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By pazani - Posted on December 21, 2003 - 21:15:33 (#10073)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.5a |
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I get a pop-up saying "Failed activating the SSL session".
Then it crashes and burns.
Mike J.
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| Fixed the problem with the @msn.com or any other than @hotmail passports |
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By taki - Posted on December 21, 2003 - 20:56:21 (#10072)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.5a |
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The sign-in process should now work with any passport acount. I created a new one for myself with my @yahoo.com email to test it. Download it again and try again to see if it works for you too.
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| Hotmail.com signs me in. |
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By bbjimmy - Posted on December 21, 2003 - 19:52:16 (#10071)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.5a |
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I set-up a hotmail.com address and the messenger signs me in.
The problem is all my contacts are on my msn.com address.
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By bbjimmy - Posted on December 21, 2003 - 19:21:08 (#10070)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.5a |
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I have an @msn.com passport and version 1.5a still does not sign me in.
using the same passport signs me in at hotmail.com and msn.com.
does it work for an @msn.com passport?
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| Great! |
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By ConneX- - Posted on December 21, 2003 - 13:01:06 (#10066)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.5a |
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GREAT work. I have been waiting for this. No IM problems anmore (I hope) :) The replicant is great also, and the ability to close down the app without having to close the MSN client! But do the "BeMSN" app name have to be in the Deskbar when it's closed down to the replicant?
Thanx for this great client! It's getting more beautiful every time!
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| Re: TryingBe |
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By tb100 - Posted on December 11, 2003 - 11:35:19 (#9952)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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If you're asking about my planned client - I now have a working SSL library on netserver (hint: it's not OpenSSL!), so I've started looking at getting the initial connection going, and reminding myself of the protocol from the last time I tried to write an MSN client. I do hope to have something capable of the very basics before the next uni term hits, but that is probably wildly optimistic.
Simon
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| Any update on the MSN messenger? |
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By TryingBe - Posted on December 5, 2003 - 17:01:59 (#9870)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Any update on the MSN messenger?
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| Re: Multi Protocol |
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By m_eiman - Posted on November 20, 2003 - 17:08:14 (#9690)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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I'm currently working on the IM kit. So far it's working nicely, even got an ICQ add-on working. It will be a little while before the kit is ready for general beta testing, but with a little effort it shouldn't take too long.
The initial features are:
* Tracker interation through People files (with indexing and a few added attributes handled by the kit you can query for things like people who are online, in certain groups, etc)
* Support for multiple protocols through add-ons
* One-on-one, protocol-independent conversations
* Logging of all messages
Hopefully you'll get to try it soon enough :)
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| Re: Multi Protocol |
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By Karina - Posted on November 20, 2003 - 15:55:10 (#9687)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Seems with BeOS, projects come and go, IM clients are supported for a while, then the developer departs or loses interest.
I see work being done here on BeMSN and there's Titer working away on his Yahoo! client which is cool too.
Maybe a team effort to get a multi im client together for Be would be an efficient use of talent and resources (and at least with a number of people working on it, support is likely to last). I know plenty of people would love to see it happen one day.
As for the IM Kit idea, to me it doesn't seem all that practicle/usable.
I think most of us would be happy with just something reasonably simple along the lines of Miranda under Windows (I find this a particularly good model) or Gaim under Windows and *nix... File transfers and so forth aren't really all that critical, there's always email, irc, ftp etc. I'm personally pretty happy as long as I can talk to my friends on MSN and Yahoo! emoticons are kinda nice too.
Just my thoughts.
Kari.
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| What about the mozilla-msn plug-in? |
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By TryingBe - Posted on November 15, 2003 - 06:21:40 (#9641)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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The Mozilla-MSN plug-in is a OS independ, as long as you can run Mozilla, you can use that program.
http://msnmsgr.mozdev.org/
Do you know of anybody that work on that program?
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| Re: multi-protocol |
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By tb100 - Posted on November 14, 2003 - 18:33:42 (#9637)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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This is really the wrong place to respond, but anyway...
I'm not sure if the "IM kit" idea is being worked on.
It might look cool - but thinking about it, it is not really a great idea.
For example how do you see/set your status? Sign in and out? Edit your screen name? Split contacts into groups?
Tracker works pretty well with MDR as organising emails is very similar to organising files. The same is true of static people files.
