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New page for Bme project

By Sir Mik - Posted on December 13, 2005 - 19:28:00 (#18592)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

as some of you may know, BeMSN was continued in the Bme project...a while ago I started from scratch and decided to host the Bme site on another server than the sourceforge servers...Currently, the new code isn't functional yet, so no releases too. All of you who are interested in this project can find the new page here:

http://bme.virtual-artists.org/

regards,

Tim

By ivanvalerian - Posted on December 5, 2005 - 02:22:40 (#18507)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

I'm begging for HTTP proxy support for next version! plzz! ;)

-Ivan

CryptLib : (

By nutela - Posted on August 5, 2005 - 12:30:43 (#17406)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

Doesn't work either, have also the libcl.so.3.1.0

Using netserver

By tb100 - Posted on February 6, 2005 - 10:50:21 (#15710)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

I meant libcl.so.3.1.0 - you should find a working version (for either BONE/dano or net_server) in the correct BeMSN download for your platform. Either put that into a global dir (/boot/home/config/lib), or a lib/ sub directory of the folder where your bme proj file is.

HTH
Simon

still get errors

By OKKUFO - Posted on February 5, 2005 - 20:57:07 (#15707)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

still get errors

cryptlib.so?

By OKKUFO - Posted on February 5, 2005 - 20:34:16 (#15706)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

I don't have the cryptlib.so file

Bulding Bme

By tb100 - Posted on February 5, 2005 - 20:23:58 (#15705)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

Basically you need to have cryptlib.so and cryptlib.h somewhere accessible (/boot/develop/headers for the cryptlib header and either put libcl.so into /boot/home/config/lib or just in a lib subdir in your Bme directory).

I think there are some header issues with dano (or at least BONE). MYOB pointed out this solution:
Add these 2 includes to your /boot/develop/headers/be/net/NetAddress.h
#include <in.h>
#include <in_addr.h>

If you are using plain R5 netwerver, those changes aren't necessary.

Installing BME?

By OKKUFO - Posted on February 5, 2005 - 19:47:53 (#15704)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

after pressing ALT+R I get soooo many errors and warnings....why?

By OKKUFO - Posted on February 5, 2005 - 19:13:05 (#15700)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

I want bme to work on my dano. Anyone know how to make cryptlib build on dano?

To Sir Mik & tb100

By Mahmoud - Posted on January 25, 2005 - 02:44:04 (#15552)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

Thanks for your help...I have got a new AMD64 system that refuses to run BeOS, but I'll try what you said as soon as I put my old machine together.

By tb100 - Posted on January 24, 2005 - 19:10:15 (#15551)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

I also encountered your error after reinstalling my entire system. I discovered the problem was not having the GIF translator installed - you can get it off BeBits.

We will convert the status icons to png shortly so it should work straight from CVS without the GIF translator soon.

RE: cryptlib error

By tb100 - Posted on January 23, 2005 - 12:25:30 (#15525)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

Did you download the BONE version? You'll need that one for Neo - the BONE and net_server cryptlib builds are a little different.

It sounds like a cryptlib error - maybe Tim (SirMik) would send you the cryptlib he's using, as I use R5 netwerver here.

Simon

SSL error (cryptlib ?)

By kapelrud - Posted on January 21, 2005 - 21:15:27 (#15500)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.6

I'm running zeta neo SP1 and I get an error message when I try to sign in:

"Failed activation the SSL session"

any ideas?

By Sir Mik - Posted on December 12, 2004 - 10:37:50 (#15025)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Very weird,

this code seems to work allright here! when did you download the code from CVS? And another question: did you change anything in the iconprefs.txt file in: /Bme/icons? are there any icons in /Bme/icons/status? Seems that the Status object that has to be archived is a NULL pointer if I understand it correctly. This should not happen...anyway I would like to know more about this! Thank you for reporting this.

Also look in boot/home/config/settings if there's a Bme directory there...it should be a directory and not a file anymore: previous versions of Bme stored the Bme prefs file directly in the directory above, it now stores this file in boot/home/config/settings/Bme...if this file is still in /boot/home/config/settings it causes a crash!

regards,

Tim

still being developed

By Ram - Posted on December 12, 2004 - 09:33:32 (#15024)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

BMe was released too soon by mistake. please wait for the official release ...

