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By atapahs - Posted on October 16, 2002 - 13:46:29 (#3640)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.02 |
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Date and day is off. Today is the 16th Wed. not Thur the 16th 2002.
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| Wow! |
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By jefro - Posted on September 14, 2002 - 19:22:00 (#3156)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 |
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| cpu usage |
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By execom - Posted on August 9, 2002 - 08:24:30 (#2587)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 |
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You can change the priority of the application in Advanced rendering settings (set it to NORMAL instead of HIGH)
Of course it will slow the things a bit, but will release resource for other applications.
The application requires a fast CPU - in fact developed on a P3 1Ghz CPU)
(Since there is no 3d acceleration,). You can use the full screen mode (using BWindowScreen).
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| works fine on 400 celeron but.. |
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By sasquatch666 - Posted on August 9, 2002 - 06:04:45 (#2583)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 |
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it maxes out the puny cpu so bad it's hard to shut it down, i had to kill it with the process controller(which barely worked due to the system being so exhausted)very cool tho...maybe you should try to make it less system draining!!
3D starchart is every bit as cool but does'nt drain my resources nearly as bad,although i really like the aspect of being able to stand on earth and look into the sky that this app provides as well as the real time part so you can see what is out there right now!
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| RE: fullscreen |
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By execom - Posted on August 7, 2002 - 03:36:17 (#2562)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 |
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In display options, choose BWindowscreen as renderer, press Apply, quit application (yes) and restart. You will get fullscreen.
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| Fullscreen |
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By averonban - Posted on August 6, 2002 - 18:47:21 (#2561)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 |
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How do I switch to the fullscreen mode? =D
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| PPC version |
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By execom - Posted on August 6, 2002 - 11:35:40 (#2560)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 |
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Yes, actually, the MacOS classic is being ported (should be released next week) - PPC 603/233Mhz minimum)
But for a BeOS/PPC, it's a bit harder (my PPC machine is an iMac, and BeOS cannot be installed on it)
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| PPC? |
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By ade - Posted on August 6, 2002 - 10:48:40 (#2559)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 |
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What about PPC Version?
I thing your engine was once portet to ppc too, or am i wrong?
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| Oh, btw... |
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By J.Seemer - Posted on August 4, 2002 - 11:52:24 (#2536)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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All try location Munich/Germany, 11th August 1999 around 12h 37min :) That was a eerie moment I hope to always remember...
BTW, why doesn't the lightning in spaceview fit? I hoped to see the moon's shadow... :)
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| Ey, cool! |
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By J.Seemer - Posted on August 3, 2002 - 11:12:08 (#2516)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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Wow, what a fun app! Wished BeOS had decent HW acceleration...
Anyway, it'd be cool if you could enter your home's coordinates manually. Pointing with the mouse on the map isn't that precise... I'm lucky if I hit the state where I live :)
Very nice demo! Will we see more demos with that engine?
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| re: windows version |
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By execom - Posted on August 1, 2002 - 12:04:29 (#2480)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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go to http://realtech-vr.com/skytools.
There is a version for Windows and also for Windows CE.
The windows version has 3d acceleration (opengl 1.3 or direct3d 8.1), so of course, it's faster.
But if we compare the software renderer mode Windows vs BeOS, the BeOS version is a bit faster. Also there is a driver in /lib/experimental. copy it back to /lib and it will use BDirectWindow instead of BWindow and will render faster. Only works correctly if your desktop is also in 32bpp.
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| Windows version? |
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By giuffsalvo - Posted on August 1, 2002 - 11:40:09 (#2479)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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I tried the BeOS version: cool! But I'd like to see how fast is the Windows version. Where can I download it?
Thanks a lot
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| Na you dont have to... |
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By Jess - Posted on July 31, 2002 - 09:59:09 (#2472)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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you dont have to patch it. I just think it would be cool to try... suddenly I feel like a PPC user... :(
- Jess
~/guess I'll delete it
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| Cool |
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By Yeti - Posted on July 31, 2002 - 04:58:31 (#2469)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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I am using RC2 right now. And it's fun and pretty usable (on dual Celeron 533). Cool app. Thanks!
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| System required |
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By execom - Posted on July 31, 2002 - 04:06:52 (#2467)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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Skytools VR needs at least a Pentium II processor with Pentium Pro extensions : here the full explanations:
Because the engine use the Pentium Pro CMOV instruction and MMX used during rasterizing (which improve about +5%,+10%).
Also the program has be compiled with gcc 2.95 with -march=ppro.
AMD K6/2 does not support CMOV instruction, so during the initialisation, the program check the CPUID and looks for the CMOV flags. if not present, the program exits (else, you will have a crash on illegal instruction during rendering).
The programs runs in 800x600x32bit, process a starfield of up to 16000 point, renders planets from 1500 to 6000 polys, gouraud shaded, bilinear filtered texture mapped with no 3d acceleration, and do complex calculations (in double floating point) to computes planets positions.
