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The russiab site worked...
 By nutela - Posted on March 7, 2006 - 05:28:08   (#19160)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
but it has 3.1beta or something. I believe you don't need a license, it's freeware ! : ))

IS BeOS 5 PE Max Edition V3 free for individual,company and school?
 By EUFO - Posted on March 7, 2006 - 02:14:08   (#19157)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Now I can download it from http://www.bebits.com/bob/17828/BeOS5PEMaxEditionV31b1.zip
Do I have to get a licence to run it.
And I don't known how to install it.I know I can seach the answers in the net,but it's new experience for me to explore in the English world,also ,it's difficult.So give me some ideas or links.
Thank you.

BeOS Max forums
 By -Meanwhile- - Posted on March 6, 2006 - 19:35:46   (#19155)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Check out the new BeOS Max forums for any issues you may have. It has no files for download and BeOS Max is no longer being developed/supported, but it may serve as a more convenient place for Max users to ask and help out.

http://beosmax.org/forums/index.php?c=6

Help needed.
 By Setlec - Posted on March 6, 2006 - 17:42:17   (#19153)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Hi i'm looking for the the zip file of the beOS max v3.0 i can't download from the bebits link (badlink) how to burn the Beos PE MAX v3.1 beta?
Is still some of you online trying to help Newbies???

Re: Mortan
 By nutela - Posted on March 3, 2006 - 09:59:28   (#19124)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
I recognize your frustrations but the simple anwser is; BeOS is not so popular (as Linux). I'd really like to know how many active online users there are who regularly use BeOS, I estimate there are no more then 200 such users. Maybe there are more Zeta users, try www.yellowtab.com or bittorrent ; )

mmadia thanks for the IRC info! Was looking for that, didn't expect to find it here : ) !

Bad
 By FireDog - Posted on September 16, 2005 - 17:54:17   (#17733)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
bad servers links....

re: motan
 By mmadia - Posted on August 24, 2005 - 18:41:06   (#17543)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
BeOS Max is *NOT* an official Be Inc., version of BeOS; it is created, maintained, and supported by a 3rd party who built it from BeOS PE (Personal Edition) http://bebits.com/app/2680

BeBits does not locally host files. It is simply a common place for developers to inform the public of BeOS software and for end users to leave comments for said software. As such, dead links are an unfortunate reality of not only this site, but the internet at large.

Here are some additional ways of finding "dead link" software:
-google the filename (viewable in the status bar while hovering the download button)
-log in to a BeShare* server using either
BeShare for BeOS: http://bebits.com/app/1330
JavaShare for any Java enabled OS: http://bebits.com/app/2795
-use the Interet archive: http://www.archive.org

*BeShare is a good place for getting answers for BeOS troubles. #beos and #haiku at irc.freenode.net is another good place for BeOS discussions.

Vision, http://bebits.com/app/2623 , is my personal choice for IRC software on BeOS.

And yes, the v3.1b zipfile served on the russian site is in english.

It is impossible to get the BeOS Max Edition from http://www.bebits.com/app/3148#download and/or from sourceforge.net
 By motan - Posted on August 24, 2005 - 17:55:54   (#17541)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
It is impossible to get the BeOS Max Edition from http://www.bebits.com/app/3148#download and/or from sourceforge.net; this is the summary of my message.
I also could have titled it : "is there also somebody working for Microsoft ?"
If you want to know why, read the following.

As your downloading buttons from the page http://www.bebits.com/app/3148#download, send to sourceforge.net (exceptiing the last one that connects to a site from Rusia, that starts immediately without any further complication, but from which the version offered could be in Russian maybe), I understood that I had to register to sourceforge.
Which I did, passing through a very long process, receiving, by e-mail a secured address through which I had to reconnect, extremly slowly, refill some other forms and eventually receiving the final confirmation.
Very long the whole process and complicated by the very slow secured connection.

Still, after all that I couldn't download the BeOS Max Edition from any of your buttons of the page http://www.bebits.com/app/3148#download (each sending to sourceforge, of course):

The buttons:
Primary - Download - V 2.1 and
Primary - Download - V 3.0
generated blank pages saying that "couldn't create the file";

even worse, the button named Multi - Part (RAR) Downloads denied my access (on sourceforge.net)saying that I am not allowed to access that page (for downloading), and all this after having logged properly and recognized as a user on their site;

The button BeArchive Team Mirror Project on your page is a dead link. I tried to report that but my password or user name (whatever) have not been "recognized"; I had to generate another pass, received it at my e-mail and afterwards, after many trials, I succeed in reaching this page ...

