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By HarvestMoon - Posted on March 23, 2003 - 07:23:56 (#6536)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Dockbert is a BeUnited project now, and sources are available via CVS.
i have no time for development and so far noone is interested in developing it further. i took down the website and will link to BeUnited soon.
there have been directions posted how to build Dockbert from source, alternativly you can get the latest "official" builds from BeShare without doubt.
anyone interested in taking over Dockbert development shall mail me ...
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| dobocsaba.... |
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By ablyss - Posted on March 6, 2003 - 20:25:12 (#6228)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Try Beshare.tycomsystems.com
There are usually many version to download from.
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| Could someone tell me where can I download this app? |
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By dobocsaba - Posted on March 6, 2003 - 14:13:47 (#6224)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Could someone tell me where can I download this app?
There are broken links, and nobody seems to care.
Thanks
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| CVS builds |
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By Mark Round - Posted on December 26, 2002 - 15:31:50 (#5004)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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I recently checked out Dockbert and the latest OpenTracker from CVS - they both built perfectly. I'm going to add the instructions on my webpage, but for now, here's a simple version for all those that want Dockbert running on the latest OpenTracker :-
1. Make a directory called "src" in your home directory
2. Change into this directory, and checkout the OpenTracker CVS tree with this command (all one line) :-
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.opentracker.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/opentracker co opentracker
3. Grab the binary tools from the OpenTracker page, and unzip them into your "src" folder.
You should now have a "bin" directory, and the opentracker directory.
4. On my system (BeOS Online Developers Edition 1.1), for some reason, I had to manually add libstdc++ to the list of libraries to be included when building OpenTracker. Edit the makefile in the "tracker" folder so that line 166 reads
LIBS= translation stdc++
5. You should now be set. Go to the "opentracker" directory, and run "make", followed by "make install" - remember to backup your existing Tracker, Deskbar, and libtracker.so files!
6. Reboot - you are now running the latest CVS build of OpenTracker and can proceed to building dockbert.
Dockbert
1. In your "src" folder, create a new directory called "dockbert" and change into this.
2. Checkout the deskbar replacement and preferences utility from CVS with these two commands (each one line) :-
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@code.beunited.org:/cvs/dockbert co deskbar
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@code.beunited.org:/cvs/dockbert co prefs
3. This will create two new directories called "deskbar" and "prefs". GO into the "prefs" folder, and open "deskprefs.proj" with BeIDE. In the resulting window, choose Project->Make (or press Alt-M). Ignore the warnings that pop up, and you'll end up with a binary called "DockBert Preferences" in the folder. This is the preferences application - copy this to /boot/home/config/be/Preferences
4. Rename the "deskbar" folder to "dockbert" and move it into the OpenTracker folder (you may need to rename the folder from opentracker to OpenTracker, as the makefile in Dockbert uses the capitalised version)
5. Change into this "dockbert" folder, and run "make" - at the end of this, you should end up with a file in the obj.x86 or obj.ppc folders called "Deskbar" - this is the Dockbert deskbar replacement. You can then either copy it somewhere (/boot/apps, for instance) and run it from there - or you can overwrite your existing Deskbar in /boot/beos/system.
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| Dockbert is on beunited |
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By disreali - Posted on December 22, 2002 - 14:27:44 (#4963)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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You can find Dockbert source on beunited's delevopment page. http://www.beunited.org/index.php?page=developer
According to HarvestMoon, one of the original developers, he is still working on it. He has a real life, so developement is slow.
I'd love to be able to help with developement, but I'm just learning to code. Contact him via the beunited page if you think you can help.
Thanks again to the developers for creating such a wonderfully useful and way cool tool. I find that I can't go back to a system without it, it is that good.
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| Re: No more updating? |
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By Micke - Posted on November 9, 2002 - 16:53:19 (#4092)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Dockbert will continue it has been added to beunited's project list.
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| No more updating? |
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By sparrowsoup - Posted on November 9, 2002 - 15:52:19 (#4090)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Dockbert is one of the my favourite apps, I use old version of OpenTracker so I could use dockbert... It's really a shame it's not being developed anymore and source code is not available.
There, I just wanted to say that.
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| It rocks, updates VERY welcome |
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By Lanjoe9 - Posted on October 11, 2002 - 01:22:55 (#3544)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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It rocks. It's the most efficient taskbar ever.
Does not misuse visual space, very nice animations, useful pop-up options (just code the "bring here" options, please ;)
How about a panel to show the replicants?
