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| Mozilla vs. Firefox ...and why not instead a Camino variant in C++? |
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By Pragmat - Posted on February 27, 2005 - 23:15:11 (#15994)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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Far be it from me to deride Firefox. Not on your life! It's nice now and is sure to keep getting better & better, but the real prize here is Mozilla, and as the download load logs attest, it is being sorely overlooked, especially given its quality. This is not less true of all platform releases of these browsers. Yes, Firefox is neat but this doesn't change the fact that Mozilla is the better product for most users. Admittedly it's pretty big, then it does one heck of a lot. All said, we can't thank the developers enough for these efforts.
A nice tweak would be for these to have an option for a more Be/Net+ look akin to the theme & splash that were so popularly applied to the Bezilla classic. <http://www.bug.org.yu/bezilla/>
Were I to throw in another couple bits, Camino, the once preferred and now all too sadly overlooked OSX project, is much more Be in character, though the Cocoa code-base is completely alien. Were this entire project re-imagined to produce a variant of the former Chimera for BeOS rather than spreading itself accross all these other more generic options, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the real & true Be browser would result.
Beyond this I would suggest that yellowTab start talking to their neighbors and get iCab to work out a port of their Mac product as well. Sure, it's a little weak at the knees. It is often affected by Be adherents and assimilating treatments, and more importantly, as it is mostly floundering so in the new OS X world, they might have the time & wisdom to build a true NetPositive replacement. A light & fast alternate to the big Moz' builds.
All-in-all though I think Camino the far better model for the ultimate Be web browser. As a side bonus projects based on Camino & iCab would stand more than a snowball's chance in Hell of finding their way to PPC, the Be platform most desperately in need of some serious help.
These new Mozillas listed here are truely God-sends to the x86ers.
Probably no point in waiting for Opera8.
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| ah ok |
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By Jess - Posted on February 27, 2005 - 05:00:13 (#15983)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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Sound like fun man... heh thanks for the updates.
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| Outside links |
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By tqh - Posted on February 26, 2005 - 09:41:16 (#15974)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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Latest version does not have support for that. It needs to be reworked because Firefox has internal relaunching of itself which prevents the 'single launch'-flag to be used. Ain't that nice.
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| Link Death |
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By Jess - Posted on February 26, 2005 - 08:39:38 (#15973)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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I'm finding if I have FireFox open & say click a link from an outside app like Vision it chokes & dies with a half rendered window with the title "confirm close".
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| 2 Treckman - what is bone |
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By SD - Posted on February 25, 2005 - 19:35:01 (#15969)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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http://wiki.bebits.com/page/WhatIsBone
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| 2 SD |
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By trekman - Posted on February 25, 2005 - 17:03:18 (#15968)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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thanx for the help . the netserver vers. 1.7a from mozilla works .the firefox 0.93 netserver version not :( but it will do great so ;-) btw . what is the difference between "bone" and "netserver" . What means "bone" anyway ?I have here installed firefox 0.80 which came with the BeOS max version . Does work actually , but a 1.0 would be better I think . Hope someone does the thing soon .....best regards ...trekman
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| 2 trekman |
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By SD - Posted on February 25, 2005 - 01:21:20 (#15962)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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This Firefox is for bone-version of BeOS.
BeOS MAX is netserver-BeOS.
Wait until someone compiles Firefox for netserver.
Same for Mozilla - be sure you got netserver version, unpack it, open Terminal in folder where you unpacket it to and type there
mozilla and push <ENTER>
This configures/installs Mozilla.
Now you can make symlink from mozilla "text"(actually script) file to Desktop, for example, and then next times run it by clicking on that symlink.
