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| Hi rudolfc! |
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By umccullough - Posted on August 22, 2006 - 19:50:49 (#20482)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Rudolf,
Nice to see you're still around :)
It appears my cardid is already supported - as the driver initializes fine. The problem is that it starts up to a black screen.
It's an integrated 6100 on my Gigabyte MB - it only has a VGA (analog) output, with no DVI. I'm wondering if that is the cause.
Is there something I can try to debug the problem further?
Feel free to send me an email if there's anything I can try... I would prefer testing it with Haiku even :)
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| hi guys! |
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By rudolfc - Posted on August 22, 2006 - 11:12:01 (#20480)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Make sure you report the cardID's, so they can be added to the driver by someone..
Bye!
Rudolf.
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| GF 6100 not working for me either... |
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By umccullough - Posted on July 30, 2006 - 18:13:56 (#20238)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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So, I am unable to get the integrated GeForce 6100 chipset on my Gigabyte GA-M55plus-S3G board. It only has a 15-pin VGA connector on it, and when booting with the nv driver I get a black screen (tested in Haiku, and Zeta).
Booting with safe mode video works with Zeta, but I think Haiku is still using the nv driver when booting with safe mode video as it does the same thing again.
Rudolf, if you find the time, a quick suggestion on what to try would be great! Otherwise, I understand.
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| Nriver 0.80 and eta 1.2 - no chance |
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By guennie - Posted on May 27, 2006 - 10:02:58 (#19873)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Newest Zeta 1.2 and newest NVidia-Driver will not work with my GeForce 6200 AGP graphics card :(
Please help me, Rudolf
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| haiku v0.80 dont work on zeta 1.1 gforce 7300 go card |
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By arnutis - Posted on May 15, 2006 - 00:57:49 (#19724)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Hi,
I have the problem with haiku driver, it dont want to work on zeta 1.1 with gf 7300 go. I cant find that alternative driver for my note. this is my cards id, i would be glad to find drivers for my laptop.
vendor: nvidia corporation(0x10de)
Card id: (ox1d7)
arnutis
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| Kraton's system again -solved! |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 15, 2006 - 10:56:40 (#19469)
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Hi,
Well,after more searching in the code it turns out there was a problem in the nvidia driver with enabling AGP: it assumed this succeeded if it did not block it itself.
The acceleration engine was setup for AGP transfers while it should have been setup for PCI transfers instead in this case: hence engine crash. (since AGP transfers weren't executed of course).
This is why blocking AGP mode via nv.settings worked correctly, while the engine crashed if it was done via agp.settings instead (block_agp option).
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The reason kraton found this bug, is that on his system default AGP mode doesn't work OK apparantly, so the first step on his part for determining this was disabling AGP mode totally. Since he did this via agp.settings he never got further than this.
Now this problem is cleared, kraton can see if he can find a 'restricted' (lower than optimal) AGP mode that works OK after all.
Please note that the remaining AGP trouble in his system are 'normally'. AGP mode is (in fact) a 'tweak' on top of the PCI bus, which makes it's stability less good than PCI mode (because of complexity and speed). If the graphicscard or mainboard designers make a small error stability of AGP will be less than optimal, forcing users to tweak with lower settings (or forcing them to try possible system BIOS setup tweaks for AGP signal strengths and such).
As far as I am concerned kraton's error is completely solved now. Glad we put this much time in it :-)
Thanks kraton!
Rudolf.
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| kraton's system |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 14, 2006 - 23:39:19 (#19467)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Hi,
Here's an update on kraton's system:
It turns out driver 0.80 and 3D driver alpha4.1 work nicely on his system. DMA mode is up and running, however AGP mode must be disabled via nv.settings for him.
The strange thing is that disabling AGP via agp.settings (although the log indicated that works as well) on his system did not quite have the same effect: in this case the engine stalled so accelerated drawing was aborted and stopped.
It would be nice if we got to the bottom of this, but chances on that are not optimal due to the fact I don't have this specific system at my disposal.
I expect something outside of the three drivers involved is going wrong here: maybe a install related problem, or a hardware related problem.
If I find out more, I'll post it here. For now, all is well indeed..
Bye!
Rudolf.
