BeBits Information Developer Central Submit Application Your Account Web Links Contact Us
BeBits
Please support our sponsors!
NewtonFractal
Talkback
 Go back to the NewtonFractal page
 Post a new Talkback comment!
G3 caveats
 By brian68 - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 17:42:15   (#3789)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4
This thread should probably be moved to BeGroovy or TheGreenBoard, but anyway...

In my experience, the NewerTech and BottomLine cards work the best with BeOS. I used a Sonnet G3 L2 in my 4400 for several months but was frustrated by the lockups and the horrible sound. Using the NewerTech card has not fixed the sound (L2 prob?) but the machine in no longer crash-happy.

Powerlogix cards work sometimes, but I have seen more success with the use of XLR8's. The non-L2 G3 upgrades should not have the sound problems the L2 upgrades do. I will be getting a PCI audio card for the 4400 soon to see if the G3 L2 problem goes away, and will post info at one of the sites above.

For what it's worth
 By mryon - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 16:35:14   (#3787)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4

The machine I did the port to PPC on is a 7600
with an Xlr8 G3/233 card.

MacOS 8.5, 9 and BeOS R5 all work great.

I definatly got my $20 worth from the University
of Iowa surplus store. ;)


Good to hear about PPC
 By GScrain - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 07:36:55   (#3774)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4
I have a 7300/200 604e Mac that I just ordered a G3/400 w/1M cache upgrade card for $119. I hope your right that everything still works with BeOS. I've been having a hardware lockup problem, maybe it will go away (might be PS too). I also had Mac OSX.1 running on it with XPostFacto.

Ummmm....yeah. :-)
 By brian68 - Posted on October 25, 2002 - 02:32:08   (#3769)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4
I have two Macs running G3's. One is my trusty (rusty??) 4400/200 which started life as the 603e-packin' PC-compatible (166MHz) bastard child of the Mac world. I ripped out the PC card and the L2 cache in favor of a 300MHz NewerTech G3/L2 upgrade, and it has been used to port just over 100 apps (x86 BeOS & GNU) with it. Pretty zippy.

The other one is a 7300/200 (604e) that has a PowerLogix 233MHz G3 daughtercard in it, which is either going to be replaced with a faster NewerTech card, or possibly a dual 180MHz 604e I picked up recently. I think the G3 will be faster, but BeOS likes 2+ processors, so it's worth looking into.

Older PPC's are cheap these days, and the upgrades are a good deal, too. Some of them can even be made to run OS X with the help of XPostFacto. Best of all, for BeOS, drivers aren't an issue. :-)

the difference between PPC CPUs and Mobos
 By mainlymac - Posted on October 24, 2002 - 23:32:12   (#3764)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4
The fine gentleman who notes getting this fine app to run on a G3 under BeOS is no doubt using a G3-upgraded 9600 or earlier model. As far as I know, it's not the CPU that BeOS has issues with as much as the motherboard design. So, if you upgrade a 603/604 machine that BeOS runs on to a G3, usually BeOS will still run on the G3.

I hope this is an off handed comment
 By Jess - Posted on October 24, 2002 - 22:43:10   (#3762)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4
I hope this is an off handed comment, but if it's not I'd like to know how you got Be running on a G3.

runs OK with a G3
 By brian68 - Posted on October 24, 2002 - 16:23:54   (#3757)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4
Thanks for the PPC version! It is a bit slower than I would expect for an app of this type. Perhaps it is doing more calculation than is necessary to render a good-quality image?

....how about this
 By unlyrn. - Posted on July 9, 2002 - 04:15:05   (#2159)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3.1
theres something of BeOS joke that "every developer needs to write at least one screensaver..."

well, instead of writing screensavers, how about writing media nodes? if half the screensaver guys out there made a video-producer node for the mediakit, we would have an elite video/VJ setup. if you're not sure what I'm saying, read up on the mediakit in the BeBook, take a look at the samplecode, play around with cortex, and think about the possibilities!

oh, and FWIW, I get the same kind of program behaviour as Jess.

make it a screensaver!
 By filo - Posted on July 8, 2002 - 13:01:37   (#2155)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3.1
umm, the subject pretty much says it all.