It builds, it runs, then it crashes...

By Mahmoud - Posted on December 11, 2004 - 23:02:28 (#15023)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

First, thanks a lot guys for your efforts...There's been great progress since the last version I've seen. Unfortunately, I can only judge from the screenshots! I'm running BeOS 5 Pro + BONE, and after solving all build problems in Bme & cryptlib, Bme just crashes with a segmentation fault as soon as it starts:
segment violation occurred
Status::Archive(BMessage *, bool) const:
Archive__C6StatusP8BMessageb:
+00ac 8003abd0: * 08788b movl 0x00000008(%eax), %edi

and here's the stack crawl:
frame retaddr
fcffc0c4 8004d923 MainWindow::makeOfflineView(BRect) + 000004f3
fcffc1b4 8004bc90 MainWindow::MainWindow(BRect) + 00000dd0
fcffc334 8002f922 BmeApp::BmeApp(void) + 00000442
fcffc5b4 800315f5 main + 00000025
fcffc704 8002de05 _start + 00000061

Hope you can help me on this, and thanks again.

Building on BONE

By Jess - Posted on November 30, 2004 - 01:41:08 (#14892)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Well then, MYOB showed me how to get this thing to work after months & months of frustration.

So for any one that's had the same issues as me, & there have been a few.
Add these 2 includes to your /boot/develop/headers/be/net/NetAddress.h
#include <in.h>
#include <in_addr.h>
Build & your off, just make sure you have the cryptlib installed & the cryptlib.h in your /boot/develop/headers directory.

Busy integrating emoticons

By Sir Mik - Posted on November 25, 2004 - 10:38:15 (#14854)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

As you may have noticed from Simon's screenshot, we're currently busy integrating emoticons...I've made a grid window to choose emoticons from(like msn has) and the contact list does already have emoticons...also Rémi Grumeau of Beosfrance has been busy making our own emoticon set(copyright reasons) that look very nice...

regards,

Tim

integrate smilys?

By Spino - Posted on November 25, 2004 - 08:48:29 (#14853)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

wondering if its hard to integrate smilys like real msn?

that whould be nice :P

CVS

By tb100 - Posted on November 11, 2004 - 20:05:06 (#14714)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Yeh, should build without a problem from cvs if you have cryptlib somewhere accessible.

I'm currently devoting a bit more of my time to fixing some stuff up for a good firefox 1.0 release, hence the lack of progress.

Just to prove I have been doing something though:
http://si-msn.port5.com/Newconv.png

Simon

Builds fine here

By MYOB - Posted on November 11, 2004 - 18:56:41 (#14713)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

CVS as of last night, cryptlib built from 3.10 source on net_server. No changes needed.

You need Cryptlib installed

By MYOB - Posted on November 11, 2004 - 18:48:48 (#14712)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

And it needs to have all its headers in the right place (/boot/home/config/include/cryptlib/)

The build process isn't explained well, but last time I checked it built on R5. Not on Dano, which I better fix again...

By Jess - Posted on November 11, 2004 - 18:46:59 (#14711)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

has any one got the CVS to build? I've been trying for a few months now off & on. It never seems to find cryptlib.h among many other things & just dies.

I think there is a split here...

By Jess - Posted on September 3, 2004 - 00:07:04 (#14092)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

I think there is a split in "names" adding to the problem here. The dif between the remaining BeMSN & BME, thats why I asked when this will be changed to BME, because I was of the understanding BeMSN was going to be dropped (name wise) & the code merged with BME, using BME as the name from that point on.

I can't remmber who I sent the icon to because it was quite a while ago but I asked if you guys needed any graphic work done. You can see the BeMSN icon I offered at this url:
http://24.72.51.84/trans/screens/New_Be_Icons2.jpg
as well as other icons.

I think over the past 5 years having an MSN client was one of THE most needed things for Be aside from a decent web browser which the reformed Mozilla team has IMO turned around big time. So I think progress reports, time willing, would really be apprecaited.

I'm not sure where your project fits in now with the IM kit but my attempts at getting the IM kit running failed. I saw there was a fix of the issue I was having but opted to wait till the next release whenever that might be, but really the BME project is the one I'm focused on & want to see come to light.