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| good improvements |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on April 14, 2006 - 19:12:23 (#19464)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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I'm running with the latest and greatest drivers over here. I enabled sync with monitor refresh rate, and it 'sure' does work. If your frames per second cannot yet cacth up to your refresh rate in quake2, just look at the floor, bind a key to 'timerefresh' and hit that key. Notice the fps echo will read your exact monitor refresh rate, up to 6 decimal places :)
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| kraton |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 14, 2006 - 12:42:50 (#19463)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Hi again,
I fthe file is growing in size, that means logging is enabled. For the problem you are having, it's not interesting however. Just send the zipped up version to me you already have.
BTW: Did you install the AGP busmanager? Did you use that with older driverversions? (so did you change the AGP setup?)
If you mail me that file, I'll have a look (if you were unable to complete boot normally with DMA mode enabled, then the file would be corrupted probably for that time).
However, even if your monitor shuts off, the boot should complete AFAIK, and you should hear the startup sound. After that sound, and after disk activity end, just press and hold <alt><ctrl><del> for 5 seconds or so: the disk cache will be flushed then and the system should reboot. During reboot you can just boot into safe graphics mode so you should be able to get the logfile for a DMA boot then.
Hope I make sence here.
If we ascertain DMA is indeed broken in the driver for your card, I'll undo the last change I did (for that 104% 3D speed on TNT2 style cards). That change could be the cause.
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If other people are experiencing problems please let me know as well! My guess would be that only TNT2(M64) style cards could have trouble, and GF2MX types (NV11).
Sofar I've not received any negative messages (apart from this one which we need to find the reason for), so for now I am assuming all is well ;-)
Rudolf.
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| TNT2 M64 no DMA? |
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By kraton. - Posted on April 14, 2006 - 10:00:05 (#19462)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Yes if i fallback to pio mode zeta is booting and working. So I cannot use DMA acceleration?
The first time i booted with logging enabled. Zeta booted until all icons, after that the grafikcard/monitor switched to standbymode? The nv_logfile.log logfile I recived in my home folder I could not manage to open with beezer... It says it is corrupt? Can you open it?
After that I used pio mode and the size of the logfile is changing all time it is zipped allready. Should I zip it again?
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| @kraton |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 13, 2006 - 12:52:28 (#19455)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Or, did you try to say that the 3D driver doesn't work with 2D 0.80???
If 2D works with 0.80, then you're set: 3D driver alpha 4.1 will be released today I expect: you will need that one for 3D with 0.80.
Please keep me posted!
Rudolf.
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| TNT2-M64 - kraton |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 13, 2006 - 12:50:27 (#19454)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Hi,
Can you send me a logfile from version 0.80 attempting to boot?
And, after you created a logfile, try to modify nv.settings to use PIO mode acceleration. Does the driver work then?
Please send me a logfile from these attempts: if you first enabled logging, and then do all tests, and finally zip that logfile up and send it to me, then I'd be very pleased :-)
Thanks a lot in advance!
Rudolf.
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| TNT2 M64 no way... |
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By kraton. - Posted on April 13, 2006 - 11:58:15 (#19451)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Sorry this version is not working at all at my TNT2 M64 400MHz 440BX board.
Where to get the working older 0.74 Version, without non working 3D-Driver?
Or the working older 0.41 and the working 3D Driver now?
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| 3D / widemode |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 12, 2006 - 21:57:15 (#19437)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Hi there,
About widemode: you're welcome! Though I should have done that sooner after all :)
3D: I'll release Alpha 4.1 asap, hopefully within 24 hours. I plan to do a texture loading test before recompiling, as there's a sync fault in there it seems (shows mainly if there's low cardmem for an app). Would be nice if I could fix that for this release.
Bye!
Rudolf.
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| Thanks for the switch |
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By tigerdog - Posted on April 12, 2006 - 17:32:09 (#19435)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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Thank you for adding the force wide-mode switch, Rudolph!
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| great work |
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By Rafael K - Posted on April 11, 2006 - 16:08:35 (#19422)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.80 |
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thanks for your work;
I cann't wait to test it on my GeForce 2MX :)
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| Re: Tvout status and plans |
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By matjako - Posted on March 26, 2006 - 10:27:11 (#19290)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.74 |
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Thanks, that's great. BeTVOut is clearly just a work-around. Unwieldy as it is, it is actually still better for GF2 than nV's own Detonator drivers - you need a doctorate to get a decent overscan picture, or at least something close to it. I'd be watching the movie on the BeOS by then, boot-time and BeTVOut included ;) Interestingly, with the newer nV chips, getting overscan on WIndows is no problem.
Good work, btw! I' dreaming of a day when CEOs of all the spec-holding corporations wake up into a beautiful morning and say "life is good, let's just release them spec, all of them! Let them run free!"... I'm going crazy.
