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| Cant install Firebird |
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By hermitguy - Posted on December 8, 2003 - 18:16:32 (#9910)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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Do I need the .01/.03 updates to Beos5PE to run Firebird?
Right now I cant run it. I downloaded zip to empty file, then used expander on it. This created a Firebird folder. At command line tried "/boot/home/.../MozillaFirebird/run-mozilla.sh" Get reply, cannot execute. Try "/boot/home/.../MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird" Get reply "invalid symbol". Try "/boot/home/.../MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird.bin" Get reply "missing library..." The 'missing' library is right there in the Mozilla Firebird file.
Am I doing something wrong or do I have a bad download or what. I'd like to give this a try as Opera3.62 is bit long in tooth. Just this morning I couldnt read mail in an occasionally used webmail account I have because Opera3.62 doesnt support the kind of javascript they use. And I am sure Opera3.62 doesnt support 128bit encryption used at bank sites, etc.
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| re: digger |
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By tb100 - Posted on December 8, 2003 - 11:27:19 (#9902)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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Most of the bugs in the port are BeOS-specific. However, firebird itself is still not at version 1 yet, so there are also some bugs common to all platforms.
The problem is that there are simply not enough people working on the BeOS port to get rid of these bugs or fix some of the other issues like printing.
If you look at some of the recent CVS builds, they show an awesome speed increase - but yet more bugs have been introduced too (bookmarks don't work, more graphics bugs, etc).
Sergei (and Paul, although busy atm) are both working hard to keep the BeOS port working, but that takes long enough that there is very little time to fix the other bugs.
It may get better in the future, but more people are needed for that to happen.
Simon
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| Full of bugs in BeOS version? |
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By Digger - Posted on December 8, 2003 - 01:18:28 (#9899)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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I use Firebird (0.6) under BeOS (with BONE) and it's fast, stable and has slick features (tabbing rocks) but it's got to be the buggiest piece of software I've ever run across.
Case in point:
If you use the tab key to switch blanks in a form, the cursor disappears.
It won't save Preferences (every time I want to open an image, it asks me what application to use, it never remembers, even if I tell it to)
And there are tons more. Admittedly minor, but I'm not used to this kind of bugs using BeOS software. Is this because it's a port, or is the native version of Firebird full of odd bugs like this as well?
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| re: cvincent |
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By disreali - Posted on November 27, 2003 - 17:03:21 (#9779)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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I just did a search of the Open BeOS Bugs in the Mozilla Bugzilla db and found the following bug, whick I think relates to your concern.
Bug 222037 - HTTPS doesn't work under BONE netstack in 1.5* trunk
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=222037
I hope this helps.
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| re: using Bugzilla |
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By disreali - Posted on November 27, 2003 - 16:47:54 (#9778)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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(oops...this was supposed to be in the last post)
jeanmarc mentioned the guided bug submittion form, But i think it is best to review the existing beos specific bugs first. I won't post the url here, it is very long. I recommend the ppl visit the www.bezilla.org page and look for the Bugzilla links on the right. They are quite helpful, especially the 'Open BeOS Bugs'.
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| re: tigerdaog |
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By disreali - Posted on November 27, 2003 - 16:30:13 (#9777)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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Hey Tigerdog
Thanks for encouraging ppl to use Bugzilla. It is the only way that everyone here that uses Mozilla/Firebird can directly influence fixing of bugs.
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| Problem with SSL... |
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By cvincent - Posted on November 27, 2003 - 14:40:16 (#9775)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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Hi,
I try to enter insecure www but i can't, i use BeOS R5 + Bone and that's work fine with Net+, an idea ????
Regards,
CKJ
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| oops |
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By jeanmarc - Posted on November 22, 2003 - 21:50:07 (#9718)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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i mean submit :p
BTW nice build Disreali thanks !
