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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on July 29, 2006 - 02:56:00 (#20233)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2.5 |
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search 'BONE' and install that, then use bochs.
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| Better yet, know where I can find a pre dano version |
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By Zutecool - Posted on July 28, 2006 - 23:53:04 (#20232)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2.5 |
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Better yet, know where I can find a pre dano version?
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| Now missing libbind.so |
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By Zutecool - Posted on July 28, 2006 - 22:44:28 (#20231)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2.5 |
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On the money, natural 5.0. Used the latest libpak. Symlinked libsdl_net.so as libsocket.so. Now missing libbind.so.
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| Missing lib - That's version for BeOS BONE/Dano/Zeta |
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By s_d - Posted on July 28, 2006 - 19:27:31 (#20230)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2.5 |
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Seems you're using plain R5.
Try to find lib libnet.so, create symlink from that and rename that link to libsocket.so. In some rare cases it helped
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| Getting missing library error |
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By Zutecool - Posted on July 28, 2006 - 18:51:09 (#20229)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2.5 |
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Getting missing library error. Looking for libsocket.so. Can't seem to find it on the net anywhere. Help! I used to have it working.
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| don't know what to do |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on June 13, 2005 - 21:25:57 (#16872)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2b |
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hey this is the first time I used the program. I clicked on the bebochs icon , it seems at it launches from there but instead the file named 'launch' why is that?
also when I choose start simulation i just get a black screen and i can't do anything.
Mr X
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| Booting other partitions |
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By mmlr - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 08:51:25 (#16832)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2b |
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It, is in theory, possible to boot another partition / harddisk but it's not recommended for various reasons. I was able to boot BeOS (most of the applications crash or hang though) from my real harddrive by setting the device to the actual device in the /dev tree (/dev/disk/ide/ata/0/master/0/raw). Using a partition (0_1) directly does not work.
Don't do this unless you backed up your data and never ever boot into a mounted partition as this will most likely corrupt the filesystem on it. Another problem is that you specify the device with cylinder / head / sector parameters, which only allow 32GB (65535 cylinders, 16 heads and 63 sectors per block). Though you can boot into any partition that does not cross the 32GB border (in my case the first two partitions on the disk). Beware, it's risky.
If you're looking for the best guest os I would recommend Windows XP. If you disable all the design fluff and deactivate all the services you don't need, it is fairly usable and responsive. Since it also supports the HLT instruction the idle patch works with it and you can leave it running in the background without it eating your CPU. It takes ages to install (4-10 hours) and takes 2-5 minutes to boot up, but it's more usable than Windows 98 I'd say. This is on a 3GHz P4 though, don't expect it to be usable on anything much lower.
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| net_server version works Thanks |
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By hey68you - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 07:30:03 (#16830)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2b |
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Thanks, its working now I just need a good image file for Windows or Linux.
Can I use BeBochs to launch an OS on another partition?
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| Re: crash |
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By axeld - Posted on June 8, 2005 - 07:16:30 (#16829)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2b |
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I'm using Dano, and it crashes immediately when I press one of the cursor keys (of course, I booted into Haiku, but it already happens at the very start).
I just tested under R5, and there, it doesn't crash.
segment violation occurred
bx_keymap_c::getBXKeyName(unsigned long):
getBXKeyName__11bx_keymap_cUl:
+001a 800f32fe: * 10048b movl (%eax,%edx,1), %eax
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| Crashs and net_server |
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By mmlr - Posted on June 7, 2005 - 21:19:46 (#16825)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2b |
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Sorry but I couldn't reproduce the crash at all. What did you boot into when you got the crashs?
About the locked input devices: The b release should be better in that respect. It doesn't use the input_server add-on anymore and does not lock the input when crashing / configuring / alerting. The b release does also work under net_server.
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| Crash with BeOS keymap |
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By axeld - Posted on June 7, 2005 - 09:30:16 (#16822)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2 |
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When you press any cursor keys, Bochs will crash when you're using the Be interface and the BeOS keymap.
This is especially annoying when Bochs grabbed the mouse at that point, as you need a remote connection in order to kill Bochs (as it's being debugged by default, of course).
Is there any way to make it stop discarding mouse/keyboard events in this case?
It would be nice to have a key sequence that worked in that case without having a running Bochs.
