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| Is it Christmas... |
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By kraton. - Posted on October 15, 2004 - 04:04:49 (#14390)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.5.0 |
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Wonderful development. Great to work with. Thank you very much Super Stippi.
Bruno
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| Rotation only and I am happy until christmas |
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By kraton. - Posted on October 8, 2004 - 18:44:08 (#14343)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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What about a easy rotation tool for use on a layer so it would much easier to combine pictures together?
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| Re: SVG |
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By stippi - Posted on September 8, 2004 - 16:30:17 (#14122)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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I have actually considered SVG already. The problem is wether the whole document or Shape objects only should be exported to SVG. Later would be easier, but not as satisfactory. The same goes for other document formats, as for example Photoshop documents are build up differently. The different layer blending modes are a problem. I'm keeping this in mind though and maybe I come up with a good solution. For the moment, my focus is support for affine transformations in all object types. There is good success in Bitmap and Shape objects, but for example the Brush system needs a rewrite... When this is done, I will either do pixel selections or improved import/export.
Regards,
-Stephan
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| Great new features! |
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By Jace - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 20:29:45 (#14084)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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Wow, I'm happy to see this is still going strong! Great to see shape tools in BeOS. Are you going to be providing BeOS with its first SVG creation tool? We sure need one since Zeta is going to have all that SVG Tracker goodness...
Cool!
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| Re: Mensys/Kagi |
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By stippi - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 18:02:49 (#14078)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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If you're from Europe, using the Mensys store will most likely be easier. I don't want to prefer one over the other. Kagi has a more professional site for vendors, while the Mensys people have been *personally* very nice to us. So either one is fine. I'm also in touch with the ICO people to offer our products on their store too.
Regards,
-Stephan
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| Re: Copy and Paste |
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By stippi - Posted on September 2, 2004 - 17:59:44 (#14077)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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There is two different ways to Copy/Paste. One is inside the Object list. This means you copy and paste "objects", WonderBrush has its own clipboard for this, which is persistent like the system clipboard. So it works even across different sessions of using WonderBrush. The normal shortcuts don't work there though, you have to use the menu items. Selected objects are copied, so you pick them from the list, not directly on the Canvas.
The second way of Copy/Paste is through the "Select" tool (the icon with the dotted rect). It works just like the Crop tool only it copies the *bitmap data* to the system clipboard. It is also persistent and compatible with ArtPaint. You can choose, if you want to copy only from the active Layer or from the entire Canvas. You define the area to be copied by dragging a rectangle and optionally changing it afterwards. As soon as you press the green "Commit/Apply" checkmark icon, the area is copied and the box disappears.
Additionally, there is a single "Paste" menu item in the Edit menu. This item will be enabled whenever there is *bitmap data* in the system clipboard. So it works when copying something from within WonderBrush itself, but also when copying something in ArtPaint or any other compatible app (not Refraction). When you use the Paste item, a new Bitmap object will be pasted and WonderBrush automatically switches to the Translate tool. If the bitmap data came from WonderBrush itself, the position will be maintained, while if it comes from ArtPaint, it will be at the top left corner of the canvas.
As far as the Select tool is concerned, empty areas (alpha = 0) are clipped from the selection. A completely empty area will give an error.
If there are ideas for making this smoother (other than assigning keyboard shortcuts to the Object list copy/paste), please let me know! :-)
Regards,
-Stephan
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| Mensys or Kagi? |
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By s_d - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 20:37:04 (#14064)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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Hello, Stippi.
Which shopping system produces less overhead (and greater sum remaining for you)?
(I'm living in EU, if this matters,)
Regards, fyysik
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| Stable, clean, very fast, no Wonder!!! |
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By kraton. - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 19:08:03 (#14061)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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Everything implemented so far works like expected...
just wonderful.
Sure I miss my basic image manipulation tools and some display for the color values and Text values, but I know they will be implemented soon.
As Vincent pointed out it is still a bit confusing using the copy and paste function, it would be very nice and easy to use it on objects and just hold down the strg+c for copying and strg+v for paste it. Together with shift it will copyed exactly on the old possition.
Yes that would be nice.
I tried the shape-transform tool, and it is just compled for me. It is more than I would use in daily need now. I just try to find out what it is usfull for.
Ok thanks for your clean and stable version.
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| copy/paste |
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By cvincent - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 18:49:34 (#14059)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.2 |
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Hi,
I have registered my version, but i would like to have a copy/paste function very simple like as copy selected zone into clipboard with a menu "Copy" and paste the zone from clipboard by a menu "Patse"
Regards,
CKJ - Vincent Cedric
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| Rotation of selected objects |
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By kraton. - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 09:53:29 (#14044)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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Thank you very much for the tipps and the explanation about the touch command.