My qualm about the whole CVS thing as I saw it on the site might be from a lack of understanding a few things about dealing with projects in CVS. In any case I figure it would be nice to simply release test builds you guys make even if only weekly or monthly for people to test certain things if you wanted them tested as opposed to inviting people to war with CVS.

It's the BME's call as you know how best to manage your project but would be cool to see the builds your doing personally as I'm sure you guys test things yourself before each commit. I mean it's been a bit over 6 months since anything new was released for people to play with. Could you at least release a version that doesn't crash when some one tries to send you a file or start the voice chat or webcam services?

And more...

By tb100 - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 21:18:05 (#14089)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

And about the icon -

I never heard about that offer. Thanks!

Actually, we could use some graphics doing - especially status icons (the current ones are 16x16, but with emoticons in the contact list they look a bit small).

If anyone can whack up some status icons that are 19x19, we'd appreciate it a lot :D

Simon

Jess

By tb100 - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 21:13:40 (#14088)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

The thing that annoyed me at the end of the interview was your comment about Trillian having done a deal with MS, when given a chance to respond I would have posted a link to the list of clients that would be allowed on the network after Oct 15, definately not including Trillian (don't have the link anymore, before anyone asks :D). Still, don't worry about it too much, I appreciated your interest in the project and the fact you wanted to find more about it and report that to everyone.

In response to your other points, we are not asking people to compile from CVS. The idea is that BeMSN will be the stable, binary installable client for MSN while we work on Bme. I agree that the BeMSN available here has problems, and hopefully the BeMSN I have built with our latest network code will be better for most people. It should be released at the weekend, fingers crossed.

I share your annoyance at UNIX apps that are distributed only as source - rest assured that when we have something we want people to use, we will distribute it as a binary.

Until we're happy with Bme, we won't release it - however we hope to make it easy enough for people who are interested to have access to it. To do this, we need to get CVS cleaned up and improve our building instructions, I agree. When the current new features are cleaned up I will consider making a binary release, but don't hold your breath. I don't want to fall into the trap of many open source projects that have a functional 0.1 release that means users are happy enough not to complain too loudly and devs have no motivation to improve it further. Bme is going to get to 1.0 even if it takes another year of people saying "where's the binary release?"!

Simon

MYOB

By Jess - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 21:04:57 (#14087)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Hey,
missed your reply before. I'm not gonna fool with it. I try to aviod building stuff on here most times because it defeats the purpose for me & this machine is slow. I tried building Frozen Bubble a bit ago & had it die too, probably from the header issue you mention on BONE. I've not kept up with development issues for a while now. Hell I haven't even had time to play games in most cases as of late to unwind or relax.

Any how stuff like this is really a downer. I just wanna be able to do stuff outside of Windows. I get a few moments, check bebits or try things out & seem to see much more software that's unuseable then useable these days.

Any how I don't want to squabble over intent, sorry I upset the BME dev's & what ever they crank out I hope people dig, I'm sure the community appreciates it.

It's just one of those days where I want to do stuff, stuff that does not involve debugging & fighting.

By Jess - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 20:47:26 (#14086)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Well as for the interview I don't think you could have took the end much more out of intent as my point was more about hoping the ability to connect would remain open based off what M$ said. You will also note if you have been following things that M$ originally said SP2 would be available to copied CD keys as it was more important to keep the internet safe & then retracted that & locked all pirated CD keys out of the update process.

I don't like half done releases either but there is been no word for quite a while & no new releases. Seeing the news blurb made me wanna check things out & I saw you had a page on trying toe CVS, so I did. The lack of releases & referance to getting people to try the CVS is fine but more & more people are getting asked to compile things & do this & that & it leaves at least myself feeling like I might as well be using *nix since I have to compile & pray most the time any how.

You may have also noted I even volunteered an icon for SVG use to your guys but I guess my attempts to contribute is note noteworthy, & you think I only tried to slag you guys in the interview. Sorry to upset you but it couldn't be much farther from my intentions.

Jess

By tb100 - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 20:15:31 (#14083)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

You appreciate our work in the same way as I appreciate your very poorly done interview with us (including adding a comment on the end basically saying "well I think you're wrong, and it's probably illegal" without ever giving us a chance to respond to it).

