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Crash when disabling theme and applying

By Kevin_Field - Posted on April 9, 2006 - 08:36:31 (#19396)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

It's kinda slow on my machine when perusing folder heirarchies, so I tried to disable the themes again, and this is what happens:

loading symbols
segment violation occurred
BString::UnlockBuffer(long):
UnlockBuffer__7BStringl:
+004d ec335121: * 118b movl (%ecx), %edx
w>Tracker Settings:sc
frame retaddr
fd04218c ecc6b3af BPrivate::ThemesSettingsView::MessageReceived(BMessage *) + 0000019f
fd0421dc ec307905 BWindow::DispatchMessage(BMessage *, BHandler *) + 000007c5
fd042240 ec3064ee BWindow::task_looper(void) + 00000362
fd04228c ec24efa6 BLooper::_task0_(void *) + 00000036
fd0422a0 ec0851ed thread_start + 00000039
w>Tracker Settings:

Ohhh....

By Kevin_Field - Posted on April 9, 2006 - 08:31:56 (#19394)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

Yar, that works. I had been to the SVG site, not the NewFS one. I guess the download here is only Beta 7, not Beta 7c? Themes didn't show up until I re-downloaded from the site you pointed out. Looks pretty slick!

Thanks,
Kev

Re: Desktop icons?

By Diver - Posted on April 7, 2006 - 13:45:33 (#19379)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

Did you look here? http://newfs.mlotz.ch/

Desktop icons?

By Kevin_Field - Posted on April 7, 2006 - 12:29:01 (#19378)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

Okay, so I installed this...now what? I can see the mcclintock icons fine and they look great--how do I get them to be the default icons in Tracker?

Kev

It's not that easy

By mmlr - Posted on May 8, 2005 - 07:00:14 (#16554)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

The difference between Tracker.NewFS and OpenTracker have become quite big since it was forked and the Tracker.NewFS needs many of those changes to support SVG, PNG and thumbnail-icons. It would certainly be possible to "port" the SVG support only, but then you would still only get 32x32 and 16x16 pixel icons. To change this you would need to rewrite quite some of the internal iconhandling inside OpenTracker.

I talked about this with Axel once and I had to agree that the way SVG and PNG-icons are handled by Tracker.NewFS (and the Zeta Tracker for that matter) is not a clean one. The problem is that BeOS, through it's GetIcon() functions, only supports B_MINI_ICON and B_LARGE_ICON. Everything else like fancy 128x128 PNG icons or even scalable ones have to be handled by Tracker.NewFS itself and cannot be accessed through a public API. You see, as the BeOS provides the GetIcon() calls (by BMimeType or BAppFileInfo) every application can use them. With this kind of SVG support in Tracker.NewFS this is not the case.

The conclusion is that, while technically possible, it would never be a really clean implementation and OpenTracker certainly won't accept that. It may be coded with a perfect coding style and may have absolutely no bugs, but it's just not "the right way", you know. Expect OpenTracker to adopt SVG when Haiku comes to R2 and supports more than B_MINI_ICON and B_LARGE_ICON nativly and it can be implemented based on a public API.

and OpenTracker...

By cvincent - Posted on May 8, 2005 - 05:19:52 (#16553)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

Please include in opentracker source the use of SVG translator for display icon !!!

Regards,

Public Experimental Package

By mmlr - Posted on February 7, 2005 - 10:09:06 (#15736)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

As you can read in the libbsvg forum (http://forum.mlotz.ch/viewtopic.php?t=48) there is a newer version (binary only) available.

This is sort of a preview of the upcoming Beta 04 package. It's titled experimental, but should be quite solid for daily use.
For more information and a description of the most recent changes, please follow the link.

Please report issues in the forum or directly by e-mail (mmlr@mlotz.ch).

On the close window crash again

By Masque - Posted on August 11, 2004 - 03:43:24 (#13817)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

I got the same problem with R5 (AthlonXP processor with patched kernel: GenuineIntel changed to AuthenticAMD) and with Tracker.NewFS 3.0 beta6, but not with NewFS 3.0 beta5.
Beta5 crashes when closing a folder window only if it contains thumbnails of images in scaled view.

There's also a strange thing: the SVG translator appears twice in the Data Tranlator app. Every entry, however, points at the same file: /boot/home/config/add-ons/Translators/SVG Translator.

I hope that it could help you fixing the bug.

Yup!

By mario - Posted on August 8, 2004 - 17:04:00 (#13777)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

Thank you!

Scalable Vector Graphics

By MYOB - Posted on August 7, 2004 - 11:45:37 (#13762)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

That answer your question?

Can you tell I hate abbreviations?

By mario - Posted on August 7, 2004 - 11:31:59 (#13761)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

What the heck is SVG????

hmm...

By looncraz - Posted on August 7, 2004 - 07:38:42 (#13760)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

The only times it crashes for me are as follows:

Incorrect icon ( set binary as its own icon./..not good)

Trying to scale an already scaled view

A bad translator, or more than one translator that support the same type. - I sometimes get an alert I can't click that says the jpeg header is bad. Probably the Haiku jpeg translator's fault.