I often use wonderbrush but I badly miss the rotate Tool to rotate the pictures precisely. I need this in order to
combine to layers for creating posters or flyers. So I wish to rotate the background Picture to fit my combination.
I by myself read the documentations allways but often forget the keys. But they work...
My wishlist is long but for now I am very pleased with this product and I am proud I bought it and support my favorite app on BeOs. Btw I bought exposer too. Only to support Wonderbrush.
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| Re: Wonderful |
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By mario-pl - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 09:40:04 (#14042)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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I also think that every YellowBites app is excellent. To sell more copies of eXposer and WonderBrush you firstly should update your website. It's so outdated! And maybe you should do some marketing actions (like Xentronix). ICO's shop is also the place where people should be able to buy YellowBites' products.
Greets.
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| Re: Suggestions |
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By stippi - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 03:43:23 (#14038)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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You can change the size, rotation and position of the text using the keyboard (make sure the Text input field does not have focus). Nobody every reads documentation, even if it is as short as WonderBrush's.... :-) You will have to at least scroll through it to figure out which keys.
Linking layers together will come at a later point, I'm afraid. I suggest using the Translate tools value input. Select everything on one layer, do the transformation and remember the numbers in the X and Y fields. Then on the other layer(s), select everything again and enter the same numbers to do the translation. A sorry workarround, I know, but that's all you got right now.
As for turning off the brush cursor... how exactly should this work, like in Photoshop, with an alternative real mouse cursor? Would be easy, actually.
Regards,
-Stephan
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| Re: Re: Wonderful |
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By Androo - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 03:02:08 (#14037)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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OK, here's what I noticed whilst creating a logo with WonderBrush.
The text tool works beautifully and renders beautifully, but I would like the ability to more smoothly control the size (the difference between each notch on the slider is just too great). I would like to have the ability to link layers together so that I can manipulate them together. I'd like to have the option to turn off the brush preview cursor as sometimes it gets in the way when doing precise touchups.
Any other comment I would have would just be a feature suggestion borrowing from Photoshop, so I'll stop here :)
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| Re: Wonderful |
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By stippi - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 01:21:27 (#14033)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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The number of registered users is much higher for WonderBrush than for eXposer. I'ts only just above fourty though. That tells you how few eXposer licences we actually sold... Unfortunately, since WonderBrush is so cheap, this doesn't translate to a lot of money. The online stores are taking a percentage too. On Kagi, the resulting ammount is 5,80 for each 7,50 we sell. That's still including German taxes though. In fact, we have not reached the minimum ammount of money that triggers a Kagi payment.
When WonderBrush becomes more powerful, I plan on raising the price a bit. Actually purchasing WonderBrush (or any app) is the most encouraging thing you can do as a user. Sending considerate feedback is also very good. The best feedback is when you actually tried to use the product and found problems that stopped you from being productive (missing features but also misbehaviour). Of course, when you were positively surprised by the product and just want to tell that to the author, this is also very encouraging. I'm sometimes reveiving very valuable feedback, but sometimes it feels like there is only 300 BeOS users left in total... :-)
Best regards,
-Stephan
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| Re: Touch |
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By stippi - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 01:05:13 (#14031)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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The shell command "touch" is for updating the modification date of a file to the current time. WonderBrush uses compiled addons for its localization. (Not that there is a very good reason for that, but I avoided comming up with my own file format for translations...). WonderBrush compiles these addons from the human readable translations that are actually simple C code. Usually, WonderBrush cannot use an "old" addon, ie one that was compiled by an older WonderBrush version. That's why it checks each time before using an addon if it maybe needs to recompile the translation. As for the last release, I forgot to "update" the translations, since I did some last minute fixes. Some languages had therefor a modification date older than WonderBrush itself. Since no strings changed though, it was relatively safe to tell you to use "touch" on those addons to update the modification time. Now WonderBrush didn't think it needed to recompile (which unfortunately only works if you have the development tools installed).
So, after this long comment, it should be clear that you cannot use touch to fix broken links. But I think there is a tool for that on BeBits, only I forgot the name. Sorry... :-)
Regards,
-Stephan
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| Wonderful |
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By Androo - Posted on September 1, 2004 - 00:04:48 (#14029)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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Every app YellowBites touches feels like what a BeOS-app should be. ColdCut and eXposer are two of the best examples of quality apps on this OS and WonderBrush is shaping up to be another.
As soon as I break out of my "broke college student" state (when I get a job in this town), I will be sending my $7.50 along your way as this app certainly deserves more development. Keep it up.
Just out of interest, though, about how many people have registered your BeOS apps?
