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By s_d - Posted on September 29, 2005 - 18:13:07 (#17863)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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today or tomorrow (29-30 Sep 2005)
depends on when i reach KaiRO, mozilla.org SeaMonkey maintainer - in order to upload there two new builds i have at moment.
Unfortunately irc.mozilla.org is down for me atm
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| net_server version please? |
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By hey68you - Posted on September 29, 2005 - 08:35:41 (#17857)
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Will it be possible to build a net_server version anytime soon?
It would be greatly appreciated.
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By tqh - Posted on September 24, 2005 - 22:55:06 (#17805)
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/boot/home/config/settings/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/[weird folder]/bookmarks.html
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By bs0 - Posted on September 24, 2005 - 22:38:27 (#17804)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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in firefox, where it saves my bookmarks ? (before updating to newest version i wanna backup them), thanks.
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By CommdrSozo - Posted on September 23, 2005 - 23:05:25 (#17799)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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Currently, only the Firefox/BONE build has the current build's "built on" date listed (and it's embedded in the version number and not that easy to find). Since there are four different products on this one page, is there any way that future releases would include the build date of the current release in the information section for the different programs? Since the BeBits page only shows that the page has ben updated, having build dates would help to show which of the four programs was actually updated. Thanks
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| re: s_d |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on September 22, 2005 - 08:29:27 (#17791)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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net_server with DHCP broadband. btw- Firefox-bin won't end process. (this is the newest one for net_server)
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| 2 BeOS Mr X |
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By s_d - Posted on September 22, 2005 - 03:05:56 (#17790)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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Which kind of internet connection you use?
If this is PPPoE of some kind (e.g. various types of DSL), it may be related to MTU size parameter in BeOS net stack.
And it may be corrected via start-script
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| Cant' install stuff needed for ML net |
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By edmundf - Posted on September 22, 2005 - 01:44:19 (#17788)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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Cant' install stuff needed for ML net.
What can I do to use ML net?
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| mozilla reloaded |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on September 22, 2005 - 01:19:04 (#17787)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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Still the same problem as always- when I go to compose message, hit send, the compose message window stays on and DOES NOT quit. I have been putting up with this ever since I started to use BeOS and it is very dissapointing as this is not fixed yet.
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| That netserver build is ancient |
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By tqh - Posted on September 21, 2005 - 08:34:51 (#17781)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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I'll see if I can get someone to take care of putting up newer builds.
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| same problem as #17291 |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on September 21, 2005 - 06:57:06 (#17780)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6a1+ - 20050908 |
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Exactly same symptoms, I tried doing what the html readme that came with netserver FF and on the bebits website. Program cannot be killed. It just doesnt.
Someone help- I need this fixed for QuickFox net_server.
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| Help: Can't open Mail or Calendar or Composer anymore |
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By hey68you - Posted on August 28, 2005 - 11:27:41 (#17561)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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Using the net_server latest:
version 1.7a-26 transparency + noreshed
I changed "preferences -> Appearance -> when Mozilla starts up open" to any/all of the options with Navigator checked, now mail or calendar or composer will not open.
Any ideas (beyond re-installing).
Thanks
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By Tyro65 - Posted on August 9, 2005 - 16:57:26 (#17453)
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Will we soon see a version of this new Mozilla build?
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| Sorry, but |
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By tqh - Posted on August 1, 2005 - 11:00:23 (#17365)
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As these are development releases (in fact bleeding edge), they have issues. The copy and paste issue, is one of the code-changes I've done and I'm looking into it, it fails in conversion from UTF-8 to UTF-16 (Mozilla). Unfortunatly it's hard for me to do both development (with builds that need testing) and builds I consider release-quality at the same time. In fact right now the code in CVS is not good enough for doing releases, hence no such releases. I'm working on improving this, but my time is very limited.
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| horrible copy past issues, crashes frequently when filling forms |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 1, 2005 - 07:24:40 (#17363)
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Hey tqh I appreciate your work put in for the BeOS community on Firefox for BONE.
I have some serious gripes though that are just too anoying to ignore. All the time copy/paste does not function correctly. If I copy something from the address bar, paste it into a form I get "text/plain" output, no output, or it only works once in 20 pastes. This is very annoying. Another thing is that when I hit submit, enter information, log in, whenever I click on a button usually 1 in 20 chance firefox just crashes and I have to quit the application. This is sometimes fustrating as I have typed in alot.