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| Bug report |
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By jeanmarc - Posted on November 22, 2003 - 21:49:19 (#9717)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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I think the best way to support a bug is via :
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
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| Newer builds |
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By tigerdog - Posted on November 22, 2003 - 18:15:57 (#9715)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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The link on this page goes to an older version of Firebird. Unofficial nightly builds of Firebird and Mozilla are being compiled by a dedicated BeOS fan (many thanks!) and can be downloaded from
http://pryan.org/mozilla/firebird/disreali/
There's also an active Mozillazine thread:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=34712
Finally, please consider creating a Bugzilla account and reporting bugs to the Mozilla/Firebird development team instead of here. You can use your "vote" power to raise awareness of the importance of Firebird in the BeOS community.
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| Hmm |
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By tqh - Posted on October 24, 2003 - 15:52:04 (#9338)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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The first launch after installation seems to be very slow.
The startup time depends a lot on the configuration of the build, the memory in your computer, the disk and the processor.
You might want to try out the http://www.bebits.com/app/2715 versions.
You can also get rid of the startup-script by creating a lib-directory and moving the .so and .so.stub files there. You should then be able to run the MozillaFirebird-bin directly.
Btw, I did a Firebird build for Netserver (0.61 I think) that was quite optimized. You should be able to find it on BeShare.
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| unoptimized startup script? |
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By myyr - Posted on October 24, 2003 - 08:20:50 (#9331)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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when i fire up MozillaFirebird it puts its name on the deskbar and starts loading (lots of HDD activity) and then it takes approx 30 sec or more to bring up the main window.
have anyone any ideas how to solve this problem? so far opera is the one for me on beos (this post i write with NetPOsitive : )
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| Re: Gecko |
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By tqh - Posted on October 23, 2003 - 15:40:58 (#9327)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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Isn't it nice that there are several different builds to choose from? :)
You do want to use the Gecko versions of Firebird. Gecko versions tries to patch everything they can ( crashing flash, gfx-drawing and so on) and optimize. Since it takes such a long time for patches to get into CVS the CVS builds are not so nice.
This is a clean CVS-build without patches.
It's a shame about the different names and so, we tried to put all different builds on one page (Gecko) but it's hard when they keep changing names on the project.
BTW, https is still broken under BONE. So no new builds yet.
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| Same difference? |
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By bellhop - Posted on October 23, 2003 - 14:39:16 (#9326)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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Anyone know the difference between this Firebird and the Gecko one at http://www.bebits.com/app/2715 ?
It's really a mess with all this Mozilla stuff living at BeBits...
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| Gecko SDK link borked |
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By ahwayakchih - Posted on October 20, 2003 - 15:21:57 (#9293)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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| Redraw problems. |
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By tqh - Posted on October 20, 2003 - 14:08:07 (#9292)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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The redraw problems will disappear when JetGfx-patches from fyysik gets checked into CVS.
(They are available at bezilla.org if Elliot would want to do a new build.)
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| Rendering bug |
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By ahwayakchih - Posted on October 20, 2003 - 11:20:42 (#9290)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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This version (i don't know about mozilla - i use quite old version from fyysik) has problems with <body> backgrounds. It renders it first time, but after scrolling doesn't refresh it properly. If i open page in new tab and go to another tab while pag is still loading, and then come back after page is loaded, background is not there at all.
I don't want to post sites i tried here, but if You want i can mail them (no their not pr0n ;] they're just commercial sites).
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| CTRL vs ALT keyboard shortcuts |
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By zenja - Posted on October 20, 2003 - 10:15:47 (#9288)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.7 |
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This has probably been brought up again and again and again. BeOS has a Menu preference which allows users to set if their shortcut key is CTRL or ALT. Please use this setting with Firebird. Sergei's version of Stripzilla does use this setting. It is very annoying to swap from ALT-shortcut to CTRL-shortcut depending on which version of *Firebird I use.
Remember, if its hardcoded, its not userfriendly. Otherwise, thanks for the update, this version of Firebird is definately needed. Fix the keyboard shortcut thingie, and I'll buy you a case of beer.
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| re fonts/preferences |
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By procosm - Posted on October 2, 2003 - 01:45:48 (#9001)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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Thats right disraeli. I should have known that fonts/preferences are part of mozilla.
anyway since this has been fixed in Mozilla now, the fonts and colors can be changed for Firebird.