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| It probably will |
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By mmlr - Posted on June 6, 2005 - 09:34:19 (#16807)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2 |
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I just didn't check wether it does or not. I currently have no net_server installation, but I can sure make some room for one and recompile it.
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| Will BeBochs 2.2 run on net_server R5.0.3 ? |
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By hey68you - Posted on June 6, 2005 - 09:29:17 (#16806)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2 |
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Will BeBochs 2.2 run on net_server R5.0.3 ?
I get a missing symbol error.
Thanks.
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| Great news |
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By mmlr - Posted on June 6, 2005 - 09:17:43 (#16805)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2 |
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Nice to hear that Haiku's working. I did try, but with my current image something seems broken. It get's into KDL (onscreen debug console is working at least) after trying to replay the BFS log.
How to get out: Depending on the GUI you can either middle-click (BeOS) or ctrl-middleclick (SDL) to get the mouse back or you can hit ctrl-alt-del once. This will release the input_server add-on.
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| Haiku app_server running |
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By axeld - Posted on June 6, 2005 - 08:48:37 (#16804)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.2 |
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And the best part of it, thanks to the fixed FPU, Bochs can now boot Haiku into the app_server, even the mouse works. Thanks Michael!
BTW how am I supposed to get out of Bochs (with mouse enabled) once it's running?
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| New version coming up |
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By mmlr - Posted on June 4, 2005 - 06:07:03 (#16797)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.1.1 / 2 |
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I'm currently working on the BeOS native GUI of the new Bochs release (2.2) and will release a new package as soon as I got it up to par with the other GUIs (the statusbar is currently missing). It already works fine, is just missing some things. I was also able to fix the mouse problems so that the mouse should be at least more or less useable. Subjectivly judging the new version is way quicker than any of the previous ones and has support for the cirrus VGA extension.
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| okay.. |
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By OKKUFO - Posted on April 15, 2004 - 14:34:48 (#12060)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Hopefully other releases of DOSbox will be better then...
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| Windows |
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By tb100 - Posted on April 15, 2004 - 14:03:52 (#12058)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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If you want to play windows games, use windows. Any emulation will add a MAJOR speed hit. If we had a true virtual machine like VirtualPC on windows or plex86 for linux, speed might be better - but there is no such program for BeOS I'm afraid.
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| Other one then? |
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By OKKUFO - Posted on April 15, 2004 - 10:31:23 (#12054)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Are there any other things I can use instead then? :|
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| No way in hell... |
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By MYOB - Posted on April 15, 2004 - 08:16:32 (#12050)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Bochs runs with 640x480x16 colours. Extremely slowly. You CANNOT play things like Counterstrike in it.
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| What about games? |
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By OKKUFO - Posted on April 15, 2004 - 08:13:18 (#12049)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Ok, thats really great, but will BeBochs be able to play games with an okay performance? If not - which other emulator do you recommend for me? I will mostly play games like counter-strike, WC3 and such...
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| Windows on Bochs |
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By mmlr - Posted on April 15, 2004 - 03:15:24 (#12043)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Installing Windows XP inside of Bochs will probably be a bit difficult if at all possible.
The bochs site does not give much information on installing Win XP as a guest operating system, but you may have a look at the bochs user manual (http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/guests.html)
Even if you are able to get it running, it will most probably not be usable, since the emulation is just too slow.
You could try a Windows 95 or 98 installation. It is not really usable either, but should be far easier to install and should be better supported by bochs.
The emulated PC in bochs is very slow. The only operating systems that I was able to really use were DOS and Windows 3.11.
I will soon publish the 2.1.1 version here with a renewed native BeOS GUI that is less resource intensive than the SDL one (applied a long standing patch and reworked it almost completely again to support the new display resolutions of the recent bochs versions, made some tweaks and worked out some bugs). That may speed up things a bit...
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By OKKUFO - Posted on April 14, 2004 - 12:52:09 (#12030)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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| WinXP install |
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By OKKUFO - Posted on April 13, 2004 - 13:40:46 (#11996)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Hmm...Why can't I install my WinXP? I get through the part where the PC i loading all the files so that it can install them, and after this a "windows-bluescreen" comes up :( What am I supposed to do?