If you need a try anyway, I can provide you a version, Pentium only as a patch (based from the Ipaq version). I will prepare that.
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| note & a question... |
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By Jess - Posted on July 30, 2002 - 21:12:12 (#2460)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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First thing I woud like to note is that the application will not replace or create a new "Registry" file if you remove the old one at least it wont on my machine & this may be due to the Quoestion part of this post... will it not replace the file simply cuz it wants to bail due to the cpu... my cpu
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have MMX but I have had other MMX applications fail to see the MMX on my cpu. My system spec is:
cpu: AMD k6-2 550
Ram: 768mb pc100 clocked to a 2 cas latency
video: ATI Rage 2C
blablabla heh hope my cpu isnt the problem...
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| dead I said dead fred |
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By Jess - Posted on July 30, 2002 - 20:44:11 (#2458)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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$ /boot/apps/Skytools\ VR\ 2002/skytools
Loading registry file /boot/home/config/settings/Realtech/registry.dat
Can't load registry.dat
Kill Thread
$ /boot/apps/Skytools\ VR\ 2002/skytools
Loading registry file /boot/home/config/settings/Realtech/registry.dat
Can't load registry.dat
Kill Thread
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| note for the 30 people who downloaded the RC1 version |
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By execom - Posted on July 30, 2002 - 11:28:08 (#2450)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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Delete your old version, upload RC2, delete the
registry.dat in config/settings/Realtech and try again.
Of course, in case of pb, give the terminal output.
Now everything is fixed (due to a stupid bug in package).
RC3 will only fixes some minors bugs.
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| Dead |
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By Jess - Posted on July 30, 2002 - 10:59:47 (#2448)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC2 |
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It's still dead - it will not create the registry.dat file to read from & will not run without it
- Jess
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| and Terminal output before crash |
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By s_d - Posted on July 29, 2002 - 14:18:53 (#2427)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC1 |
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Loading registry file /boot/home/config/settings/Realtech/registry.dat
Signature in rsrc doesn't match constructor arg. (application/x-vnd.Realtech-Skytool,application/x-vnd.Realtech-Skytools)
** v3x: rasterizer loaded...** v3x: alloc kernel** v3x: client loaded 'V3X(c) Software Renderer' REV 1.57.Resume thread BWin
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| stack crawl |
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By s_d - Posted on July 29, 2002 - 14:15:47 (#2426)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC1 |
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_malloc_internal:
_malloc_internal:
+0545 ec076599: * 0c7a89 movl %edi, 0x0000000c(%edx)
skytools:sc
frame retaddr
fcffb63c ec076ff4 _malloc + 0000002c
fcffb660 ec06a42f malloc + 00000043
fcffb680 ec0693f9 find_directory + 000000c9
fcffb9b4 ec26563f find_directory(directory_which, BPath *, bool, BVolume *) + 0000004f
fcffbdd8 ec1bafb6 BAlert::InitIcon(void) + 0000004e
fcffbf28 ec1ba28d BAlert::InitObject(char const *, char const *, char const *, char const *, button_width, button_spacing, alert_type) + 000001a1
fcffc018 ec1bc184 BAlert::BAlert(char const *, char const *, char const *, char const *, char const *, button_width, alert_type) + 00000078
fcffc07c 8001fd18 STUB_Application::MessageReceived(BMessage *) + 00000108
fcffc0cc ec19a900 BLooper::DispatchMessage(BMessage *, BHandler *) + 0000007c
fcffc0e4 ec18ff41 BApplication::DispatchMessage(BMessage *, BHandler *) + 000006e5
fcffc30c ec198979 BLooper::task_looper(void) + 0000043d
fcffc5d8 ec191c6c BApplication::Run(void) + 0000005c
fcffc5ec 8001fe8e main + 000000de
fcffc61c 8001a785 _start + 00000061
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| HAHAH |
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By Jess - Posted on July 29, 2002 - 13:49:41 (#2425)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC1 |
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Thats the best comment "Slower then Linux desktop speed" Ah com'on all those linux lovers that like waiting 10 seconds before the system shows any sign it's going to do something. heh ya so anyway I gues the fix will be up tomarrow so I hope to see it then...
- Jess
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| doesn't work here too |
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By ahwayakchih - Posted on July 29, 2002 - 13:47:18 (#2424)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC1 |
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after first try it just crashed (something was on screen for a 10 miliseconds maybe, and than BeOS alert about crash). i used sc command and there was something about malloc IIRC.
second try crashed again. third and next show some black square and hide it (on deskbar i can see only "quit" item, no windows) but app eats processor time (whole BeOS slows down to worse-than-linux-desktop speed ;).
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| Uh nice? |
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By Jess - Posted on July 29, 2002 - 12:53:18 (#2423)
Current version when comment was posted: 2002.RC1 |
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Ok so I downloaded this & now come back to post that it dont work heh & it's "No longer available for download" ...nice heh? I tried to run it & got:
This program requires at least a Pentium Pro processor.
Hmm well last I check I thought my cpu was a tad faster then that heh.
- Jess
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