Specs
 By Jess - Posted on July 8, 2002 - 10:35:53   (#2152)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3.1
R5.0.3
K6-2 550 (intel)
768mb of ram
blablabla

if you want my full spec I'll drop it out

interesting....
 By mryon - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 23:59:01   (#2148)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3.1

no, that is not what it is supposed to do...

Are you using R5? 4.5?

Intel or PPC??



hmmm
 By Jess - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 21:27:43   (#2147)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3.1
Ok so I downloaded it to see the d0 error like most every one else. Now I see it's "Fixed" so I gave it another shot. So now I'm left with the question is it supposed to do nothing!? Thats more me being cheeky as it does do somthing my cpu load goes to 100% for about 4 to 5 seconds & then a windows opens & for about 1.5 seconds there is a very small fractle there... Then it just goes away
$ /boot/home/Desktop/NewtonFractal-v0.3/NewtonFractal
angle 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
angle 0.333333 0.500000 0.866025
angle 0.666667 -0.500000 0.866025
angle 1.000000 -1.000000 0.000000
angle 1.333333 -0.500000 -0.866025
angle 1.666667 0.500000 -0.866025
Kill Thread

I did not close the window to enduce that Kill thread. It jsut DIES!.. or is it supposed to?
- Jess

merci
 By mryon - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 19:27:11   (#2146)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3.1
thanks...

there are a bunch of things I'd like to do..
but I've been sitting on this for at least 6 months and have done nothing new. I figured I'd give it out in case someone could have a little bit of fun. :)



Ok, pretty cool..
 By obelisk - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 18:57:58   (#2145)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3.1
Yes, I redownloaded and ran it. It's not bad :-)

Now, I'll give my ideas. If ya put it together on legal dano or not.. some people might forget build targeting. "who are we releasing this for?" Other than that consideration- I think it's a very neat application. I'd like to see a few things implemented, but seeing it's eyecandy, you'd know I would hehe.

Aside from usual fractal stuff, zooming, panning, etc, there's all sort of "live" functions you can give the application. Color cycling, strobing, reverse strobing, full screen, acid crawls.. tons, literally tons of cool stuff you can add to fractals.

but, I think it's a good demo, all in all. Good schtuff.

Oh yeah, it's now fixed.
 By mryon - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 13:23:31   (#2143)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3
Fixed for R5. No, I've not tried R4.5 nor am I going to.

oops
 By mryon - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 13:22:13   (#2142)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3
Yes, my fault. I didn't check on an R5 machine. Cut me some slack, I've not used R5 in over 2.5 years, yes really. MarcusOverhagen: you might want to think before you make implications like that. Believe it or not, some people are legaly using beta versions.

Does neither work nor compile on BeOS R5
 By MarcusOverhagen - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 09:08:19   (#2140)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3
This application does neither work nor compile on BeOS R5.
I don't use illegal beta Versions of BeOS.
You should consider fixing it or remove this application from BeBits.

Dano build!
 By stippi - Posted on July 7, 2002 - 08:50:35   (#2139)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.3
This has been compiled on Dano!

 
The Green Board
  Recent Downloads  -  # 646
Total Downloads  -  # 2,429
Total Views  -  # 3,057
User Ratings  -  N/A
  Misc. Science & Math
1.  QEMU - 9.62
2.  ScummVM - 9.50
3.  cpu_fix - 9.42
4.  Jukebox - 9.36
5.  Haiku AGP busm... - 9.35
6.  vim6 - 9.31
7.  Beezer - 9.25
8.  BeeF - 9.25
9.  HandBrake - 9.24
10.  DOSBox - 9.22
1.  Ati Radeon Grap... - 248
2.  Realtek RTL8139... - 201
3.  BeOS 5 Personal... - 191
4.  ATI Rage 128 Pr... - 168
5.  USB Serial driver - 102
6.  Ensoniq AudioPC... - 102
7.  DjVu Viewer - 98
8.  Broadcom 440x 10... - 98
9.  VLC Media Player - 71
10.  S3 Trio 64 v2 DX... - 64
You are not logged in.
 Login or create an account...
Hosted by NetConnect

 
Unless otherwise noted, everything is copyright © 1999-2002 Fifth Ace Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
For more legal trivia, take a gander at our
Legal Stuff page and our Privacy Statement.
Fifth Ace Productions