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| Bochs info |
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By Zaranthos - Posted on February 13, 2004 - 14:45:04 (#11054)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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here are the CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS and configuration options I use.
export CFLAGS='-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fexpensive-optimizations -fthread-jumps'
(not compatable with BeOS's gcc, won't build) -mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp'
export CXXFLAGS='-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fexpensive-optimizations -fthread-jumps'
(not compatable with BeOS's gcc, won't build) -mcpu=athlon-xp -march=athlon-xp'
./configure --enable-new-pit --enable-pci --enable-4meg-pages --enable-pae --enable-guest2host-tlb --enable-repeat-speedups --enable-icache --enable-global-pages --enable-host-specific-asms --enable-vbe --enable-mmx --enable-fpu --enable-cdrom --disable-sse --enable-all-optimizations --disable-plugins --with-sdl
--enable-ne2000 (currently won't build in BeOS with this enabled)
If you want more speed you can apply a patch I wrote that can be found here http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bochs-dev&m=107102032232464&w=2 (patch doesn't work with 2.1.1 and BeOS) bochs-data_xfer-speedup-patch_V2.0.1.diff
If you are using an x86 processor use the pipelined assembly patch that is in the patches directory.
Error when compiling when --enable-ne2000 used:
g++ -c -I.. -I./.. -I../instrument/stubs -I./../instrument/stubs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fexpensive-optimizations -fthread-jumps -Wno-multichar -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES `sdl-config --cflags` eth_tap.cc -o eth_tap.o
/boot/home/bochs/bochs-2.1.1/iodev/eth_tap.cc:96: sys/poll.h: No such file or directory
/boot/home/bochs/bochs-2.1.1/iodev/eth_tap.cc:106: asm/types.h: No such file or directory
/boot/home/bochs/bochs-2.1.1/iodev/eth_tap.cc:107: linux/netlink.h: No such file or directory
/boot/home/bochs/bochs-2.1.1/iodev/eth_tap.cc:108: linux/if.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [eth_tap.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/boot/home/bochs/bochs-2.1.1/iodev'
make: *** [iodev/libiodev.a] Error 2
[2/13 13:44] (1069) Monni@WinXP: #ifdef the #includes out and look what functions it needs ;)
[2/13 13:45] (1069) Monni@WinXP: then run hgrep with them and add the files for just BeOS ;)
[2/13 13:46] (1069) Monni@WinXP: same with #defines it might need and others
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| What about using a real HD? |
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By victor.domingos - Posted on July 17, 2003 - 04:21:10 (#8209)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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What if I created a partition for running windows in Bochs? Would it speed up the process, or would it be the same?
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| Yes, it is quite slow |
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By mmlr - Posted on July 16, 2003 - 08:17:25 (#8196)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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I am running BeBochs 2.0.2 on a Athlon XP 3000+ and it took about 12h to complete the Win98 setup. Boot time is not that bad (in fact Win98 in a BeBochs session boots faster than my Win XP does nativly on this machine).
But you probably won't reach "usable speed" unless you have a really, really fast machine (and a supported graphics card since VESA slows down the whole thing extremely).
Speed and especially compatibility has been improved in newer versions, but I think for most tasks it is still far to slow. If you want to use a ms-dos or text based linux for example that's no problem but anything grafical is simply slow.
Sorry about the bad news, I wish it would be different, but I think win4be/wine is a better approach to get a windows program running in BeOS than emulating a whole computer.
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| re: About Win98 inside Be(Bochs)... |
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By Diver - Posted on July 16, 2003 - 07:01:04 (#8195)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Hi, victor.domingos.
I tired 2 years ago with version 0.5 and it take me the same 48 hours to install windows98 (Celeron 333Mhz with 265MB RAM on R5.0.4), but when i finally install it and tired to boot it i have blue scree of death there, so i installed windows95 (about 8 hours IIRC) it boots fine (3-4 min), but worked slowly.
I didn't tired new versions of BeBochs scice that time, but i really wonder if it still take the same 48 hours to install windows98, i hoped that this would be much faster now. Guess not :(
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| About Win98 inside Be(Bochs)... |
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By victor.domingos - Posted on July 16, 2003 - 06:33:30 (#8194)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Hi!
I have been configuring BeBochs (I am not sure about wich version...) for a Win98 installation in a 700Mb disk image file. I've managed to do it and (after 48 hours) I have already passed the "Copying files" stage.