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| re: fonts pref panel |
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By disreali - Posted on September 26, 2003 - 23:24:55 (#8940)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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MozillaFirebird never had a problem with crshing when trying to change fonts. It was and still is a promlem with the MozillaAppSuite. FB uses a different mechanism to deal with appearence.
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| Fonts preferences now work |
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By procosm - Posted on September 24, 2003 - 12:45:10 (#8928)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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I just tried out the Firebird 0.7+ build and the Tools/Options/Font & Colors preferences now work without crashing. I was the one that filed the Fonts preferences crash bug for Mozilla 1.5b so if a similar patch is been applied to this browser the same problem should be fixed there to.
I have not seen any bug filed for Mozilla 1.5b, for what I think is related, in Mozilla 1.5b Mail. When I click on Compose in mail a crash immediately occurs and the debug message is very similar to the debug message for the fonts preferences bug in both Mozilla and Mozillafirebird.
If I am right then both bugs should be fixed at once
I wont file any bug until I try out Mozilla if the patch is also applicable there.
Anyway thanks for the great browser.
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| Redraw problems |
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By tqh - Posted on September 23, 2003 - 12:02:02 (#8918)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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The redraw problems are fixed in the JetGfx patch. Try the builds from http://www.bebits.com/app/2715 as they contain more patches. (Although latest BONE-build is problematic)
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| Okay, reality set in... |
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By Jace - Posted on September 23, 2003 - 03:07:25 (#8911)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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Well, now that I've had time to try using it more, I have to retract my heavy praise for Firebird. While, yes it is far and away much faster than any Mozilla's I've used on BeOS, I just cannot use it to actually browse the web. I get redraw problems, and other functional problems that keep me from actually working with sites such as web mail and forums. I hope that this is only for a short time that it's this bad, because it was the first time I experienced excitement at the possibility of a better browser on BeOS. BTW: I tested Flash on my installation and it did work.
Good luck folks!!
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| Flash bug |
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By tqh - Posted on September 11, 2003 - 16:25:42 (#8770)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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This is (probably) a known bug and it's been fixed too but not yet in CVS.
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| flash |
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By Drake - Posted on September 11, 2003 - 15:43:13 (#8769)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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Hmm works fine in my builds from source.
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| Flash won't work |
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By Esaltato - Posted on September 11, 2003 - 15:26:05 (#8768)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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I've tried JetFX and plain version, both don't work with Flash. Instead the old versions (i have 0.5-0.51) work fine.
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| Holy Crap! This thing actually puts Mozilla and BeZilla to shame!! Why?? |
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By Jace - Posted on August 29, 2003 - 07:06:29 (#8624)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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I am amazed at how much faster FirebirdMozilla is compared to the other Mozillas available for BeOS. I have been hating Mozilla, but Firebird is actually acceptable (could be better, but hey, I'm impressed that it's this much better than what I expected).
Please keep providing us with BeOS builds! This kicks the crap out of the other Mozillas available on BeOS!!!
Usually within the first few seconds of using these things they piss me off, but aside from a crash on start (I tried to run it several times), it has impressed me with a better redraw speed, faster rendering, better menus, better preferences, support of the system clipboard (granted, the keyboard commands are still wrong) and much more that I thought was never going to get improved in BeZilla.
Thank you! (of course, now I see that the cursor still doesn't display until typing starts, and the submit button image wont stay on the screen... but this is still better than Mozilla)
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| RE: crashes in font prefs |
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By tqh - Posted on August 4, 2003 - 16:35:52 (#8422)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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This, and the drawing problems when scrolling, are common problems for the current CVS-build. They've been there for a while and probably will be due to lack of developers.
The JetGfx versions should handle drawing better though.
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| crashes in font prefs |
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By emwe - Posted on August 4, 2003 - 12:37:23 (#8420)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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When I try to open the fonts-preferences, FireBird crashes. I renamed my ~/config/fonts dir, as i thought, that it could be the prob, as over 600 fonts are in there, but even after that, FireBird crashed.