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| firefox 1.0 |
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By trekman - Posted on February 24, 2005 - 23:47:43 (#15961)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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It says : could not open Firefox (Missing Library :libbind.so) :(:(:(:(:(
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| firefox - mozilla |
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By trekman - Posted on February 24, 2005 - 23:36:25 (#15960)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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I would love it , but I dont get it started . the Firefox 1.0+ build doesnt find a lib. and the mozilla does nothing . I would like there a clear description of installin the soft. cant be that difficult. I use BeOS Max on my Acer Laptop ...:)
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| mozilla - silent update |
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By SD - Posted on February 24, 2005 - 16:21:28 (#15954)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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published No 26 in attempt to fix fonts for NathanW
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| 2 Tek_No |
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By SD - Posted on February 22, 2005 - 00:56:12 (#15928)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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there is one previously hidden bug appeared which we aware about.
Some font sizes (BeOS system font sizes) are one point smaller than those should be due rounding error.
Hope we will fix it soon, if this is the reason
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| Works fine but... |
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By Tek_No - Posted on February 21, 2005 - 23:28:18 (#15926)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+/20050221 |
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One small thing is currently bothering me: when using the SaferFox theme (see http://www.mankin-studio.com/downloads.html) in combination with the "Compact Menu" extension (to get a more Safari look browser) the icons of the "Back", "Forward", "Reload Current Page" etc... are not aligned anymore...
Seems to be a "font" based thing as this was working fine in the previous experimental build of FireFox.
I'm not expecting that anyone is going to fix this but I'm just mentioning this so maybe possible other users of the SaferFox theme are aware of this :)
Take care,
Tek_No
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| 2 mmlr - Menufont |
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By SD - Posted on February 14, 2005 - 12:44:51 (#15851)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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1)This time i made it (i hope) exactly same size as overall BeOS menu font size). Previously in my mozilla builds it was 1 pint smaller (due rounding error)
2)subscript. Ehh. Reading BeBook i met mention that BeOS draws strings one bit above given coordinate, to be compatible with R4 bug. So this time i move strings drawing one bit down (y+1)
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| Relative Symbolic Links |
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By mmlr - Posted on February 14, 2005 - 11:56:20 (#15850)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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Just for the record, to create relative links from Tracker, you have to shift-right-click. Then the "Create Link" item will change to "Create Relative Link". This way it will work. Of course the "ln -s" method does the same thing.
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| the lib folder |
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By tqh - Posted on February 14, 2005 - 11:32:18 (#15849)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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The reason it only worked in Desktop is that where I had it when I made the symbolic link from components with Tracker. Little did I know that Tracker made an absolute path /boot/home/Desktop/components instead of components/ so if you happened to download it just after I put it on BeBits you got the one with an absolute path.
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| Really snappy |
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By mmlr - Posted on February 14, 2005 - 09:40:13 (#15846)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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Good work, the new Mozilla BONE and FireFox really feel a lot more snappy than before.
Some things that I noticed:
- At first I unpacked the FireFox zip to the Desktop and ran it to see if it worked (previous version did't start). This version did and I tested it a bit. The strange thing was, as soon as I moved it from the Desktop to the place where the previous installation was (deleted the previous folder first of course) it didn't start anymore. I moved it back to the Desktop and it worked again. Deleting the lib folder and making a new one with "ln -s components lib" as suggested below made it work in the location I wanted - strange...
- Mozilla is snappier than before, but it seems to me that the font's are a bit messed up. Especially the menu font's are larger and touch the trigger line (the underline under the F of File for example), which is a bit ugly in my opinion. Not a big deal, it's certainly a thing of getting used to.
Thanks for the new builds, now a net_server version with that snappyness would be great.
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| profile yet again the culprate |
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By Jess - Posted on February 13, 2005 - 19:18:19 (#15841)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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Ya I renamed my profile folder & tried it & it started up.
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| Re: Wont run |
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By tqh - Posted on February 13, 2005 - 10:32:38 (#15836)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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Things to try:
Remove any old Firefox or firefox-bin entries in FileTypes, restart and try again.
Also some have reported that removing their profile has helped them in a few cases. I have no idea why, might be because extentions that won't work with latest version.