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| You can remove the clock |
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By looncraz - Posted on September 15, 2002 - 23:32:24 (#3167)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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You can remove the clock just like the other items!
I haven't used Dockbert since linn was an arse to me about getting the latest source (he had already given me older source before), so I have no idea how to remove the items (like Ctrl-Click or somethiong).
--The loon
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| unfortunately... |
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By rdoyle720 - Posted on September 15, 2002 - 21:40:06 (#3166)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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The developer responsible for Dockbert and several other good BeOS apps is no longer developing for BeOS. He's apparently talking to people about releasing the code and possibly going open source. HOPEFULLY he'll do so.
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| Clock |
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By Intelinside - Posted on September 15, 2002 - 21:37:57 (#3165)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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I hope in the next version of Dockbert i can disable the clock, the flashing is irritating.
Thanks :)
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| wonderfully useful |
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By disreali - Posted on September 15, 2002 - 20:57:44 (#3164)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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I love Dockbert and was wondering if it is still being developed.
Also, I just tried out the newest OpenTracker 5.1.8 and Dockbert doesn't work with that version. Since I have come to depend on Dockbert so much I'll most likely switch back to OT 5.1.5.
I sincerely hope that you continue to deveope this wonderful useful add-on
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| re: remove |
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By linn - Posted on May 14, 2002 - 17:26:53 (#1429)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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to delete icons just drag them to the trash in dockbert. The internal tracker icons aren't being used ATM, so, the home folder, app folder etc will get default folder icons.
Hugo
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By Ruprect - Posted on May 14, 2002 - 01:40:37 (#1414)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Is there a way to turn off the second tab? I think it holds by default Net+ and BeShare. When I delete it, nothing happens, even after I restart the Deskbar.
Also, how come tracker shortcuts don't show their icons in a tab? Like, I've added /home and /apps, and their little superimposed icons don't show, just a standard Tracker icon. Now curiously, icons that I've edited will show up. Like I've done some Iconblender edits, and those show correctly.
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By linn - Posted on May 8, 2002 - 08:04:26 (#1337)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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We are still here, we've been working on new stuff, news should be out soon :-)
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| hello? |
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By rdoyle720 - Posted on May 7, 2002 - 23:12:19 (#1329)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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By rdoyle720 - Posted on April 28, 2002 - 18:15:51 (#1205)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Of course that means Dockbert has to know when you've quit cycling so that it will obey the stack order in further window cycling....(1, 2, 3, 1, 2 stop....next window cycling starts at 2, and then goes 1, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2....)
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| about the window cycling... |
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By rdoyle720 - Posted on April 28, 2002 - 18:13:10 (#1204)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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I must have not noticed this before. It seems that the window cycling goes from top to bottom, and then reverses to go bottom to top.
Let's say you have 1.jpg, 2.jpg, and 3.jpg open. 1.jpg is on top, 3.jpg is on bottom. The cycling will go 1, 2, 3, and then 3, 2, 1 (two clicks on the top and bottom of the stack). Is there way to make it so when you get to the bottom, it loops around to the top (1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3.....)?
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| Trash can icon |
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By vitg - Posted on April 28, 2002 - 03:07:07 (#1192)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Hmm. Dockbert has recently started using a proper Trash can icon (properly reflecting whether there is stuff in there ot not). What's odd is that I could swear it wasn't doing that yesterday, and I haven't upgraded dockbert (already on 106). Maybe I'm just easily confused, but it beats me...
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| Workspace switching. |
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By BigZaphod - Posted on April 26, 2002 - 16:43:21 (#1174)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Hey, just thought this might be a cool feature. Not sure how hard it would be to do, or if you even want to, but here it is:
When clicking on the little workspace number to switch between them, it might be nice to have an activation delay. What I mean is, if I want to click really fast forward 2 or 3 workspaces, it currently switches for each click. I admit on BeOS this isn't much of a performance issue, but it'd be nice if it waited a half-second for the clicking to stop before actually switching or something. That way, I can zoom past workspaces with different resolutions and not have to wait for my monitor to groan and gasp about changing modes.
Thanks! Dockbert is very cool. :-)
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| Re 32 bit transparent icons |
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By mmu_man - Posted on April 26, 2002 - 02:32:43 (#1149)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Hmm I didn't see icons were only 8 bpp in BeOS...
QuickRes does handle alpha blending, but it doesn't work with 8 bit images such as icons...