The only button that looked to function, by the mere process of downloading that starts immediatelly - as usually happens everywhere else on the net -, was that from Russia (but again, one does not know whether it is a Russian version only after 7-8 hours of downloading - maybe finally it is, as one should ironically expect).
In fact, why this difference: from the Russian site a direct download and in the case of the rest, such a complicated detour ? Is the Russian version less important, at least from a so-called security point of view ? Because it is in Russian (maybe) ?

What more/else to do then ?
Hope that you'll bring a necessary remedy to all this maybe ?

Confronted with all this strange behaviour of your site and politics of downloading, one can ask him/herslef a lot of questions ...

After wasting so much time an energy, I can not prevent from questioning: why all this complication and not an imediat starting download when the button is clicked (as the one from Russia) ? It is complicated ? I don't think so.

It looks that it is as if, it is not enough that this promissing OS (that "had a great future", as they say), knew such an injust and sad fate; to make things even harder, the mere access to it is made impossible ...
One could say that everything is as if it is done on purpose (or what ?) ...

Actually, is it so difficult to keep the BeOS Max Edition (or any other version) on a decent server for downloads that would start immediatelly ? A very modest PC could do that without problem ...

How is it possible for so many other sites to get the job done ? For instance, take a look at Kubuntu site, a distro of Linux, where everything is so easy, tidy, and maintained by only a person : http://www.linuxshop.de/shop/catalog/shipping.php?language=us
If it is more simple to sell the discs, like they do, at a modest price though, than just do so ... How come everything is possible for other similar Open source OSes, and just for yours not ? Don't they encounter difficulties too ?

As a fact, is it absolutelly necessary to pass the very simple downloading of a file to sourceforge, that imposes a very complicated process and making it, above all, impossible ?

Actually the whole problem comes down to this, really: DO YOU WANT THE PEOPLE TO OBTAIN AND KEEP ALIVE YOUR OS OR NOT ? Maybe you don't anymore ...
But if the answer is yes, then if not facilitate the process of obtaining it, at least simply don't put impossible barriers between it and those people of good will.

I visited a lot of forums concerning BeOS, believe me, and I met a lot of frustration concerning exactely this: the mere (im)possibiliy itself of getting this OS ...
Actually, are you not aware of this, don't you receive any feedback concerning this, or if such a feedback is received there, is there still somebody to read it ? And if the feedbacks are read, can you still do something about it anymore ? To make it possible for people who want to still get your BeOs I mean ...
Don't you think that encountering such difficulties any good will can give up at a certain point ? Is this that you want ? Or is this a test ?
What's the reason behind all this ? Is there a hidden strategy of the availability of your OS ?


Very, very pity, honestly.


A very dissapointed (has been) potential user of BeOS ...
Of course, I don't expect any answer from you, I just let my whole frustration, of a whole day, go, like this, no where ...


Network device failed to initialize!!!!!
 By trellis - Posted on May 1, 2005 - 13:53:05   (#16467)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Using Linksys Etherfast10/100 pci adapter can't get it to work . Tried changing PCI slot is this a made for windows card?

And other formats?
 By Nicker - Posted on March 12, 2005 - 12:19:43   (#16118)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
And what is with JPG, MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files?

It works on Athlon
 By MYOB - Posted on March 10, 2005 - 13:11:34   (#16108)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Intel == X86

No, Windows apps are NOT working on BeOS. They're Windows apps, as the name would suggest....

What's with Athlon
 By Nicker - Posted on March 10, 2005 - 12:34:31   (#16107)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
I want to download the Max version, but it says that it runs only under Intel procesors. What's with AMD Athlon 2000XP+ please e'mail me nicker_equinian@yahoo.com

Oh and one more question: Are the EXE (windows) aplications working on it?

Wont boot after setup!
 By abcxyz - Posted on February 26, 2005 - 05:21:05   (#15978)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
It installes. I reboot and the box flashes. Then the screen goes blank apart from a _ . Any help?

PS. I have tryed again after unpatching the kernel and still no luck

Note about floppy
 By abcxyz - Posted on February 22, 2005 - 13:54:14   (#15935)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Under some systems you will need to use the floppy from the original BeOS 5 PE

BeOSmax does not boot on ISA systems
 By abcxyz - Posted on February 14, 2005 - 03:20:15   (#15848)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Just fiddling around with bochs and qemu one last time. yes I know I should find a old 1gb hard disk and boot and install but I found that when I tell QEMU to boot as a ISA only system it does the same thing as Bochs, gets to the disk icon and crashes. Can we have some ISA support added? Also QEMU crashes on 2nd to last icon. I think it is the boot floppy. I am downloading BeOS 5 PE and checking if the floppy boots it up into setup. I will post here if the IdeReplFloppy needs changing. Final note: When it gets to the last icon the debugger appears giving no errors. The only bit that might be useful is that it mentions the bootscript on the CD

ohh, heres the second one...
 By chuckctv - Posted on January 10, 2005 - 19:28:37   (#15367)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
ohh, heres the second one...

man these took 2 days to find...