Is there a quick patch for this or something? BTW it is fast to use and load (with the help of ramdisk and tweaked user.js settings).
However MOzilla for bone is really stable, not as fast to start and load but still pretty good. Hopefully you can reply soon!
Mr X
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By KTMFreak - Posted on July 22, 2005 - 12:49:40 (#17291)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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Hi,
I downloaded firefox/netserver but the app just doesn't start. The icon appears in the deskbar but nothing happens (need to kill the firefox-thread).
After installing the emptyprofile the Deskbar-icon appears for a second. I don't get any error-messages.
Any ideas?
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| Version explanation. |
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By s_d - Posted on May 20, 2005 - 11:54:20 (#16693)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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Changed a bit general description,
so those, who are able to read, not only write,
get less confused.
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| Oh and ff/netserver... |
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By tb100 - Posted on May 20, 2005 - 09:37:02 (#16692)
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Niels has made the most recent public builds of firefox for netserver, you can get at links from the bezilla blog:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/bezilla
http://www.livejournal.com/community/bezilla/89714.html is the most recent.
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By tb100 - Posted on May 20, 2005 - 09:33:10 (#16691)
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I'm not sure that anyone in the team works on mozilla for netserver. I know sergei like mozilla, but he uses BONE. Hence the mozilla netserver builds are quite old.
Firefox has more people working on it and building it, for both net_server and BONE, so those builds should be quite fresh. The ones with seemingly random numbers are dates - yyyymmdd usually.
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| clarification on versions |
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By mainlymac - Posted on May 20, 2005 - 06:22:09 (#16690)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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i'll try to offer my understanding of all the versions presented here. let's handles BONE vs. net_server first. BONE is a modified form of BSD networking. it's way more stable and flexible than net_server. net_server is what comes with all legal version of BeOS. BONE's legality is questionable and a matter of much dispute. it was never made available to the public and may be the intellectual property of a corporation i won't bother to name.
now we come to Firefox vs. Mozilla (browser) vs. Mozilla (complete).
Firefox is the future as far as the Mozilla Project is concerned. it is also the newest to appear on the BeOS scene and therefore less mature in some ways. it is a browser only.
Mozilla (browser) is a different take on a browser-only solution. the code for Mozilla has been worked over in the BeOS world for a much longer time and sometimes leads to a more stable application.
Mozilla (complete) is about the same as the above, but includes a mail client, an HTML composer and (in some builds) IRC and a calendaring module.
all of what i've said should be considered in light of what this project says at the top: "Bleeding Edge". essentially, that means you're dealing with the BeOS version of Mozilla's 'nightly builds'. sometimes the newest version of any given thing will be less stable or lack some features that an earlier one had. if you desperately need a slightly older version you believe worked a lot better, you can usually find it on BeShare.
the point is to try these out, and keep the older versions around in case you don't like the current experiment. i hope this helps clear things up a bit.
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| Puzzeled too |
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By kraton. - Posted on May 19, 2005 - 20:41:06 (#16687)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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Im puzzeled too.
Which one schould i download? Which one is the newest?
Which one is the stablest one? for netsserver. Why netserver?
I use BeOs 5.03
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| Puzzled by all these weird names and versions |
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By edmundf - Posted on May 17, 2005 - 13:24:24 (#16666)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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What Mozilla version is the best for my netserver BEOS.
The Bone stuff is out of the question as long as the printing problem
is not solved.
Here I see the netserver download is version 1.7a-26 ??
If I check the Help option and about in the version I am using now
I see 1.8a3, I have this version a long time
What is wrong here?.
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By tqh - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 10:34:40 (#16653)
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As I use an experimental window handling, that hasn't been synced with CVS in a while, this may have been fixed in the CVS-version. I remember some discussion about it, but not what the conclusion was.
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| Re: Options panel |
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By tb100 - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 10:11:34 (#16651)
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The options panel has an odd bug, where it comes up the size of the currently selected panel. I couldn't track it down last time I looked for it. The workaround is to switch to the panel you want to view, close the options window, and then reopen the window and you should be able to see the whole panel. The other option is to go to about:config and filter for animatefade and set the one result you get to true.
