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By s_d - Posted on June 12, 2002 - 03:00:35 (#1780)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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I'm wondering why people don't to read what is already on this bebits page.
I expected that those explanations are sufficient.
But seems than some people can only write, not read :)
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| Real good, but SSL problems with netserver crash fix |
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By tb100 - Posted on June 11, 2002 - 21:19:24 (#1777)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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Mozilla on BeOS is certainly becoming a usable option now! It's my main Be browser, and has made huge strides even since 0.97.
The crashfix did work, and Mozilla didnt crash once, however with the replacement library it wouldnt connect to any secure servers (eg hotmail login wouldn't work). I replaced the library with the backup and SSL works again (but it does crash a bit).
Any chance of a new replacement library without this problem (stripzilla maybe smaller than the full version, but 14MB is still a lot for us 56kers).
Also, CPU usage is always 100% when loading a page??? (not on moz in windows) - been like that as long as I can remember on Be though.
Apart from that, great work! - and in answer to previous post stripzilla is smaller download (no mail and news browser for example), and often includes additional fixes that aren't yet in the "official" bezilla browsers - eg drag to select text now works in Stripzilla!
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| Stripzilla vs. Bezilla? |
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By Ruprect - Posted on June 11, 2002 - 19:31:27 (#1775)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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I can't keep up. What's the difference between Stripzilla and Bezilla?
Thanks!
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| This net_server fix is _temporary_ |
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By BryanV - Posted on June 11, 2002 - 16:04:56 (#1774)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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I think it deserves to be said that the 'fixed' library for net_server is a very temporary fix.
The connection error (which crashes mozilla) is net_server specific, and we've isolated the code.
This temporary fix merely increases the number of connections that will open successfully before it crashes. This used to be between 65~80 connections. It will now be over 1024.
To let you know where we're at with this now, we have submitted a _full_ fix for this for review, which dosen't just increase the number. In preliminary testing, I've personally had over 4000+ connections and have not managed to crash it yet. Believe me, I've been trying.
We are working on this. It will be fixed. We're hoping the fix we've submitted will get commited to the main tree, so that regular Mozilla (which suffers the same problem) will benefit as well.
Thanks to all the users who sent stack crawls on BeShare and helped us find this one!!
-Bryan
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| What about a BeBox |
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By Intelinside - Posted on June 10, 2002 - 20:39:27 (#1761)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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Mac OS Runtime enviroments are great but there are none to be found on a BeBox, a PPC version would be better
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| PPC owners, did you try SheepShaver? |
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By s_d - Posted on June 10, 2002 - 19:39:00 (#1759)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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Maybe it can work with Mac Mozilla for OS8 if there is such version?
http://bebits.com/app/2103
" SheepShaver is a MacOS run-time environment for BeOS that allows you to run MacOS applications at native speed inside the BeOS multitasking environment on PowerPC-based BeOS systems.
SheepShaver is neither a MacOS replacement nor an emulator. It runs (and requires) an unmodified PowerPC MacOS 7.x/8.x under control of the BeOS at full speed without any kind of emulation. BeOS and MacOS applications can run at the same time and data can be exchanged between them. "
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| I must agree ... |
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By ade - Posted on June 10, 2002 - 13:36:44 (#1755)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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that BeZilla works really great, and after DSL is working with BeSavage Driver, its fun now to use the BeOS.
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| crashfix actually works! |
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By unlyrn. - Posted on June 10, 2002 - 09:45:11 (#1752)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.* for netserver |
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just got the net_server crashfix, it survived my "this should really make it crash" test, which no previous version has done.... great work!
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| Outstanding work |
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By errno - Posted on June 10, 2002 - 00:16:20 (#1740)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 for Netserver |
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Mozilla for BeOS has been improved beyond belief, excellent work from all who have contributed to the BeOS port. Mozilla is running exceptionally well for me.