BeOS5 PE MaxEdition V3.0

www.au.horde.org/pub/beosmax/BeOS5PEMaxEditionV3.zip

* copy and paste to browser *


heres the deal answer 2 questions and ill post 2 locations for download
 By chuckctv - Posted on January 10, 2005 - 19:24:20   (#15366)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
im downloading as we speak and i found 2...

questions one (does max ver 3.1) offer ability to boot using any type of boot loader without floppy/cdrom, im dual booting xp/msdos and want to ad beos as a choice only.

question two (max ver3.1) is their any drivers to use my wireless 802.11b USB linksys network unit?

chuck

* just to show good faith, heres the 1st download location...

BeOS5 PE MaxEdition V3.1

http://beos.spb.ru/program/118/BeOS5PEMaxEditionV31b1.zip


Mirrors
 By unixpenguin2004 - Posted on January 10, 2005 - 16:49:25   (#15361)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
We need a 3.0 mirror NOW!!! =D

Problem with Deskbar...
 By car@y - Posted on January 3, 2005 - 04:06:18   (#15257)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
After updating from BeOS MAX 2.1 to 3 with the mini update everithing loads OK-including the Deskbar-but the Deskbar stays frozen!If I terminate the process and try to restart the Deskbar it shows as a process with Ctr+Alt+Del but Ijust can't see it! I tryed the prev version of Deskbar+Traker+libtraker.so but the same thing
goes on! ok desktop, OK Traker but NO Deskbar visible!
Did Vasilis developed an invisible one! Hehehe...

File systems and mirrors
 By abcxyz - Posted on December 6, 2004 - 12:25:23   (#14971)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Yes... I am using the dreded NTFS :-)
Hey! It could be worse. I could be using a Windows NextGen beta (thats the next windows ver aka longhorn that uses WinFS)
Enough about windows!
Can anyone put some more mirroring sites up as I dont want the beta (it screwed up the active partition on my qemu hdd)

Athlon XP
 By tb100 - Posted on December 5, 2004 - 09:17:32   (#14961)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
You can still run PE on an Athlon XP, you will just have to boot with mmu_man's XP-enabled floppy disk, and then edit the kernel_intel file.

http://clapcrest.free.fr/revol/beos/AthlonXP_boot_floppy.zip

Or maybe you mean you can't do that because you have an XP NTFS drive and not FAT partitions.

If you want more help, I suggest taking the discussion to a forum (try www.begroovy.com), that's better for this kind of help than talkback.

Simon

Can't do that
 By abcxyz - Posted on December 5, 2004 - 00:57:45   (#14958)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Though I have a AthlonXP with the SSE set

abcxyz
 By tb100 - Posted on December 4, 2004 - 10:36:21   (#14953)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
If you have 500MB free on a windows FAT32 drive, you can run BeOS natively without any repartitioning - just try it with PE.

Playing with BeOS through an emulator completely misses the whole feel of the BeOS experience.

Simon

But!
 By abcxyz - Posted on December 4, 2004 - 00:46:34   (#14947)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
I have only got 2 hdds and I am using both for my games and I think I have better things to do then start fiddling around with modified discontinued OS's. It may also help if i had 3 hdds (about 12gb for the beos one)

Drivers
 By MYOB - Posted on December 1, 2004 - 12:38:07   (#14928)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
PE had very unagressive drivers for older hardware - Max Edition may or may not be using the IDE Replacemnt Driver which is probably to agreessive (fast) for Bochs, and other drivers may be doing the same

Bochs sucks, QEMU sucks, VMWare sucks. BeOS is just about usable in VPC but its not enjoyable. Use it on REAL HARDWARE.

Very Strange
 By abcxyz - Posted on December 1, 2004 - 12:12:58   (#14927)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
BeOS 5PE (official Be release) works fine but the Max ed does'nt work? any ideas

Anyone got a V3.0?
 By abcxyz - Posted on November 30, 2004 - 01:21:48   (#14896)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Anyone got a link for version 3.0 of max (dont like betas!)