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| Tvout status and plans |
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By rudolfc - Posted on March 25, 2006 - 20:58:23 (#19286)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.74 |
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Hi,
You're correct, currently TVout in the nVidia driver is only supported for these TVencoders:
Brooktree/Conexant BT868, BT869 and
Conexant CX25870 and CX25871.
These chips are all supported by BeTVout as well, but you should nolonger use BeTVOut for them now.
BeTVOut however also supports a range of Chrontel chips CH7003-CH7008. Yours is one of those.
The TVout related plan for the nVidia driver is:
- add support for those chrontel chips. Once that is done, BeTVOut will probably be removed from BeBits.
- add support for some Philips encoders;
- try to add support for nVidia encoder type #1: that's the one in the GeForce4MX cards;
- try to add support for nvidia encoder type #2: that's the one in GeForce FX and later cards (AFAIK).
These nVidia encoders are relatively hard to do of course, as nVidia still does not release register level specs for their hardware. On the bright side, there are some projects that already did some work on these encoders, and they are reported to work. Although last I heard quality was not very good. This is a reason for me to not hurry this: the longer I wait on nVidia encoder support, the less trouble it will be. :-)
Of course I have a lot to do, and not enough time to do it in, hence I can't foresay when I'll be working on this. It's just planned as a todo item.
Hope this info is satisfactory :-)
Best regards,
Rudolf.
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| Some TV-Out findings |
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By matjako - Posted on March 23, 2006 - 22:00:37 (#19257)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.74 |
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I have two NVidia chipsed adapters, both work correctly with the new version, except there is no TV support by the driver. The first is detected as Nvidia GeForce2 MX (NV11) and I get something like
I2C: STOP condition generated on bus 1; status is 3
Brooktree: No TV encoder Found
... although with BeTVOut I get more like
Checking sane IIC bus(ses) for first possible TV-out chip:
Found one on bus 1, adress $ea;
Chiptype is ch7007.
... and the TV output then works fine! Any ideas?
The other card is some GF5500 (NV34) and there is of course no way to get TV-Out to work, but that was expected.
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| DVI advice |
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By rudolfc - Posted on March 23, 2006 - 11:17:09 (#19254)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.74 |
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Hi!,
About DVI: should work on all cards outthere, with some notes:
- on laptops external DVI might be troublesome;
- on cards with two DVI ports one of those port might show some distortions (confirmed a GF-FX5200 over here);
- coldstarting cards using DVI is not supported yet (use an analog connection for your DVI panel in such a case);
- I just read that most cards outthere have single-link DVI ports, except the newest ones (like the 7800's) which have dual-link ports. This means that high-res panels will not use their native resolution on older cards (max is 1600x1200?)
Bye!
Rudolf.
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| Re: DVI Advice |
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By ModeenF - Posted on March 23, 2006 - 09:33:40 (#19253)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.74 |
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The best card (have talked to Rudolf about this befor)
is a GeForce MX460, MX440 and MX4000 (they have the performance in the same way).. they hade some card at tradera.com under 200KR (440).. this is what you want to use if you want to use Rudolfs 3D driver.
the MX4000 is the newest but slowest, nearly half speed of MX440.(I have not have time to confirm this).
the MX440 comes in 3 different version and 32MB, 64MB 64MB with AGP8X, Dont know about DVI.
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| Re: DVI Advice |
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By kancept - Posted on March 20, 2006 - 20:54:28 (#19241)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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I use GeForce 440MX half height AGP cards on 2 of my BeOS boxen. They work great and have DVI and SVideo on them, no analog. I'm sure the regular version do have analog if you need that as a backup, but mine are DVI only. I also picked up a few different personal cinemas, and the DVI works on those as well. The half height ones I use are on eBay a lot and are usually under $20, and have a regular bracket on them. They are usually Dell pulls. No fans on them, just nice heat sinks.
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| Re: DVI advice? |
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By Hugh - Posted on March 20, 2006 - 19:55:52 (#19240)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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I have just got myself a Gigabyte GeForce6600 GT TurboForce-Edition with SilentPipe passive cooling, connected to my LCD via DVI-I.
Works like a charm in BeOS sofar, have yet to test video and game performance, but 2d is ok.
Big thanks to Rudolf! Now I long for overlay-support...
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| DVI advice? |
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By jonas.kirilla - Posted on March 16, 2006 - 00:42:36 (#19216)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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I'm looking for a cheap, fanless card that is known to work with DVI output in BeOS/Haiku. Any advice for me, Rudolf? Any chip or generation that is more likely to work?