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| Touch? |
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By kraton. - Posted on August 16, 2004 - 18:59:36 (#13880)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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What is the touch order for? Can I use it with programs they look for files, they dont find, but I know that they are in the folder and if I touch them the program will find this lost links again???
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| Language problems |
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By vercu - Posted on August 15, 2004 - 21:38:19 (#13867)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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Yes, that solved the problem. Now all Languages are working.
Thanks for your help.
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| Language problems |
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By stippi - Posted on August 15, 2004 - 15:49:09 (#13863)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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Hm. Maybe I released a version, where the application has a newer build date than the language add-ons. This is a mistake on my side, since WonderBrush then tries to rebuild the language add-ons. If you have the development tools not installed, this means that the add-on building fails and the Language disappears from the menu.
The temporary fix would be to "touch" all language add-ons, so that their modification date is newer then the application executable. In case you're not sure on how to do this:
1.) Launch a Terminal
2.) type "cd /path/to/WonderBrush/Languages"
3.) type "touch *"
Tell me if this fixes the problem.
Regards,
-Stephan
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| problem with localisation |
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By vercu - Posted on August 13, 2004 - 11:37:54 (#13849)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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I installed the new version to the old location.
But deleted the old version first. I also deleted the config file afterwards but it didn't help.
Tested on two machines running Zeta RC3 and RC2.
Can test the program on plain R5.03 on sunday.
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| no problem with localisation |
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By kraton. - Posted on August 13, 2004 - 09:54:50 (#13848)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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I just installed the new version over the old one, and I have not problems here. Everything is working.
Maybe you installed your new version to a new location?
I tried it with dano and ver.5.03
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| Language selection |
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By vercu - Posted on August 12, 2004 - 18:30:19 (#13826)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.1 |
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I cannot select an other language than English.
The language simply disapears fron the selection box in Program Settings.
Otherwise i like this program very much, keep up the work on it.
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| Copy & Paste |
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By stippi - Posted on August 7, 2004 - 00:42:44 (#13751)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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Hi,
after I wrote my Talkback comment about how I would add affine transformations first, I had an idea, of how a simple copy&paste function could look like. I assembled it from existing pieces of code this morning, and it is working great already. I think I will do a "minor" update to the release version in a few days (maybe there will be a delay, since I will have no internet access at my girlfriends place), and then you can all do some simple copying as in ShowImage. :-) Some of you might have noticed the "Paste" menu item in the "Edit" menu. If the system clipboard contains an archived BBitmap, it will be enabled (that's what ArtPaint generates if you copy something in ArtPaint). Now, WonderBrush features a new tool, very similar to the "Crop" tool, and that will copy a rectangular area of the canvas (or the active layer) to the clipboard, which can than be pasted using the "Edit" menu as a new "Bitmap" object. As I said, this is already implemented, though it will of course only be there as a sorry placeholder for real selections. Those will be done in a very similar concept as in Becasso, or Photoshops mask mode.
Regards,
-Stephan
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| ok ! |
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By cvincent - Posted on August 6, 2004 - 21:02:34 (#13748)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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Hi,
Ok very impresive application, but if this version is just the beginning, i'm very exited to wait the advance release !!!
Regards,
CKJ - Vincent Cedric
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| Only the beginning! |
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By kraton. - Posted on August 6, 2004 - 20:12:39 (#13746)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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What we see is just the beginning,
I think Stephan want to solve the fundamental and difficult things first. As I think he is able to implement things like copy and paste with easy. I think he want to make the base considerations and major decissions first. After that he will apply the other missing things like rotation, selection, and add-ons.
Im very sure that this app will change the view of BeOs Grafiktools, as it is a nativ and very fast app.
The great "full working" shape tool is just the beginning. And the smothness to work with the objects is just great arent they???
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| ok, what i mean |
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By cvincent - Posted on August 6, 2004 - 15:06:47 (#13742)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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My ask is for a simple copy paste with selection of what you want to copy, it's a simple function that exist in ShowImage in exemple :)
Regards,
Very good application, fast !!!
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| Re: Copy & Paste (and Great but...) |
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By stippi - Posted on August 6, 2004 - 10:09:13 (#13739)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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This is a problem of "Content creation" versus "Manipulation". I know there are many things lacking in the current version. Real pixel selections are one of them, and I guess this is what cvincent meant. At the moment, I have three current tasks:
- Make the Shape tool more feature complete (translating selections of control points, multiple paths for defining holes etc),
- Support for affine transformations in the Translate tool
- Support for pixel selections
All of those are pretty important right now, though I am more inclined to get the transformation stuff working first. My animation study is finished, and I have more spare time for coding now. You can expect Work In Progress releases that will hopefully include these features in the not too distant future. Remember, the most encouraging support you can show, is by spending USD 7.50! :-)
Another very encouraging thing is real bug reports and feature suggestions via emails. I have to thank Marcin Konicki (ahwayakchih) for his very good support and bug hunting. Without him, this release would not have been as polished! :-)
Regards,
-Stephan
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| Copy and paste |
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By kraton. - Posted on August 6, 2004 - 09:46:02 (#13738)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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As I know you can copy and paste and freeze all objects in the object list and then even drag them to another layer. You can copy layer by using shift and then move the layer to make a copy of it.