Almost there (really)
 By abcxyz - Posted on November 28, 2004 - 08:57:03   (#14881)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
It is now working (just) So far it will only run in 640x480 greyscale and it is slow. When I run it in higher resolutions it crashes. Can anyone speed it up.
(I'll have a go with the installed image in Bochs)

Emulation
 By tb100 - Posted on November 28, 2004 - 07:41:20   (#14879)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
I've been playing with emulation a bit today (in windows). Managed to get QEMU to run BeOS in grayscale VESA, slow, and with no sound.

QEMU command line:
qemu.exe -L "C:\Program Files\Qemu\bios" -boot a -m 32 -fda "C:\Program Files\Qemu\R5 Distro\floppy.img" -hda "C:\Program Files\Qemu\R5 Distro\image.be" -localtime

I really don't know why anyone would choose to run BeOS in this way, but there ya go. I'm playing a bit with bochs now.

Almost forgot
 By abcxyz - Posted on November 28, 2004 - 06:57:09   (#14878)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
It is impossible to change the speed of it from the bios. All you can do is change the IPS. The bios has no setup screen. It doesn't need it because of the config file. If anyone has got it running on Bochs and want to see the congig then just ask!

Re: abcxyz
 By abcxyz - Posted on November 28, 2004 - 06:55:28   (#14877)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
It is STILL im bochs
I have just topped the speed settings to 10000000 instructions per second and still no luck. It is not in safe mode (but I have tryed that and no luck) and when I start it up from Windows emulated and using the original PE) it just goes to the floppies and crashes trying to mount the image with the boot script and shell. I am not going to use VPC as it costs a heap (and my trial has already expired). If someone could give me the settings for QEMU it would be great. (Note to anyone who has slowness under bochs. Use QEMU as it is fast for REACTOS)

Re: abcxyz
 By tb100 - Posted on November 28, 2004 - 04:56:42   (#14876)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Is this in safemode?

Can you change the speed of the HDD in the bios? Are you still trying to use Bochs? I'm not sure if R5 works in Bochs, it definately does in Virtual PC 2004, and maybe in QEMU.

Got somewhere but still no luck!
 By abcxyz - Posted on November 28, 2004 - 03:34:47   (#14875)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
It now gets to the last icon (which looks like a BeBox) and crashes. The Kernal Debugger says that it is in RunInit2 23 or something like that (the 23 is correct). Can anyone help

Bad Mirrors
 By linuxknight2000 - Posted on November 22, 2004 - 09:19:17   (#14830)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Most of the listed mirrors are out of working order. Only the russian one works (v3.1), but is quite slow. If I have to I'll host it myself to aid in mirroring.

Still doesn't boot!
 By abcxyz - Posted on October 27, 2004 - 10:48:23   (#14551)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Same problem! Ive tryed SAFE MODE and I cant boot:

Straight from either image
Or the floppycd.img file

Re: Another bug
 By tb100 - Posted on October 24, 2004 - 07:39:26   (#14496)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Try holding down space during the boot and making sure the boot volume is selected as the CD.

The "bug" is more likely to be in Boch's CD emulation IMHO.

Yet another bug!
 By abcxyz - Posted on October 24, 2004 - 01:59:50   (#14491)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
I was trying to get it working on Bochs and it boots fine. It gets to the BeOS Boot screen and then it gets to the floppy disk and hdd picture and then it asks for the CD even though it is inserted. Should I try setting it to un-inserted at the start or WHAT? Could anyone help me as I must have this working!

To work on Bochs?
 By abcxyz - Posted on October 23, 2004 - 08:44:38   (#14483)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
I will be getting this BRILL OS to work on Bochs soon but there is one thing I need to know.

1. Will the installer install onto my hosts C even if i have a virtual C set up

2. How mutch HDD will it take?
Coul anyone answer these?

I fund it here.
 By pfarrhaus3 - Posted on October 6, 2004 - 04:17:57   (#14331)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/sourceforge/c/cr/crux/



ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/sourceforge/c/cr/crux/BeOS5PEMaxEditionV3b2.zip

Magnet link
 By beos3 - Posted on September 3, 2004 - 10:19:05   (#14100)
 Current version when comment was posted: 3.0
Here is a magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:ed2khash:fbd3ee30f06aec18d7d74ec976c98fa5&dn=BeOS5PEMaxEditionV31b1.zip

And for the emulers:
ed2k://|file|BeOS5PEMaxEditionV31b1.zip|329316604|fbd3ee30f06aec18d7d74ec976c98fa5|/

f**k the anonmyous poster on sourceforge
Hope vasper makes a new max and good luck on finding a host (if you decide to carry on that is)
-beos3

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