However when you have dynamically changing contacts, that you can interact with in a whole variety of ways (send email, start chat, block, view profile, etc, etc) then that doesn't really fit the file mataphor, and tracker makes a very poor job of being the app to organise all of that.
Messenging is a very separate concept to file management - so a separate messenging program is definately the way to go.
As for multiple-protocol, MSN is going to be the first thing we will implement, and will be the protocol we will base the majority of features on (file transfer, user backgrounds, custom emoticons, etc). We will probably design it in such a way that allows additional protocol support to be added too, but probably without any extra unique functionality from elsewhere (ie don't expect Yahoo's IMVironments).
However, multiple-protocol messengers throw up a usability problem:
do you implement a very basic client with only the basic functionality supported by all networks (which annoys people when features like filetransfer are missing)
OR
do you try to stick in every feature from every protocol, leading to inconsisties within the same program (user: "why can I send a file to myfriend@msn and not to mygeekyfriend@jabber?"), and a cluttered interface with parts that are completely non-applicable to the many users who only use one network?
If you've got any more comments, email me directly at simon taylor 2 at lycos dot co dot uk [without the spaces, obviously], or start a thread at beosjournal's or begroovy's forums, and I'll find it.
When we really start proper work we'll open up a website to allow everyone to leave comments, feature requests, and critism about the project.
We hope to involve some users (eg people who aren't actually writing the code) in a very real way throughout the development process, mainly with usability issues - testing mockups, suggesting improvements, new features, reporting bugs, etc. We hope to make the users actually part of the core team developing the project - helping us to keep the focus on the users throughout the development, stopping us cutting corners in the coding, dealing with interface and usability issues, and ensuring that the final release is one of the few high-quality, polished BeOS applications.
Interested? Send me a quick email saying as much.
Simon
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| Multi protocol? |
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By ealm - Posted on November 14, 2003 - 16:01:34 (#9634)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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The community really needs to collect its efforts in order to get a usable IM system.
A really good multi-protocol concept in form of a IM kit is being worked on(?) by Procton.
At least according to Koki in this thread: http://www.yellowtab.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=630&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15.
A concept mock-up here: http://beosimkit.sourceforge.net/
Linux have three open source multi protocol, module IM clients:
http://kopete.kde.org
http://gaim.sourceforge.net
http://sim-icq.sourceforge.net
//ealm
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| Re: What now |
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By tb100 - Posted on November 14, 2003 - 15:21:26 (#9632)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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I'm currently (slowly) working to pick up my abandonned MSN client again.
Someone emailed me who was interested in making a really good MSN client for BeOS, so we will be working together. Also we are going to involve the non-developers in the community as much as possible - we want to hear all your feature requests, great ideas, and criticisms on the mockups we will produce. Basically our aim is to create a truly fast, simple, yet powerful messenger app.
The first hurdle is getting SSL support in netserver going - that is being worked on. Once that's done, taki (if he's still around) will be able to update the login for BeMSN quite quickly. Meanwhile myself and Tim will continue developing the ultimate BeOS messenging experience!
We are starting from scratch, so don't expect anything quickly. You'll hear from us when we're ready to hear all of your fantastic ideas for how a good messenger program should work - get thinking about them now!
Simon
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| Re: What now? |
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By lentinj - Posted on November 13, 2003 - 22:40:59 (#9628)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Like someone mentioned earlier in this page, you can use Jabber For BeOS ( http://www.bebits.com/app/1866 ). The way jabber works is that the Jabber server translates between ICQ / MSN / Yahoo into native Jabber, your computer does not deal with these protocols at all.
So long as you use a jabber server that supports the new protocol, you are fine. I use jabber.earth.li with MSN and no problems.
There was a project Olmeki, to make a new jabber client for BeOS. Don't know what happened to that.
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| What now? :( |
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By Blomberg - Posted on November 13, 2003 - 19:25:16 (#9626)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Are there still people working on BeMSN?
Or is there an alternative for the BeOS, that uses this new protocol?
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| Taskbar |
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By kvdman - Posted on November 3, 2003 - 05:49:49 (#9456)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Is it possible to allow you to minimize your program to the tracker taskbar? Like in Windows?
Thanks
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| Quick explanation |
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By tb100 - Posted on October 29, 2003 - 15:41:50 (#9402)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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MSN now only accept connects with clients using MSNP8 or above to connect.