Michael
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| firebird .6.1 |
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By 0belix - Posted on August 4, 2003 - 06:18:04 (#8418)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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http://www.tunetrackersystems.com (and other sites) leaving terrible artifacts while scrolling
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| rer: Full screen trap |
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By tb100 - Posted on August 3, 2003 - 10:29:57 (#8414)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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I've not tried this version, but I have seen the problem on other bezilla/firebird builds.
Firebird should save the window position when you close it, so the solution is: Switch to a different workspace, open the workspace prefs app, drag the firebird window a bit so you can see the tab, switch back to the firebird workspace, position the window where you want it, and close firebird. The next time you start the window *should* be in the correct position.
HTH
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| Full-screen trap? |
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By TwilightDawn - Posted on May 12, 2003 - 19:24:14 (#7283)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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I've been using phoenix\firebird for a while and have really been impressed with it. However, a few days ago when I opened the browser it for some reason resized itself so that I could see the entire contents of the window, but could not reach the edges to resize it. While fully functional, it just denied me access to anything else (unless I used the Twitcher). Is this a known bug or is my copy just possessed? And no, it wasn't a script on a webpage, the broswer loads up with a blank page. Thanks for your help!
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| FireBird RC-2003-04-29(0.6) and net_server... |
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By ablyss - Posted on May 3, 2003 - 17:25:37 (#7156)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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OK this version is major improvment from what i've seen in the past.
Keep it up and it will soon be my default browser :-P
--ablyss
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| re: new to beos |
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By rain - Posted on May 1, 2003 - 02:12:51 (#7120)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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this isn't really the right place for you questions. but anyway, yes if you install BeOS PE on a windows partition you can either choose to start it using a bootdisk or start it from windows. If you choose to install it on it's own partition, you can use the bootmanager that comes with BeOS. It's impossible to tell you if your computer is fully supported since you didn't provide the complete specs. But my guess is that it is fully supposted.
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| New to BEos |
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By maximustheophilus - Posted on May 1, 2003 - 01:44:43 (#7119)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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Before I decide to download BEos I wanted to know if you are given the option of loading windows or BEos at startup? And does anybody know if BEos is compliant with an AST Computer, Pent. III, Win98?
Thanks.
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| same as mozilla - crash on flash |
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By Jess - Posted on April 30, 2003 - 19:26:49 (#7114)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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All these browsers crash on flash sites. Yes flash sucks but it's rather hard to go to a site that doesnt have flash some where as an add or nav bar. No flash you cant use the site.
There are some good sites that use flash. Anyway just letting you know flash is a no go. This is only a problem with net_server mozilla "like" browsers.
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| Re:Problem when scrolling pages with background |
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By Masque - Posted on April 20, 2003 - 17:27:55 (#6962)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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> If you use netserver, you can try to look at your pages with
> http://bebits.com/bob/14660/JustBrowser-netserver-16.03.2003.zip
I use alredy this version and it works fine.
I found the scroll problem only with the latest nigtly builds of phoenix and firebird.
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| Re:Problem when scrolling pages with background |
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By s_d - Posted on April 20, 2003 - 13:56:23 (#6959)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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http://bezilla.org/article.php?sid=68&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Probably reason is that Elliot couldn't include this time GFX-fixes, known internally as JetGFX.
But as those patches now are on its way into main source tree, i hope such issues will go away soon.
If you use netserver, you can try to look at your pages with
http://bebits.com/bob/14660/JustBrowser-netserver-16.03.2003.zip
to see if there is such issue there too.
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| Problem when scrolling pages with background |
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By Masque - Posted on April 20, 2003 - 11:49:35 (#6956)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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With the last nightly biuld of Firebird, if I try to scroll pages with a background:
<BODY background="something.jpg ... >
the text doesn't scroll and all becomes overlapped.
Try www.painofsalvation.it or tanelornbards.cjb.net.
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| re: BeOSFreak |
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By ahwayakchih - Posted on April 19, 2003 - 21:04:16 (#6947)
Current version when comment was posted: nightly |
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I haven't tried Firebird (cause fyysik's stripzilla is very good for me :) but there should be an option to turn off autocompletion.
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