Personally, I don't like half-done releases. Current CVS builds have placeholders for stuff (user pictures, etc) and generally aren't very nice to use.

On my harddisk is a "final" BeMSN version, just being tested, that will hopefully fix most of the instability and network problems with this version.

I'm also currently working on CVS to clean it up and make building much easier.

Sorry if our completely voluntary work is not up to your expectations. I still hope to make R1 a superb app, although there are a lot of constraints on my time.

Simon

CVS

By MYOB - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 19:12:00 (#14079)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

To build on R5, change libbnetapi.so to libnetapi.so in Bme_x86.proj
To build on R5 with BONE, fix your headers. This is pretty well known, theres an <in.h> include broken in the headers
To build on Dano change <Path.h> to <storage/Path.h> in PreferencesWindow.h (I think)
To build on Zeta, do as above and add libzeta.so to the build
To build on BeOS/PPC, hack into my PPC and fix the remaining bugs in Cryptlib first :-)

By Jess - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 15:55:03 (#14075)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Just wondering if this page is ever going to be changed to BME & if we are going to get some updates or forever expected to do CVS builds that never actualy build? I appreciate the work but the work is useless to be now since CVS won't build & the messanger crashes so easy & lacks so many features I haven't used it in months.

By kvdman - Posted on May 21, 2004 - 16:05:22 (#12524)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Great news!

best wishes on the new release!

By Sir Mik - Posted on May 21, 2004 - 15:38:23 (#12522)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

This is just a post to let you all know, we are still working hard to get a new release out of Bme(new name of BeMSN). The network code has currently been improved and therefore the program is a lot stabler. Also we're doing a major UI upgrade, and after that I think we will release a beta version on our homepage: http://bme.sourceforge.net that also contains a guide to get the code from cvs,

regards,

Tim

By ryanknapper - Posted on May 3, 2004 - 01:15:58 (#12301)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Any chance this could be made into a shelf replicant, or otherwise viewable on every desktop?

re: messages not being received

By tb100 - Posted on April 4, 2004 - 09:46:45 (#11804)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

We have noticed that too. I'm currently working on a class that will allow us to see network traffic in real-time, hopefully that will let us iron out the last of the networking-related bugs.

messages not being received

By Franxico - Posted on April 4, 2004 - 09:03:33 (#11803)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Sometimes i don't receive a message and i'm not notified about that. That's really annoying, because the other person think i'm ignoring his/her message.

That's good news about the file transfer feature :)
Thanx,
François

Re: previous version was better

By edmundf - Posted on April 1, 2004 - 12:09:52 (#11774)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Try the previous version now...it will connect on 0 out of 10 attempts
LOL

Ok good to hear you working on it.

Re: previous version was better

By tb100 - Posted on April 1, 2004 - 11:22:09 (#11772)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Try the previous version now...it will connect on 0 out of 10 attempts.

Microsoft are currently changing their server-side code, it takes us a little while to catch up. There is a lot of work going on behind the scenes now though, we are working on a completely new UI, and filetransfer code.

previous version was better

By edmundf - Posted on March 31, 2004 - 22:25:01 (#11764)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

Fails to connect 9 out of 10. Pervious version did a little better. Like to see some improvements here.

Error Output

By eSc - Posted on March 28, 2004 - 00:08:10 (#11707)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.51

loading symbols
segment violation occurred
BMsnNSHandler::handleCHG(void):
handleCHG__13BMsnNSHandler:
+00e4 8002a984: * 08708b movl 0x00000008(%eax), %esi
BMsnNSHandler:sc
frame retaddr
fd041f9c 8002899b BMsnNSHandler::MessageReceived(BMessage *) + 0000032f
fd041fe8 ec16abb0 BLooper::DispatchMessage(BMessage *, BHandler *) + 0000007c
fd042000 ec168c49 BLooper::task_looper(void) + 0000029d
fd04228c ec16afa6 BLooper::_task0_(void *) + 00000036
fd0422a0 ec0851ed thread_start + 00000039
BMsnNSHandler:

My connection is cable 5mb (600+k/sec) down and 1mb (100+k/sec) up



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