This client uses MSNP7, as that was the most understood and well documented on the net (http://www.hypothetic.org/docs/msn). Changes to MSNP8 (which would make it work) are relatively minor once connected - but the whole system for connecting now uses SSL (and I'm not sure how well openSSL on BeOS net_server works). Assuming we can get the SSL connection going on BeOS, it should be trivial to make the changes required. Provided somebody can find "taki", of course - otherwise I might have to pick up si-mSN again (http://si-msn.port5.com).
Jess - it isn't to do with blocking out non-licensed clients, it is simply that most third party clients used MSNP7, which is what was blocked. There is nothing in any of the protocols that would allow the server to know whether you were using MSN on windows or BeMSN on BeOS - as long as you use a client with a recent-enough protocol, you will be fine.
Simon
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| MSN have changed their protocols |
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By the_leander - Posted on October 28, 2003 - 23:13:21 (#9393)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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You'll note that there is an "upgraded" version of msn, which means that anything that doesn't have the updates to the protocols won't work, in this case, BeMSN will die every time you go to connect.
Yahoo does this periodically also (hence the recent update) but thus far I've not noticed this with either icq or aim... oh well, back to the drawing board...
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| crashes on launch |
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By sikosis - Posted on October 28, 2003 - 02:39:52 (#9380)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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When I try to run BeMSN now, I get the following errors
loading symbols
segment violation occurred
vfprintf:
vfprintf:
+12f2 ec072792: * 068b movl (%esi), %eax
w>BeMSN Messenger:
Does BeMSN use v8 of the MSN protocol ? That's how Miranda (Windows) got MSN support working again.
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| Re: Jess |
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By BioKillr - Posted on October 28, 2003 - 01:51:02 (#9378)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Jess said:
8<---snip--->8
As we have found most clients capable of SSL connections have been able to stay connected but while Jabber is fully capable of SSL connections in *nix & Windows it is no longer able to connect to the MSN network.
8<---snip--->8
I believe you are mistaken--I use Jabber for BeOS nearly every day (it's running right now and is connected to MSN), and after a couple of days without service, it is once again working with MSN--Yahoo! however is another story. I have intermittent outages for it, which I think is due to a similar situation, ie, a protocol change.
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| re: Drake |
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By Jess - Posted on October 25, 2003 - 08:50:43 (#9348)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Actualy your wrong. MSN blocked all clients not paying a lisence fee. As Microsoft stated it was both for security & for business reasons. It costs a lot of money to run an instant messaging network & as such they are blocking all non lisenced clients to prevent free leaching from the network they pay to maintain. As we have found most clients capable of SSL connections have been able to stay connected but while Jabber is fully capable of SSL connections in *nix & Windows it is no longer able to connect to the MSN network. In any case there is little reason to debate these things as the Be user base has no option but to change OS's if they really need access to the MSN Messenger service.
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| Windows is affected, too.. |
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By MYOB - Posted on October 24, 2003 - 13:58:13 (#9337)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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I used MSN 2.2 for connecting in Windows because the later versions are slow and probably packed with spyware - but it was locked out too
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| No it doesn't anymore |
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By ade - Posted on October 24, 2003 - 13:47:36 (#9336)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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or did I miss something... here on my PC it doesn't with 0.3.1
-A
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| yep.. |
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By fanskapet - Posted on October 24, 2003 - 12:38:56 (#9335)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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the MSN-plugin for MirandaICQ works fine.
http://miranda-icq.sf.net , i guess the sourcecode for the plugin is available too.
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| Lockout |
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By Drake - Posted on October 24, 2003 - 10:08:47 (#9333)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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As mentioned on plenty of other sites (and implied in my earlier post) this is not a lockout of third party clients it is a lockout of clients not using ssl connections and MSN protocol V9. This includes earlier versions of Microsofts own client, and is said to be for security reasons not licensing reasons. Even though technically you require a license from Microsoft to be told the new protocol, people will be able to snoop the protocol. Trillian and Gaim are not the only clients which have managed to include the neccessary work. Google around for info on the newer protocol.
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| As of Oct. 15th |
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By Jess - Posted on October 24, 2003 - 02:53:37 (#9328)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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As of October 15th Microsoft has blocked all out side Instant Messengers from their IM network. Trillian has access to the network still via a lisence & gaim has some how avioded the axe via some ssl work around as far as I can see. As for Jabber on all platforms & BeMSN there is no longer access.