I think the easiest way would be in OBOS R2 to define new identifiers for icons, and so we could have both 32 bpp and 8 bpp icons in the binary
Maybe ICOX and MICX :^)
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| RE: 32-bit icons with transparency |
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By Jace - Posted on April 25, 2002 - 19:08:24 (#1143)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Though this is possible in applications on things such as UI controls and button bars, and other such items, it is not possible for standard icons (files, folders, app icons, etc). This is something that we should see in OBOS R2 or thereabouts. Unless someone wants to dedicate work to support this in OBOS R1 in a way that is backwards compatible with BeOS R5... Sorry for the OT.
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| Focus |
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By vitg - Posted on April 25, 2002 - 10:40:45 (#1136)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Is there anything you can do to stop Dockbert pinching the focus when switching workspaces.
With the ordinary (Open)Deskbar when you switch workspaces the window that last had focus on this desktop gets it back. With dockbert, even if I switch with Alt+Fn the focus is taken (as far as I can tell) by the dockbert window at the bottom.
While I'm in feature request mode, how about keyboardableness too (when the dock window has focus walk left and right with the cursors, ret/enter/space to activate or pop-up with menu (not sure what combination is most sane)?
Thanks again for a funky app.
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| Re: can't wait for the next release |
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By mmu_man - Posted on April 24, 2002 - 18:15:45 (#1130)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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> So, who do I have to pay to set up 32 bit icons with transparency in BeOS? Those would look great in Dockbert.... :)
BeOs does it already:
http://www.betips.net/chunga.php?ID=625
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By linn - Posted on April 24, 2002 - 16:59:32 (#1129)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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well, if you are a developer you could start developing some support for vector icons.. ;)
Hugo
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| can't wait for the next release |
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By rdoyle720 - Posted on April 23, 2002 - 16:38:17 (#1114)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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So, who do I have to pay to set up 32 bit icons with transparency in BeOS? Those would look great in Dockbert.... :)
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| sugestions |
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By linn - Posted on April 23, 2002 - 10:44:26 (#1110)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Sorry for just replying today, i didnt had the time before..
Thanks for all the sugestions, i'll take them in account.
with window cycling there are still some issues to be resolved
Hugo
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By BigZaphod - Posted on April 21, 2002 - 21:43:50 (#1076)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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As the subject line says, I've had Docbert sometimes not switch to Beam when it is running in another workspace. I don't know what makes Beam different from everything else, but it is happening.
Running R5.0.3/Intel.
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| suggestion for the date bubble |
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By filo - Posted on April 21, 2002 - 15:33:57 (#1067)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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have the bubble tell the date in ancient roman form. For example, on march 15th, it would say, "It's the Ides of March.", or on November 30, it might say "It's the day before the Kalends of December." you could also set it up to display holidays, like on October 31st it might display "Happy Halloween!" just a thought.
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| PPC...Yes!! |
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By brian68 - Posted on April 20, 2002 - 19:41:44 (#1055)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106+ (1.0.2) |
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Thanks to all for the PPC version!
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| Fitt's Law |
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By vitg - Posted on April 19, 2002 - 05:26:33 (#1024)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106 (1.0.2) |
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It'd be nice to have the active/clickable area extend all the way to the edge of the screen, which would make the apparant target you are trying to hit larger when you whizz the mouse over there (Fitt's Law is roughly 'the time taken to operate a control is proportional to how far away it is and it's area').
I have a few more thoughts but they might need illustrations. In short:
- changes to the icon to make it clear what will happen to something when it is clicked/dragged/dropped
- When moving items an I-bar or similar that shows where it will land if you let go
- The workspaces twiddler, a much abbreviated popup would be beneficial - just the numbers of the workspaces you'll get by hitting left/right mouse buttons [the interface on the Sony J25 mobile has this sort of thing looking pretty, I'll knock up a puic sometime]. Maybe I'm just backwards but it feels wierd that left takes you up one too - the mental model I have has them arranged in a long line 1 to the left, 9 to the right.
All in you're going some funky stuff though - thanks.
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| sugestions and easter eggs |
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By linn - Posted on April 17, 2002 - 07:36:42 (#997)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106 (1.0.2) |
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> Actually, I think the fellas are too serious. They need to >> sit back, have a few drinks and put a weird,
> humourous Easter Egg in Dockbert.