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| fix for options panels AND ugly fonts! |
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By mainlymac - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 07:36:40 (#16650)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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Yeah, well, resolving my own issues here, and perhaps yours as well :D
Just use the 'about:config' URL and change browser.display.screen_resolution from 96 to 72. I found out about this reading some posts over at the BeZilla LJ community. Now Firefox looks likes a bonafide BeOS app! At least the way it displays fonts...
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| Firefox/BONE: Options panels truncated, ugly fonts |
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By mainlymac - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 07:12:30 (#16649)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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This new May 2005 build is very snappy and much more stable, though the Feb. 2005 build had a much nicer icon and could be launched more like a standard Be app, i.e. the script thing wasn't needed.
The biggest issue for the present build is truncation of the Options panels. For instance, I can't look at or change my fonts because that area of the panel is below the visible lower edge of the dialog, and there's no way to resize the window.
Also, the overall interface font (other than the menus, which look very Be-Like) is pretty ugly - too small. How about Swis721_BT 10pt?
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By ljr - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 01:23:20 (#16646)
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The 1.1.0-d4 bone package contains the Firefox icons and mime set. Have a look in it ro retrieve what you want.
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| FireFox and Mozilla - Proper ICONS |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on May 15, 2005 - 18:38:21 (#16641)
Current version when comment was posted: version 1.0+/2005-05-14 |
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first off, thanks BeZilla team for the effort in releasing the new versions.
I would like to know WHERE I can get the 'proper' firefox and mozilla icons for BeOS, that I can use as symbolic links to the executeables. I dont think they have to look like text document icons. And then HOW, would I get these to work!? .
ps- Ive always had this problem with mozilla suite mail when I compose, then exit, a blank compose window always comes up after I exit my old one.
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| Use a newer version: How to install Themes? |
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By hey68you - Posted on May 9, 2005 - 14:06:37 (#16564)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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Do you know how to install new themes on this version:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/bezilla/89714.html
Thanks.
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| Use a newer version |
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By tb100 - Posted on May 8, 2005 - 11:13:12 (#16552)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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I wouldn't use 0.93 at all.
The best versions are ones listed on the bezilla blog:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/bezilla/89714.html
is the latest version released.
As for how to install it, just unzip it somewhere (/boot/apps/ for example) and double click "firefox" (it has a text file icon but it is in fact the launch script). You can right-mouse-button drag this to your desktop or somewhere and select "Create link here" to have an easier way to launch it.
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| How do I Install Firefox netserver - version 0.9.3? |
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By ricardorb6 - Posted on May 8, 2005 - 02:16:12 (#16549)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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Hi, BeOS is great, but i'm new at it, so can somebody help me how to install this browser, it doesn't have an script installation. please help me.
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| Re: libbind.so |
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By BiPolar - Posted on April 4, 2005 - 08:02:28 (#16290)
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For BeOS MAX Edition you have to download the "net_server" versions.
The one you have its for BeOS versions using the BONE network stack (Exp/Dano, Zeta, R5 + BONE).
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By jrincon87 - Posted on April 4, 2005 - 03:54:54 (#16288)
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I'm running on BeOS 5 PE Max Edition 3.1b1. When I try to run 'Firefox' from the unzipped folder, I get a message that says that there's a missing library called "libbind.so". Can somebody send it to me, or when can I download it?
Thanks.
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By matjako - Posted on March 2, 2005 - 11:20:37 (#16044)
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In the current build of Mozilla for netserver I can't change themes anymore. They can be installed and selected, but nothing happens - it has always the classic skin. I created an empty profile and everything but is still does not work.
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By Kevin_Field - Posted on March 2, 2005 - 01:47:44 (#16041)
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I had a working netserver Firefox, too, I should've brought it with me, but I figured I'd get the latest and greatest when I switched computers...
Tried the one at http://www.livejournal.com/community/bezilla/78687.html too, but it just complains that libxpcom_core.so is missing. :|
Kev
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| Embedding Gecko |
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By tqh - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 11:21:28 (#16003)
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There are plans to get Gecko embedding working and maybe even provide a lightweight browser. Before I focus my energy on that I want to find, fix and improve code on the BeOS-side of Mozilla. The easiest way to do that is through already working Mozilla-based apps. So I mostly focus on Firefox, however the qualtiy of the BeOS-code has improved so much recently that it will soon be more of a 'keep in sync' job than catching up. This will give us time to focus on more interesting things...