(For a few minutes the build was borked, you can check this if the lib-folder in MozillaFirefox points to components. If it's broken remove the lib-link and do ln -s components lib in that dir).
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| Won't run |
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By Jess - Posted on February 13, 2005 - 06:00:53 (#15835)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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I'm trying the new Firefox BONE build, I tried starting from terminal but it says nothing & exits clean immediatly after launch.
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| RE: Bookmarks toolbar |
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By Ram - Posted on February 13, 2005 - 04:07:31 (#15833)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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I've deleted all bookmarks in the Toolbar but after this I was not able to add any bookmarks to this folder using any means.
I then resorted to manually editing the Bookmarks.html file in the settings.
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| tab browsing |
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By AlienSoldier - Posted on February 13, 2005 - 03:22:37 (#15832)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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i noticed a weird bug so far. The middle button open tab but the page in it don't load, it stay "untitled". If i paste a url into that new tab it load fine, also a normal click into that tab load into itself fine. Only spawning of new tab seem problematic.
Another bug that seem to stay there is the no more able to acces bookmark anymore. All menu unfold fine exept some including the bookmark. When that happen it never work anymore until a restart of the app. What i think is trigering the bug is having lot of bookmark and being low on memory at that point.
btw, seem a lot of memory leak been fixed or something like that, it swap a lot less here than 0.93 was doing.
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| RE: Mozilla Bone Package updated! |
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By Ram - Posted on February 13, 2005 - 03:20:51 (#15831)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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I downloaded the 30+ MB package, so does this new 10+MB package the same thing or is it worth downloading again ?
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| Themes |
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By ataoist1@yahoo.com - Posted on February 12, 2005 - 17:24:37 (#15823)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 (Static) |
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Wahoo the most important part of FireFox for my family is the themes and their working again.
Thanks to all the BeOS Developers working on the Bleeding Edge.
The Zadar's
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| Firefox BONE package updated! |
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By tqh - Posted on February 12, 2005 - 09:52:58 (#15818)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 |
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It's now 12MB instead of 30MB, sorry for that.
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| Great work! |
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By Ram - Posted on February 12, 2005 - 06:19:41 (#15817)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0+ 20050210 |
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Just been trying Firefox 1.0 for a while now, seems very good.
And now Gmail seems to open without any problems, although once it went dormant on "Sign out" and I had to kill it to load anything else.
Anyhow - its definitely getting closer to Linux's firefox standard. Great work to say the least!
Keep up the phenomenal work guys!!! Firefox 1.0 is miles ahead of the 0.9.3 from my experience (Gmail, speed etc.)
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| hey need help with onMouse commands in javascript |
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By kinnera - Posted on February 9, 2005 - 20:35:45 (#15763)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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can anyone tell me which commands can be used instead of onMouse in javascript which is compatible with firefox..i have acode which works in IE but doesnot work in Firefox because of this onmouse and click commands..how do i modify that?
thank u!
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| Sunbird |
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By tqh - Posted on February 3, 2005 - 10:37:31 (#15669)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Hmm, it was some time since I looked at it, it was very imature at that point, but maybe it's time to have a look again. Thanks for reminding me.
/tqh
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| Calendar |
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By sarana - Posted on February 3, 2005 - 04:38:36 (#15667)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Hi,
I am beginning to want a good calendar application for BeOS, and seeing as how your mozilla net-server version works fairly well with its calendar, I was wondering if anyone is working on the stand-alone mozilla calendar, I believe it is called Sunbird, or something like that. Anyway, the fact that it is cross-platform, while not native to BeOS, is helpful to me personally. Of course I do not want to discourage any BeOS developer from creating a native full-featured calendar as well. Each has its place.
Unfortunately, I am not interested in developing for BeOS as my interests lie elsewhere, however, as a continuing end-user, I encourage those interested developers.
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| rv:1.8a5) Gecko/20050103 Netserver version |
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By cpbeach - Posted on January 23, 2005 - 03:47:05 (#15520)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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I have been using this version a lot since it was released, Thanks for all the continuing work on Mozilla and Firefox for BeOS/Zeta platforms.