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| very informative commandline ;P |
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By myyr - Posted on October 23, 2003 - 11:02:17 (#9323)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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/boot/apps/BeMSN/> BeMSN
>>> SHIT!
>>> SHIT!
>>> SHIT!
>>> SHIT!
>>> SHIT!
Connected: messenger.hotmail.com 1863
VER 1 MSNP7 MSNP6 MSNP5 MSNP4 CVR0
VER 1 CVR0
INF 2
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| only in windows |
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By fanskapet - Posted on October 23, 2003 - 10:06:45 (#9322)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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well.. it's just a change of their msn-protocoll?? im not a programmer but i know it's that it's not a platform issue.
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| Jabber Server still Work ? |
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By HippYBouH - Posted on October 23, 2003 - 01:46:19 (#9320)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Some Jabber Server still Work ? (amessage.de ...)
How can they do ?
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| Dont bother with BeMSN |
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By vasper - Posted on October 22, 2003 - 20:55:49 (#9318)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Microsoft has changed the Protocol to make it "safe". That means it now only runs on Windows (surpise, surprise) :-)
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| Crash on Log in. |
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By TryingBe - Posted on October 22, 2003 - 19:46:17 (#9316)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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loading symbols
segment violation occurred
_IO_vfprintf:
_IO_vfprintf:
+12f2 ec072792: * 068b movl (%esi), %eax
w>Sign in:
Any idea what it is?
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| it gives me an error...:( every time |
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By myyr - Posted on October 22, 2003 - 17:16:32 (#9314)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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loading symbols
segment violation occurred
vfprintf:
vfprintf:
+12f2 ec072792: * 068b movl (%esi), %eax
w>BeMSN Messenger:lo
I have pretty regular 5.03, no bone, opentracker, no localization...
Can anyone help?!
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| MSN protocol update. |
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By Drake - Posted on October 15, 2003 - 13:58:28 (#9232)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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chat.solidhouse.com has details on updated protocols.
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| High CPU |
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By h0n357tr011 - Posted on August 19, 2003 - 09:58:17 (#8552)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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Jabber is yet again down today due to the power outages & so I fired up BeMSN. After a few hours I noticed my CPU shot through the roof. Peeking at things via Process Controller showed BeMSN was eating clock cycles like a fat kid at a fast food resturant eat's crap he/she shouldn't.
- Cuz life isn't fun with out a politically IN-correct metaphore
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| PPC port |
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By fanskapet - Posted on July 26, 2003 - 21:55:08 (#8316)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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i would love to try make BeMSN compile on my PPC machine, if i could get the src that is... (i can't reach my PC at the moment so im forced to use my PPC)
Best regards Fanskapet
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| AND the signing in bug... |
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By ex-parrot - Posted on July 25, 2003 - 11:17:30 (#8313)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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It only seems to crash when people sign in if a lot of people are already signed in/you have a large list
segment violation occurred
ec062234: * 04718b movl 0x00000004(%ecx), %esi
Recibe NS:
got this again on logging in just now, pressed the OTHER button. I dont know if there's much different though :)
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| 3 BIG bugs |
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By ex-parrot - Posted on July 25, 2003 - 11:14:14 (#8312)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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There are 3 serious bugs in this version of BeMSN.
1. If you have quite a lot of contacts, and a large number are signed in, BeMSN will crash with a segment violation on logging in, the 'debugger' button says this:
loading symbols
segment violation occurred
_free_internal:
_free_internal:
+011b ec06231b: * 0c7289 movl %esi, 0x0000000c(%edx)
Recibe NS:
2. The default state for the 'offline' list should be unexpanded, i.e, closed. Otherwise, heaps of CPU time is wasted redrawing the list and it tends to crash while its redrawing
3. When an IM comes in, or you click a name there is a long waiting period where it 'resolves' the name or something.
If these 3 things could be fixed in some future release would be WONDERFUL! Keep up the good work. Maybe team up with the siMSN guy?
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| Crash |
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By gmiranda - Posted on June 20, 2003 - 00:02:16 (#7799)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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It also crashes if there is no internet connection avaible :P
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| oops |
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By jeanmarc - Posted on June 19, 2003 - 18:31:01 (#7796)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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| Crash |
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By jeanmarc - Posted on June 19, 2003 - 18:29:25 (#7795)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.4 |
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BeMSN crash every time a buddy came only (v1.4)
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