Actually, dockbert has some small easter eggs in it, try to play with dropping selected words from styledit to dockbert.. some are quite obvious :)
> Mr Eel's sugestions
Like Daniel (HarvestMoon) said, the things are in the works, even that i am excited (eheh) i dont have all the time of the world, so the last few releases have been mainly fixes, new stuff should be coming soon
Hugo
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| Re: More suggestions :) |
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By HarvestMoon - Posted on April 17, 2002 - 06:37:02 (#996)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106 (1.0.2) |
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>Dockbert keeps getting better and better. The speed of
>development is amazing. Well done!
yeah, linn is kinda overexcited atm :)
>Perhaps the tool tips could be attached to about 5px
>from the top and in the center of the icons, rather
>than having it appear above the mouse.
this is a matter of taste, but ... maybe ... :)
>Tools tips could appear automaticly. Waiting for them to
>appear can be a bit annoying, especially when you have
>many files with similar icons.
we will probably make the delay time for the tooltips customizable, so you can set it to your own needs.
>An option to have launched applications appear in a specified >tab, rather than a new one.
actually, launched apps (that are not in the shortcuts) appear in the "running apps" tab, it is only hidden when it is empty.
>Have folders display thier icons, rather than the default.
>For example, the people directory could appear with the
>icon it displays in the Tracker (a folder with a small
>people icon on it).
often requested, we hope to get it soon.
>A replicant shelf! Please.. this IMO is the most important
>thing yet to be implemented. All the other stuff is
>secondary. Not being able to access the replicant shelf
>is driving me crazy :)
in the works ...
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| More suggestions :) |
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By Mr eel - Posted on April 16, 2002 - 23:36:41 (#991)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106 (1.0.2) |
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Dockbert keeps getting better and better. The speed of development is amazing. Well done!
Just a few suggestions.
Perhaps the tool tips could be attached to about 5px from the top and in the center of the icons, rather than having it appear above the mouse.
Tools tips could appear automaticly. Waiting for them to appear can be a bit annoying, especially when you have many files with similar icons.
An option to have launched applications appear in a specified tab, rather than a new one.
Have folders display thier icons, rather than the default. For example, the people directory could appear with the icon it displays in the Tracker (a folder with a small people icon on it).
A replicant shelf! Please.. this IMO is the most important thing yet to be implemented. All the other stuff is secondary. Not being able to access the replicant shelf is driving me crazy :)
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By skiversoul - Posted on April 16, 2002 - 18:33:21 (#989)
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QUOTE
I think the Dockbert tooltips are a bit much, too. Too much, I mean. Especially the clock. That one is, sorry to sound harsh, totally unneccessary.
"It is right now only five minutes until 10 o'clock." C'mon... ;) ;)
END QUOTE
Well, this is BeOS. Think haiku, think un-Windowsy.
Actually, I think the fellas are too serious. They need to sit back, have a few drinks and put a weird, humourous Easter Egg in Dockbert.
Skiver
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By linn - Posted on April 16, 2002 - 18:06:05 (#988)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106 (1.0.2) |
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i had initially planned both the funky time and date in the clock bubble, for now i just added the funky time.. date will come in the next release.
Hugo
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By tswone - Posted on April 16, 2002 - 18:01:06 (#987)
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good job linn, i like it.
billy
Rock On!!
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| Clock bubble help |
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By carbon_unit - Posted on April 16, 2002 - 17:58:49 (#986)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 106 (1.0.2) |
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How about having the clock bubble help showing the month day and year?
That would be useful.
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| another reply :-) |
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By linn - Posted on April 16, 2002 - 17:23:34 (#984)
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> I think the Dockbert tooltips are a bit much, too. Too much, > I mean. Especially the clock. That one is,
> sorry to sound harsh, totally unneccessary. "It is right now > only five minutes until 10 o'clock." C'mon...
> ;) ;)
Well, we have to laugh a bit i guess :-)
> I still think that menus should be toggle-able, btw. :) (one > click opens, another click closes)
> Dockbert is getting better! I like the latest version more >> than previous versions. Keep up the good
> work!
Thanks!
Hugo
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By Jace - Posted on April 16, 2002 - 17:14:30 (#983)
Current version when comment was posted: Build 105 (1.0.1) |
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I think the Dockbert tooltips are a bit much, too. Too much, I mean. Especially the clock. That one is, sorry to sound harsh, totally unneccessary. "It is right now only five minutes until 10 o'clock." C'mon... ;) ;)
I still think that menus should be toggle-able, btw. :) (one click opens, another click closes)
Dockbert is getting better! I like the latest version more than previous versions. Keep up the good work!
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