Cliff Beach
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| Thanks! |
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By Alexander G M Smith - Posted on January 22, 2005 - 21:33:54 (#15518)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Thanks for posting the updated Mozilla-Netserver version, I find it quite useful!
- Alex
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| new netserver version crashes under Dano. |
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By tigerdog - Posted on January 11, 2005 - 17:28:32 (#15379)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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confirming comment included in description. Very fast and stable under Netserver in my experience.
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| New - 1.7a bugfix-and-bthreads |
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By SD - Posted on January 8, 2005 - 01:20:33 (#15327)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Bugfix version published in Mozilla-for-Bone section. Look at description there.
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| libdl.so |
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By tqh - Posted on December 30, 2004 - 10:47:22 (#15226)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Mozilla and Firefox don't need libdl.so. It's just that configure uses it if it finds it. So it's up to the developer to make sure configure doesn't find it.
It's easy to miss as the dev making the mistake already has libdl installed.
(I'm not very fond of configure and make btw)
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| the other reason, maybe? |
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By tigerdog - Posted on December 30, 2004 - 10:03:48 (#15225)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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I have had problems with firefox not starting; pretty much the symptoms described below. It turns out some builds of firefox depend on a non-original library called "libdl.so". You can find it here:
http://www.bebits.com/app/2917
Reading the comments, it's apparent Mozilla (and thus Firefox) have used it in the past. I'm guessing many common BeOS distributions (Developer's Edition, Max) may include this along with all the other improvements they have. But if you installed from original BeOS images, your system won't have it. I hope this helps!
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| The reason |
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By tqh - Posted on December 29, 2004 - 08:40:02 (#15213)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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The reason we havn't posted any new builds (for me at least) is that many changes happened between 0.9 and 1.0 which we're trying to sort out, and I don't want to release another 'sub-standard' build.
I suspect your Firefox build won't start is because it's marked as single-launch and Firefox code recently got code that restarts itself from within, which makes it not start. It's already launched :(. This is one of the things we've learned the hard way. If we could get clearer communication from Mozilla.org things like this wouldn't happen.
/tqh
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By sarana - Posted on December 29, 2004 - 08:13:08 (#15212)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Try checking out the bezilla blog for the nov 12th entry. You will see a more recent version of a net-server build there - this is the link: http://www.livejournal.com/community/bezilla/www.de-smederij.nl/firefox/MozillaFirefox-1.0.0-d4.zip
I hope the bezilla people won't mind my pointing this out. I imagine they have not posted it on Bebits for a reason, however, I have had good success with this build. It is imperfect, as our dedicated mozilla workers are still working hard on the builds, however, it does a pretty good job of making 1.0 Firefox available for BeOS.
Thanks to you guys for the effort.
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| Doesn't work... |
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By marcone - Posted on December 29, 2004 - 02:42:15 (#15208)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Tried all the "tricks" that were mentioned, and it just won't work (Firefox netserver version). On one machine it immediately quits without opening any windows, on another machine it never opens any windows either, but it doesn't quit.
The other version that's on BeBits (app 3143) works fine.
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| Startup problems under BeOSMAX 3.0 |
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By Ding - Posted on December 18, 2004 - 12:06:09 (#15086)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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I still have startup problems even with the empty configuration settings installed.
I'm afraid this problem will remain until I purchase the first Zeta release (not the candidate!!).
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| Netserver version please. |
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By edmundf - Posted on December 17, 2004 - 15:04:21 (#15074)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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Netserver version please.
+ a fix for the printing problem.
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| re Messsage filters working- not for me? |
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By procosm - Posted on December 13, 2004 - 04:25:16 (#15040)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.93 Release build 20040909 |
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I have just tried your trick SD, and when I restarted mozilla and opened the mail filters window the filter was still there that I created in the fake account. It looks like progress is been made. Thanks for the good work.
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