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| zeta.. |
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By rudolfc - Posted on February 4, 2006 - 10:15:42 (#19004)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Hi,
Sounds like a plan :-)
I don't know which version of the nVidia driver is in Zeta 1.1, but you can always upgrade to the driver as listed here. Please, in both cases, if you get a chance: send me those logs and let me know.
It would be nice to have a 512Mb gfx card working OK confirmation. :-)
Thanks!
Rudolf.
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| Just purchased Zeta |
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By Zutecool - Posted on February 4, 2006 - 00:04:21 (#19001)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Just purchased Zeta. Hopefully I won't have issues with the videocard. If I do, it should support my network card, so I will be able to send those logs.
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| BTW |
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By rudolfc - Posted on February 3, 2006 - 22:17:38 (#18999)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Another option for a test would be removing 512Mb? or is that mem contained on a single RAM module?
If you remove 512Mb you might be able to make it work with the default detected (512MB) cardMEM.. That would confirm the total amount of memory being the trouble I guess :)
Rudolf.
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| files off-disk |
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By rudolfc - Posted on February 3, 2006 - 22:15:53 (#18998)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Hi,
No floppy as well? maybe if you zip it you could get it done? Or maybe a USB stick if USB patches are on there? (or you run dano /zeta :)
Thanks anyway. :-)
Bye!
Rudolf.
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| no way to get files off disk |
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By Zutecool - Posted on February 3, 2006 - 20:48:22 (#18997)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Got the log files, but I have no way to get files off disk. No network drivers and cannot view other HDs.
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| After a few restarts the system works fine. |
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By Zutecool - Posted on February 3, 2006 - 09:52:17 (#18991)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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After a few restarts the system works fine. No problems with terminal at all.
I am running the driver with 128 detected. I have 1GB of system memory. I only have BeOS 5.0.3. I will try to get a logfile from the boot without the video mem limited.
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| 512Mb cards |
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By rudolfc - Posted on February 3, 2006 - 08:24:27 (#18989)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Hi,
Can you please send me a logfile resulting from a boot with your new card?
Maybe you could also create a logfile for a boot without the 'memory' setting used?
And: how much system RAM does your system have? Do you have a copy of Zeta? Zeta should not have the 'low' RAM memory limitation. Did you try the 'RAM limiting bootloader' for R5/dano? Does that fix your trouble?
All-in-all: I fear you are running into the '512MB' R5/dano limitation. The exact limit varies per system (upto 768Mb?), and AFAIK is the sum of system RAM, and cardRAM (and maybe even more 'components' that I don't know of)
So: if the Terminal doesn't work while the rest of the system seems to be OK I am thinking about this RAM limit.
If you can send me a logfile I can hopefully determine if the gfx driver by itself detects the right amount of RAM. As adding 512Mb detection was a rather minor update, I don't think this is the problem...
Please send me a logfile via mail.
Thanks in advance, and thanks for reporting!
Rudolf.
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| Got my 6800GT 512MB working. . . but... |
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By Zutecool - Posted on February 2, 2006 - 23:18:34 (#18987)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Got my 512MB 6800GT working. . . but... no terminal. I get the "Bash: can't open a pty" message. To get this card working I had to do some pretty tricky stuff.
I was using a 128MB 6600GT. Then I swapped and found BeOS locked after all of the boot screen.
After doing some research, swapping back to the 6600, and discoving the memory limitations, I used the nv.settings file to limit the detected memory for the video card.
Swapped the cards back, and the system boots and works like a charm, but no terminal access. The 6600 gt card worked fine.
any ideas? I've reloaded tty from the CD and still no go.
My PC -
Dell Precision 470
1 GB ram
2x 3Ghz Xeon EM64T processors
nVidia GeForce 6800 GT 512MB
SB Audigy 2
Onboard Intel 1000 LAN - no drivers : (
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| video questions... |
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By rudolfc - Posted on December 4, 2005 - 22:25:13 (#18504)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Hi there zittergie :-)
To answer your questions:
1. Nope, sorry. Not yet anyway.
2. No technical info available. I guess we are waiting for someone to reverse engineer the new HDTV capable overlay engine these cards have (actually, all GF 6xxx/7xxx cards have this new engine except for the first introduced NV4x card: GF6800.)
