am starting to wonder if English is my first language... heh
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| not that hard just take a.... |
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By Jess - Posted on December 29, 2002 - 23:01:59 (#5038)
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ok it's not that hard just take a deep breath& go slow. No rush, so if Be see's the drives as "no name" then if you do anythign in bash thats what you type. Or rename them in Be. You say your drives where named "disk1_vol1, disk1_vol2" so your ok. If have have specific stages in the process you don't understand you can get ahold of me & I can try to walk you through them. I use my normal name on BeShare but I'm not there much now a days. but you can add me via aim as I use jabber d34thsh3d is my name other then that you can email me at jet@beosjournal.org - I did that guide for a few resons but for all the people that read it & go man that's WAY too complicated when cuold do a SUPER simple install cd. Sure ya could, but when if you hand it out? Wouldn't it be nice to show buddies & any one curious how 1337 Be is? People that have dealt with linux & Windows for years try out my Be installs & step back with a "holy crap" look on their faces. They can't figure out why it's so easy & well organized. The added software has a description of what it is & the install fly's by with no stupid prompts nags serials or crashes. Every one learns differant & so maybe if I walk you through this your perspective on problem areas in the guide can be added & improve it's ease of use to more people so any one willing to put in the time acn make a install cd worthy of artistic notation. ;) Life is poetry, that's why we groan so much! MUH HAHAHAHAH
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| Making a cd |
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By sword_king - Posted on December 29, 2002 - 05:22:19 (#5027)
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Jess, I just read your instructions for the first time, and found them almost impossible to understand. I'm a real newbie when it comes to burning, bash, BeOS and other things. But it seems to make sense if you're going to use a fat 32 partition, go into Explorer, rt. click on the drive icon, choose properties, and rename the sucker without spaces. My Disk manager named mine "disk1_vol1, disk1_vol2" etc., without spaces. I saw that BeOS calls them all "no name", with a space, and went in and named the new partitions on my 2nd computer so I don't have to deal with that.
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| Here ya go - install cd |
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By Jess - Posted on December 28, 2002 - 19:15:20 (#5019)
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First off don't add a 3rd session for drivers etc use my method & build a cd just like BeOS Pro factory disc's. It may seem long winded but it's the best way to make an instal cd. http://wiki.bebits.com/page/BeOSInstallCD
the bootable floppy boots any BeOS disk virtual or other wise that cant be booted on it's own due to drivers or what have you. The stock boot floppy with PE is about useless on a new machine as you need to have the IDE replacement drivers so ALLways use the IDE replacement floppy image for your cd's boot sector & make sure you have the drivers installed as system drivers as well. read my guide, some say it's too much & yes there are many quick & dirty methods but think of it this way. Make a bad ass install as my guide walks you through & then when you have a buddy interested in Be you can whip out this phat install cd for him (Just copy yours with a slick ass install routine as my guide shows you ho to make) Also keep your disk up to date by useing an rw & update the extra software often so if you make a cd for a buddy & say a new beshare comes out just update your cd & copy it quick for him. Even on normal cdr all you have to do is make a new blank iso file - mount it copy your old cd's contents into it & add the updated software into your allready created structure. ;) party on
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By aphex - Posted on December 28, 2002 - 16:22:20 (#5018)
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Now, I wonder if the following would work:
1) download BeOS PE 5 for Linux to get the hd and floppy images
2) burn the floppy image to disc for booting
3) write the beos image to the same cd
4) do a third write to the cd, making a session holding exstra files like video-driver, 5.0.1/5.0.3 update files, dev tools, BeShare, etc.
> That should work just fine!
And one more question; what exactly does the bootable floppy do? Does it have any tools for installation or is it solely intended for booting a virtual file system? Would it be more feasible to put the hd image together with the additional files on the disc and boot from the virtual partition in that file on the cd (combining step 3 and 4 above)?
Tnx
> The bootfloppy boots the system, either from a
> virtual file or a partition. It has no tools for
> installation.
> I dont know if your other option is more feasible,
> that's up to you ;)
/aphex
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| Making an installation cd |
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By BoGoMiPz - Posted on December 7, 2002 - 23:57:39 (#4645)
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Hi,
I'd like to try BeOS on my home computer. To do that I need to make a bootable install-cd (I don't have a floppy drive). I prefer installing on a real partition. Oh, and I need to make the cd at school in winNT, so I can't fool around in the virtual file system before writing it to disc. Now, I wonder if the following would work:
1) download BeOS PE 5 for Linux to get the hd and floppy images
2) burn the floppy image to disc for booting
3) write the beos image to the same cd
4) do a third write to the cd, making a session holding exstra files like video-driver, 5.0.1/5.0.3 update files, dev tools, BeShare, etc.
And one more question; what exactly does the bootable floppy do? Does it have any tools for installation or is it solely intended for booting a virtual file system? Would it be more feasible to put the hd image together with the additional files on the disc and boot from the virtual partition in that file on the cd (combining step 3 and 4 above)?
Tnx
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| Grub |
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By doh - Posted on December 7, 2002 - 02:07:46 (#4637)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.9 |
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Howdy
Grub can be used, however I doubt that it will boot from a Beos PE image file. You'd most likely have to create a primary partition for Beos to reside on.
Some handy help for Grub users is here : http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4622
Cheers
-Ben
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By David McCabe - Posted on December 6, 2002 - 18:33:12 (#4634)
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Thank you for this information. However, I am not using LiLo. I am using Grub. Furthermore, I would rather not change my partitions, if it can be avoided. Were it otherwise, this would be moot. Can it be avoided?
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