Excellent
Caz
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| forms don't show up with input fields |
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By ablyss - Posted on June 8, 2002 - 19:49:30 (#1729)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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forms don't show up with input fields
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| i'm glad this computer's huge... |
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By le_tigre - Posted on June 4, 2002 - 05:45:13 (#1675)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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because i dunno if my other bePC could handle the old mozilla bloat. still this crashes rarely on my beefier machine, it renders pages nicely and my only real gripe is the weird input_server (?) behavior - urls and username/password fields sometimes don't respond to keyboard actions. the "fix" for this is pretyt straightforward; i just right-click in one of the fields and everything's back to normal for the remainder of the session. i'm so happy to have a real browser for beos. it even works with the GCC flashplayer.
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| Download Manager |
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By fujifufu - Posted on May 29, 2002 - 02:56:21 (#1604)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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Sweetness. But is there any way to make it the default for downloads instead of having the single download windows?
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| download manager |
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By s_d - Posted on May 29, 2002 - 02:32:17 (#1603)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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to fujifufu
try Menu->Tools->Download Manager
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| What happened to the download manager |
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By fujifufu - Posted on May 29, 2002 - 02:24:48 (#1602)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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Right around RC1 or the build before that, for BONE, there was a download manager instead of the single download window. I was wondering what ever happened to it. And if it's still in the builds, how do you turn it on.
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| Thanks, Prognatus |
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By s_d - Posted on May 29, 2002 - 01:20:43 (#1601)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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I really don't understand this kind of bitching, blameing, senseless flooding and flame-ing. I suspect that i noticed even this flamer even on BeShare. Maybe too hot temperament, but problem is that such kind of comments don't impress anyone to do anything for good of BeOS(world).If not to say more. In world of freeware such attitude can create ideosyncrazy and allergy to any coding. Even if such persons think that they are big BeOS zealots and advocates.
And you are absolutely right about fact that project needs (coders') help rather than filling BeBits space with weird words :)
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| Mozilla is years ahead of Net+, if it crashes too much, I see only two options: |
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By Prognathous - Posted on May 28, 2002 - 22:49:35 (#1597)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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1. Join the project and help! report bugs; QA it; roll up your sleeves and start coding (if you can...)
-or-
2. Try a different build. StripZilla exists partly in order to provide a more stable browser for those who use BONE. if that is your case, go ahead and test it.
But most importantly, stop bitchin! if you don't have anything constructive to say, keep it to yourself.
Yelling "Total crap" won't do you or the community any good.
Prog.
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| Still pretty much well useless... |
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By Jess - Posted on May 28, 2002 - 16:27:51 (#1593)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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heh Ironically I had to use mozilla right after I posted my last comment. This brings me to this post... Mozilla imo is useless. I'm sure with time it will become our best browser but for now it's still "Total crap" Yes it can get you to a few sites more than Net+ & if you have our flash player then that brings even more content to you... if it doesn't crash the second the page loads. By the time you get where you were going it crashes. So in realty it can't show you anymore then Net+ can.
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| IgRussell |
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By Jess - Posted on May 28, 2002 - 16:18:23 (#1592)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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you want Mozilla to run as fast as Net+?! god luck Dual athlons are your only hope. as for ram BeOS cannot use more than 768mb of ram - up to that your fine I run with 768mb in my main BeBox & 256 in all other boxes. After you cross 256mb of ram it's my recomendation you disable your swap file. Your most likly wasting Disk space. BeOS can run with out a Swap & just fine at that. I dont use a swap on any of my systems & can have ST000Pid amounts of stuff going on with no probs or lag. Mozilla will be slow & crash alot on about any system you use it on unless you are lucky enough to go dual cpu's over 1.5g.
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| runs fine... |
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By ljr - Posted on May 28, 2002 - 15:50:57 (#1591)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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with 2x AMD K7 1.333 + 256Mo DDR (mobo: tyan tigerMP)... loads in less than 2secs (n+ is very fast also ;-))
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| Config. for stripzilla |
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By Ram - Posted on May 28, 2002 - 14:46:48 (#1590)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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I think a Dual AMD XP (MP) 2100+, 512 MB RAM should be fine for making stripzilla fine :)
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| Question for BeOS gurus (it´s simple) |
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By IgRussell - Posted on May 28, 2002 - 14:13:09 (#1589)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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I am looking forward to installing stripzilla, and I am to upgrade some computers too. The question is: what configuration would be the ***IDEAL*** one for using Stripzilla at great speed, just like Netpositive or Opera?. I am a bit frightened because of the betips.net trick about "a fix of too much RAM", that´s why I choose asking before adding RAM and RAM and find greater problems. So what would you say?.