I am running BeOS 5 in an AMD k-6-II (400Mhz) with 96Mb RAM. It seemed a bit slow to me. Are there BeBochs versions that are faster than others? Wich one would be faster? Is it really possible to run Windows 98 under BeOS at a usable speed? (I wonder how long will take win98 to boot in bochs, when I finnish installing it...)
Has anyone tryed this?
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| Re: Plex86 |
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By mmlr - Posted on March 5, 2003 - 18:28:18 (#6214)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Well, this is just a BeOS compiled version of the source-code available at bochs.sourceforge.net, I just made a few minor adjustments to get it compiled. I do not add functionallity to the source, so if the people at the bochs project decide to implement Plex86 functions it will be available here too, otherwise it won't.
You could ask for it in the bochs mailing list or discussion boards.
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| Plex86 |
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By tqh - Posted on March 4, 2003 - 02:32:27 (#6181)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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It seems Plex86, the open source version of Vmware is taking a different route and integrate more with BeBochs.
Are there any plans to try and add that functionality to BeBochs (x-86 version)?
Reference: http://plex86.sourceforge.net/
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| Ok, deleteing them isn't the best solution |
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By mmlr - Posted on March 3, 2003 - 16:57:51 (#6178)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Maybe combining them under one "BeBochs Archive" entry would be better. Or I could list the older ones under this entry (just taking the description and links and reenter them under this entry as "alternate versions").
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| We need apps new and old |
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By jefro - Posted on March 3, 2003 - 16:39:41 (#6176)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 SDL |
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Yes, a lot of different versions of Bochs apps.
No! Please do not delete the "older" versions.
Many a time I needed an older app to get it working. Many a time I searched old zipped CD's to find a working app. I don't know what the solution is other than to rename each version like BeBoch's SDL and such. Or put in bold letters that other versions exist for those that didn't know more than one version exists.
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| To Many BeBochs out here |
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By mmlr - Posted on March 3, 2003 - 15:49:06 (#6175)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 |
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I just wrote an email to BeBits and asked them to remove the outdated versions. Hopefully the will understand the problem and do something against it.
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| Great, now there is a total of SIX Bochs distrobutions on BeBits |
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By Jace - Posted on March 3, 2003 - 14:09:42 (#6170)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 |
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I don't mean to bash your very helpful offering of the latest Bochs compiled for BeOS (THANK YOU!), but it is kind of annoying for people to search through SIX distrobutions of Bochs on BeBits in order to download the latest. The problem with many of these six is that you can't contact the people who posted them (they don't seem to exist any more!) to delete older ones or combine them all into one unified BeBits reference. [Sigh]
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| Re: BeBochs 2.0 works everywhere |
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By mmlr - Posted on March 3, 2003 - 10:27:23 (#6164)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 |
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Yes, you're right, sorry about that.
First it didn't run on my system at work but I rechecked that today and it did (maybe it was because of the SDL versions). I will compile a mixed version with SDL and native BeOS-GUI when I get home (SDL has keymap support and I think it's maybe faster).
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| Thanks, it works now perfect |
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By IgRussell - Posted on March 3, 2003 - 10:16:45 (#6162)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 |
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I do not know if its because or Zeta, Dano or what, but Bebochs 2.0 did not work on my Pro5, worked on my dano, and no idea about Zeta yet. This version runs on Pro now, so thank you very much
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| BeBochs 2.0 works everywhere |
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By hitech - Posted on March 3, 2003 - 09:56:50 (#6161)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 |
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Yes, BeBochs 2.0 published by YellowTab works with every version of BeOS R5 - including PE - and not only with Zeta or with BONE.
But anyway, thanks for the application!
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| OMG error out terror |
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By Jess - Posted on March 2, 2003 - 22:39:45 (#6156)
Current version when comment was posted: 2.0.2 |
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Heh - I just jumped in & tried to get it up & running quick.
I made the more prominat changes to my config & tried to install linux off a bootable CD. Just got errors. So I figured
I'd look at the error log to see what a mess my laziness caused... hmm I opened the text file... sure is taking a while. meanwhile my cpu use is at 100% all dedicated to my text editor... hmm /me checks the file size - Bochs created an 85MB error log... thats an impressive amount of text... Might want to warn people to make sure the error log don't soak up all thier disk space if they get an error or two ;) Other wise cool & thanks for the release. Just a funny thing to note.
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