Or, nVidia could release registerlevel specs themselves of course: that would be much better. ;-)
3. If you mean having video at two places at one time like in a window on your desktop and fullscreen on a secondary head, then: I think I'll not implement this soon, there are some difficult issues with that if it's to be a driver-only feature. If an app would support outputting video to both a normal window and a video consumer node however, then it would be possible sooner I expect.
If you mean simply having the controls on your desktop while the video does not display there, but on a secondary card instead: That will be possible even sooner, as a few mediaplayers already exist that can using a video consumer: now only the actual consumer has to be written. Or actually: be completed, as there already is a very alpha one that works 'a bit'.
Hope this info helps. :-)
Bye!
Rudolf.
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| Overlay support |
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By zittergie - Posted on November 30, 2005 - 19:36:37 (#18480)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.67 |
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Hi Rudolf,
I have a couple of questions:
1. Do you any timeframe for the overlay support on the GF6600(GT) ?
2. What problems are you facing to implement this in your driver ?
3. Any chance that the overlay can be send fullscreen to a second monitor or to TV-out ? (Theather mode)
BTW thanx for your efforts,
Using a Palit GF6600GT - AGP - 128Mb (very recently, my Radeon 9800 has crashed)
Fabrikant: 0x10de
Kaart ID : 0xf1
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| laptop trouble |
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By rudolfc - Posted on October 12, 2005 - 08:05:48 (#18020)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.53 |
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Hi Cvincent,
You can find my Email adress on my driver's homesite. I don't dare posting it too much, as I get spammed a lot these days... :-/
Anyhow: I think nVidia has _Two_ seperate driver packages for their cards: a package for the newest cards, and a seperate package for the older cards: both are 'unified' drivers so to speak, but they made one seperation to keep it workable.
This I have not yet looked at myself though, the two driver thing should be considered rumour at this point ;-)
If that doesn't work on Windows, then indeed: this is strange! Do you have a link or something to the manufacturor of your laptop so I can see all specs of your exact model?
BTW: Please take this to Email contact with me: I think the list of the postings regarding this specific problem is getting a bit long ;-)
Thanks!
Best regards,
Rudolf.
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| (rudolfc) about the card of laptop (Acer 4150lmi)... |
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By cvincent - Posted on October 11, 2005 - 23:36:58 (#18017)
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If that can give you an idea, i have installed W2k on the laptop, and when i download the latest drivers on Nvidia website, the driver say "that no card has found" !!!! (i have downloaded the good drivers, i'm sure)
But i get the drivers given in Acer support of 4150lmi laptop and all work ! it's possible the card is little specific and need a "patched" drivers !
I think if it's true it could be a possible reason why that's not really good work all the time on BeOS !
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| (rudolfc) just send me a mail... |
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By cvincent - Posted on October 11, 2005 - 00:28:53 (#18005)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.53 |
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hi, i have 2 screen-shots one of beos and one of windows (with everest tool) and 3 memory range are same just one is not, and this is this range is in conflict in BeOS !!!
if you send ma mail i can join the screen-shots in RE:
my mail : ckj (-) beos (@) wanadoo (.) fr
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| (rudolfc) laptop problem not realy resolved... |
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By cvincent - Posted on October 10, 2005 - 10:38:06 (#18000)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.53 |
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Hi, after bios upgrade, some boot is ok, but some other is wrong (video problem), but i see if i use Vesa or safe display mode, all work without problem, and i see the differences is with the nvidia drivers, beos display in "devices" tool in "memory Range" a conflict with VGA and Flash Memory (the confict not appear in safe mode or vesa !!! that can help you ? you can send me mail to discuss about testing or get debug to see why i get the conflict my mail : ckj (-) beos (@) wanadoo (.) fr
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| laptop problem (more) |
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By cvincent - Posted on September 29, 2005 - 10:52:24 (#17859)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.53 |
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i have see a new time the problem but after the rebbot the laptop freeze, and after rebbot i see display problem, to solve it i have needed to complete shutdown (memory problem after crash) but after this all the times i have boot on BeOS work !
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| vincentc - laptop prob |
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By rudolfc - Posted on September 29, 2005 - 09:40:20 (#17858)
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Hi again Vincent,
You're welcome.
Glad you found a solution! From what you wrote the drivers themselves shouldn't be the problem indeed I guess.
Bye!
Rudolf.
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6. USB Joystick... - 5,676
7. Broadcom 440x... - 5,423
8. S3 Trio 64 v2... - 4,745
9. USB Serial dr... - 4,718
10. Intel Extreme... - 4,481
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