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| @MYOB & Pragmat |
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By tuishimi - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 03:03:13 (#16001)
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No sense in fighting over it. :) We are all grateful for the work done on Firefox and Mozilla for BeOS. Altho' I do have to disagree a bit w/MYOB... I use Camino, still, as my preferred browser even tho' I paid for OmniWeb 5.1, have firefox and of course safari... Camino still has the lightest, quickest and Mac OS X-ish feel to it (to me). I have very few problems with it, very few. But I don't think Pragmat was suggesting porting Camino so much as simply "copying" the look, feel and functionality.
Good night! :)
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By Pragmat - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 00:48:47 (#15998)
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You're (MYOB) certainly right about the commercial issue. I find peoples' unwillingness to pay for anything most disconcerting. Though we all like free, but I actually try to pay for everything Be that I can, just to keep the desirability of further activity up. I suspect that part of the problem on Be is that much of the base is too doubtful of the future to be secure in paying for anything. That and the kids, regardless the platform, don't seem to feel that a developer's time is worth anything, much less a couple Euros/bucks.
I could go on as this annoys me greatly, but,
as I'm sure you'd agree, I've run on enough for one thread on one day.
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| Dear MYOB |
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By Pragmat - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 00:34:08 (#15997)
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A: I wasn't saying to port Camino outright. There's no way that code would be sufficiently correlative to feed the logic of this. What I am suggesting is that its conceptual nature is more in keeping with Be, were there a fresh Net+ today it would likely be similar, and that it's future on Mac is by no means secure. This isn't because it is flawed so much as you suggest, give me a break. It's doomed for the same reason that there are ten times as many downloads here for Firefox than for the new "Bezilla". It has nothing to do with which is actually the better browser. This will certainly change, Firefox will be the much better option someday, but it is certainly true that it is not now. This was the real inspiration for leaving Talkback here on BeBits.
B: Certainly Camino's not perfect, though it was far & away the best OSX browser before Safari 1.2 and the Firefox' approaching the current releases. Even Opera seems to've found more of that groove. There's not much here to debate, though that would seem your bent. It remains the fast browser on a Mac, and yes, it does sometimes go down in flames, but up 'til then it was probably one heck of a heady ride. Certainly no Be browser out performs it for feature melded with raw speed, at least not yet, and when they do this will be the result of the continued efforts brought to Be whereas Camino, and not for lack of quality, will be moldering due to public incomprehension and indifference. Initially Camino was a product of some of the original Bezilla team, is it not? And certainly few of them have very much positive to say about there being any innate advantage to executing the Be/Mozilla marriage aside from it working at all on a platform needing such a thing. Given this, everybody, another three cheers for the current Mozilla/Firefox team!
C. There's no more to the Camino development team then there is to Bezilla here, so expecting a lot of feedback from them is not what I would suggest one to expect, marvelous though our Bezilla folks are about keeping communications open. That is the anomaly.
D. Sure Firefox works pretty well on OSX, now, but it is not Services aware, much less Cocoa anything. This is of course completely irrelevant under Be to be sure. And it is also worth noting that the Mac version of Ffx now, after years of being utterly pathetic & sub-useless, now seems to be more robust than the Windows version. Admittedly my W2K `fox is also more tricked-out than that I run on the Apples. And too, it's non-integration under X can, through this self-contained extensibility or restriction therein, can be a virtue should such independence be of utility. Still, Firefox is hardly at home on OSX and it would be nice to have a browser for Be that was really for Be. It's the old OS/2 problem. Something written native makes the best case for the OS. Porting applications without full integration does not make any such case, and this is the very case that needs to be made wherever possible if Be is to survive at all. OS/2 circa 2000 or so is still much better than anything from MS ever but no one will ever know this and there's really no way to illustrate it easily to the uninitiated.
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By MYOB - Posted on February 27, 2005 - 23:18:18 (#15995)
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Camino is terrible - absolutely terrible. The text controls lag to a speed where a stoned dyslexic monkey can type faster than they can keep up. QuickTime plugins display on all tabs, wheter the media is there or not. Bug reports go unnoticed, unheeded
Porting Camino would be insane. Writing a *new* Gecko engined browser for BeOS is much more probably
Nobody, and I mean nobody, will port a commercial browser to an OS where people won't pay for anything - just look at the uproar when someone tried to charge for a driver.
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