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| Stripzilla build 020519 and SMP : sounds good |
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By ljr - Posted on May 23, 2002 - 11:34:29 (#1524)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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I could used stripzilla for 2 hours without any crash in SMP mode !!! this never happened before.
Good job !!!
Also, i got the bookmark problem described before (this runs up to build ~020515 so it's a new bug)
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| Bookmarks problem |
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By Iocan - Posted on May 23, 2002 - 00:41:18 (#1511)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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RC2/netserver (under BeOS 5.03 Pro) doesn't recognice properly Netpositive bookmarks. They appear as:
file:///boot/home/config/settings/NetPositive/Bookmarks/....(etc...)
so you don't go to any webpage
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| Thanks |
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By Jess - Posted on May 22, 2002 - 18:46:04 (#1508)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC2 forced-focus (for netserver) |
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Thanks... only cuts out a few MB but still nice to have.
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| Net_server version gone? |
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By Jess - Posted on May 22, 2002 - 06:28:28 (#1501)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC1 fixfocus test |
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is the net_server version totaly gone? I was hoping for the smaller stripped version as opposed to the full bloat crashmaster flash on mozilla.org.
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| further info on PPC issues and Bezilla |
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By mainlymac - Posted on May 17, 2002 - 05:52:09 (#1454)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC1 fixfocus test |
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hello peeps. i just wanted to share some info i've recently gathered. for those of you further interested in the precise issues and mechanics behind building a PPC Bezilla, i invite you to check out this thread:
http://www.freelists.org/archives/openbeos/02-2002/msg00230.html
this is a discussion between various programming heavies in the OBOS/BeOS world, and shed a lot of light on exactly what issues exist for the future of PPC.
in a nutshell, MWCC create proprietary code which Apple owns the rights to, there are two core code crunching tools that no one has ever ported over to PPC: libIDL and glib, and there's the big/little endian element to contend with.
what does this mean? if and when a new BeOS variant is created for PPC (whatever it ends up being called), then PPC Bezilla will come after, not before.
i stand humbled before you :(
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| New netserver version works very well... |
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By Iocan - Posted on May 5, 2002 - 15:35:03 (#1304)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC1 fixfocus test |
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... in my BeOS Pro 5.03. Thank you very much! (And from Preferences->Themes you can download a theme called Pinball that makes Mozilla to look more like a "BeOS application"... try it!)
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| Mozilla PPC |
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By Intelinside - Posted on May 5, 2002 - 02:47:38 (#1301)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC1 fixfocus test |
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I really want Mozilla for PPC as well,
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| Thanks for the net_server version! AND: a PPC version is desired here, too |
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By Jace - Posted on May 4, 2002 - 16:27:28 (#1294)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC1 fixfocus test |
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Thank you for the net_server version. I'm eager to update my .98 Stripzilla and see if things get better (the browser works, but is so slow!!).
Also, I really agree that someone somewhere should work out the issues with getting 'Zilla compiled for PPC. I have two PPC machines with BeOS and no modern browser to go with it :(
Cheers
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| RE: the new bezilla works very bad ! |
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By rain - Posted on May 4, 2002 - 14:52:20 (#1291)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0RC1 fixfocus test |
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uhm. spacebar has been the standard key for page-down in practically every browser for a very long time
anyway, seems like they have changed the theme specs once again. Therefore I will not release my Net+ theme until the 1.0 release. I'm tired of having to change it all the time.
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| Problems with latest version |
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By impact - Posted on May 3, 2002 - 22:38:43 (#1283)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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I have been having a lot of problems with the latest version of StripZilla, with entering text.
Both with selecting text on web pages (something that worked perfectly with the last build) and sometimes entering text in the url field (I have been experiencing the same problem before, but never immediately after mozilla started).
Is there any solution to these problems?