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| Great but.... |
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By cvincent - Posted on August 5, 2004 - 21:14:51 (#13734)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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Hi,
I have tested but why don't have a copy/paste function ??
just a simple copy/paste same as simple drawing application ?
Regards,
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| Great Screenshot thx. |
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By kraton. - Posted on August 5, 2004 - 20:39:58 (#13733)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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A bit to big but nice to see a screenshot without compression so people will see the smoothness of your app.
Thx Stephan
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| Great as expected. |
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By kraton. - Posted on August 5, 2004 - 20:33:00 (#13732)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.3.0 |
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Just as wonderful as expected. Fine work. Until now I found no bugs.
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| New Screenshoot? |
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By kraton. - Posted on July 28, 2004 - 12:58:58 (#13627)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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Please update the screenshot so people are able to see your developement, and/or your great curve/shape/path tool.
You are just great, go on.
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| Uh... WHOA |
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By Jess - Posted on June 18, 2004 - 23:35:23 (#12966)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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When I first saw this some out I was like "cool!", but never tried it becuase I couldn't afford it if I liked it. I broke down today & tried it.
Uh... WHOA! (read title of this feedback for double the effect)
I was very supprised by this app. It feels solid, very solid. It's fast & responsive on my slow system & has many of the basic's already for doing design. Has lots of load save stuff for colors & brushes etc & so it looks VERY nice for setting up for a certain persons style of work... man if this gets filters, gradeient tools etc... it'll be monsterous. The solid feel of this app alone makes it nice. Keep up the good work & let me know when you plan on nuking Photoshop! 8^)
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By stippi - Posted on June 18, 2004 - 20:15:17 (#12965)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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Hi Kraton,
the email address is super stippi at gmx dot de. Thanks for the positive feedback on the Shape tool. It has improved in the meantime, I hope to release a new shapshot soon.
Regards,
-Stephan
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| The shape Tool is Great |
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By kraton. - Posted on June 18, 2004 - 19:05:02 (#12961)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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The shape tool is just great i used it successful and I am very impressed. This is going to be my favorit for grafics. I´d would like to know where i find your e-mail for conntact and whether i can write in german to you.
Thank for your great work.
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| WonderBrush-PPC |
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By DLaz - Posted on June 13, 2004 - 11:25:54 (#12853)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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I spent about 25-30 min. so far with this and it works fine on PPC here so far.
Thanks!
Cale aka DLazlo
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| Pen-Line smoothing feature |
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By s_d - Posted on June 12, 2004 - 17:07:44 (#12842)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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Hello, Stephan.
I like ideology of you app and got idea that it can be unique for BeOS gfx-apps killer-feature implemented.
Namely, painting smoothing, which actually exists IIRC only in vector-drawing apps (Like CorelXara or Flash).
So, when you draw line, additional slider with "tolerance" is active, until you hit return or such.
Moving that slider you can smooth hand-drawn line.
Sure, it needs holding in memory full vector of draw-movements, but not for ever:)
I don't know though, which method for smoothing will be optimal - polynomial interpolation, Fourier-filtering, or simplicistic "box-averaging".
But what i know is that will allow perfect art creation for much more users:)
Regards, SD
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| Re: crashing on Zeta |
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By stippi - Posted on May 23, 2004 - 23:35:16 (#12557)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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Please read my comment below about "artifacts". It tells you also about fixing the lock ups (if that's what you're seeing) on Zeta. Remember it's best to email me about such problems. And it would be nice if you took the extra time and describe your problem in a little more detail. It took me a lot of time to write this application. Last but not least, I would expect Zeta to be binary compatible with R5. If something crashes on Zeta that runs fine on R5, it might be wise to tell the Zeta support team, given the "Release Candidate" status of Zeta.
Regards,
-Stephan
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| Please make a Zeta version |
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By lelldorin - Posted on May 23, 2004 - 21:40:23 (#12551)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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Please make a Version for Zeta, this version crash by loading.
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| Thanks! |
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By Sir Mik - Posted on May 22, 2004 - 13:03:24 (#12538)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0.0 |
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Works perfectly, thanks for your explanation.
regards,
Tim
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