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| the new bezilla works very bad ! |
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By wurz - Posted on May 3, 2002 - 18:03:37 (#1278)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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so will work linux better, please take care on beos !
After i tryed editing pref.js:
Themes do not work (no character can typed)
space make a pagedown.
too freaky guys.
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| Ok - so chances are it's not going to happen |
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By BryanV - Posted on May 3, 2002 - 13:24:09 (#1275)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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I apologize for sounding so nay-sayish on the PPC issue. I too have a PowerMac that runs BeOS R5. (At least it did until I put OS 9 on it.)
It's not that it isn't possible, but it's not likely.
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| not really acceptable re: PPC |
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By mainlymac - Posted on May 3, 2002 - 09:39:38 (#1272)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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hey. i know the reply about 'not going to happen' is based on practical, realistic information, but telling the PPC crew among BeOS users this is tantamount to telling them PPC is going to be neglected to the point of starvation in the Brave New OBOS World. that's not what they/we want to hear. PPC users need a real browser, and Mozilla is the best hope of this happening. there's no Opera option for PPC, and the world is not getting any less Internet-worked as time goes on. code can be tweaked. the question is one of finding someone that can do it to resolve this MacOS vs. BeOS MWCC problem. my 2 cents, and thanks for reading.
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| Net_server build in progress... |
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By BryanV - Posted on May 3, 2002 - 02:38:30 (#1267)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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I have StripZilla 1.0rc1 for net_server working on my machine here. Once I get a clean build with optimization on, I'll have Sergei post it here.
Sorry it's not done today, I'm too busy right now to rebuild and upload it. Expect it sometime before the end of the weekend.
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| PPC Port - Not going to happen. |
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By BryanV - Posted on May 3, 2002 - 02:35:19 (#1266)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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The PPC port as was requested below is most likely a pipe-dream.
Here's the problem as I rembmer it. Get on BeShare and ask NathanW for a more correct explanation.
The Mozilla build system detects the system compilier as MWCC, and instantly thinks it's building for a MacOS PPC machine. It pays no attention to the fact that the OS environment variable is set to BeOS. It starts looking for MacOS macros, includes, ... Well, those of you who know a thing or two about programming just know this is _not_ going to work.
Sorry to bear the bad news.
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| It works... sorta... |
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By rcrodgers - Posted on April 29, 2002 - 18:08:22 (#1215)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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The most recent version/fix works, for the most part, but there are still some problems. For instance, in order for the text to be entered when entering an .htaccess controled secure area or if the news server requests a password, you have to hold down the left mouse button while typing. Otherwise, the focus will not change, and typing is irrelevant.
Also, can someone do something about the damned password manager? It doesn't seem to work with the newsgroup side of things, so I often have to re-enter my password even though I've entered it dozens of times and told Mozilla/BeZilla to use the password manager. (This part isn't BeZilla specific, but maybe someone here will kindly fix it.)
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| Bone rulez! |
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By Paul Galashin - Posted on April 26, 2002 - 09:00:06 (#1148)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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It Best! It Rulez! No more net_server version!
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| net_server builds please |
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By Jace - Posted on April 26, 2002 - 01:39:02 (#1141)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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"Me too"
I don't use Bone or Dano. Please more stripped builds for net_server.
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| while i'm at it: comment on the PPC thing |
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By mainlymac - Posted on April 24, 2002 - 06:46:22 (#1120)
Current version when comment was posted: netserver 0.98 secure(PSM/SSL) 01/03/2002 |
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yo. nice to see the comments on the BONE v. net_server stuff. about the PPC comments: building anything on PPC is a much bigger chore than for x86, starting with the relative lack of free/open source compile tools. these tools are widely available for x86 and near non-existent for PPC. i've explored this in-depth, since i am (read the name above) mainly Mac! i've been thinking about going back to 4.5.2 on my 8600 and giving a Mozilla build a try, but i'm not sure if the developer tools are included for PPC, the infamous MWCC. those of you who don't know about it, check out the Geek Gadgets website, www.geekgadgets.org for recent ports of PPC compile tools. if someone else knows more about this stuff than i do (very likely), then *you* try a build :) thanks for straining your eyes...
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