In any event, the caching considerably improves performance here, though it is natural that more RAM is used. I would say making a set cache size limit, and removing entries with the lowest hit rate once this limit is approached is likely the best idea.

I would make the limit adjustable with a 10 MB preset.

Lot of work though.. maybe just let caching be turned off entirely.

--The loon

More on the crash (debug info)

By Masque - Posted on August 7, 2004 - 02:48:20 (#13759)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

Crash when closing folders (2)

By Masque - Posted on August 5, 2004 - 07:56:17 (#13730)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

I found that, when switching from Icon View to List View, Tracker shows every file twice (apps, apps, beos, beos, etc.).
When closing a window in List View with the duplicate files, it makes the Tracker crash.
In Icon View, when trying to "clean up" with ctrl-alt-k it makes the tracker crash.
I suppose that's coused by the duplicates: the tracher trying to sort files with the same identical name.
I think that in Icon View, the duplicates aren't visible, because they are overlapped by themselves.
When a folder is opened directly in List View (not switching from Icon to List, but opening directly in List), no duplicates appears.

Crash when closing folders

By Masque - Posted on August 5, 2004 - 07:28:52 (#13729)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

I found that it crashes constantly when closing folders containing many different icons (the folder containing mc clintock's icons, image folders with many thumbnails, my home folder). It happens regulary in Icon View and randomly in List View.

Caching

By mmlr - Posted on August 5, 2004 - 01:38:04 (#13726)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

The Tracker has iconcaches that always keeps the latest icons. For normal 32x32x8 icons you don't notice this, but with big thumbnails in 32bit color this consumes quite a bit of memory. I will adjust the caching behaviour and / or compress some of the files to address this problem. With todays harddisks and mainboards it wouldn't even be that much of a problem to always load them from attributes and remove them from the cache when closing the folder.

Memleak or design specifics?

By SD - Posted on August 4, 2004 - 21:39:01 (#13725)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 03

Currently Tracker reports to use 82/89 MB of RAM,
I believe that actually this RAM is used by Translators, as i tried to view in scaled mode folder with 300 pictures. At moment folder is closed, but memory is still occupied.
I met such behaviour with other application using TranslationKit, so i'm not in panic, just wish to know if it is really memory used by Translators cache and it may be freed when need in it raises.

Restoring icons

By erpe - Posted on July 1, 2004 - 11:51:26 (#13164)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

Great add-on! Does only someone know how te restore the original icons???

documentation &/or help

By rayman - Posted on June 30, 2004 - 05:07:44 (#13142)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

I test actually bsvgeditor, and I have big problem to use it without little documentation.
But I progress slowly, and I find if it exist a posibility to erase the last point of Path ?

Add-ons not working ..

By ashkarkm - Posted on June 28, 2004 - 19:49:49 (#13106)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

After i have installed the SVG pack and the tracker supplied with it, all my addons stoped working, it displays an error message showing errror loading..

..HELP ME

error with full install on R5.0.3

By Remy - Posted on June 28, 2004 - 17:56:03 (#13103)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

loading symbols
segment violation occurred
_malloc_internal:
_malloc_internal:
+015a ec08d9be: * 0c7889 movl %edi, 0x0000000c(%eax)

Great! Only a few bugs...

By rockman - Posted on June 27, 2004 - 10:49:34 (#13082)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

It' nice to finally have SVG icons on R5!
The only bugs I found were these:

1- Icons disappear when passing to/from list visualization: it also says "no files".
2- Ordering by attribute in list mode doesn't work or seldom works.
3- No icon change for special folders (boot drive, home, trash etc).

I suggest looking at the way BeTheme solved that problem... I don't know if you could do the same with SVG: maybe we'll need a new or strongly updated version of BeTheme! Is it still alive?
Keep on the good work and R5 will see the light again!

Full package on PhOS

By sarana - Posted on June 27, 2004 - 08:10:32 (#13078)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

Did not install well on PhOS. Here's what I got:

loading symbols
segment violation occurred
_free_internal:
_free_internal:
+0099 ec062299: * 040a748b movl 0x00000004(%edx,%ecx,1), %esi
w>/boot/home/Desktop:

Thumbnails

By mmlr - Posted on June 27, 2004 - 07:42:35 (#13077)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

No, in this release the thumbnails aren't compressed at all. This may change in the full Beta 7, and will use PNG or ZIP compression. GIF supports only 256 colors, yes and that would certainly not fit the purpose of this.

btw, why just GIF?

By s_d - Posted on June 27, 2004 - 06:41:06 (#13075)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

As far as i understand in this version you implemented tumbnail compression as we discussed in your forum.
But why just GIF? Not PNG, for example?
For speed reasons, or simplicity or anything else?
Also, if i remember correctly from old times, GIF has restrictions for number of colors, is it true?

Regards, and in respect to your work,

fyysik

Important update!

By mmlr - Posted on June 26, 2004 - 18:18:03 (#13064)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

I just repackaged the full package with a libtracker version that should be binary compatible with all the BeOS versions from R5 and up. If you are a R5 user, you don't need to redownload. If you use something above R5 you can now test the Tracker.NewFS 3.0 Beta 7 preview, too.

One thing to the translator thing:

If the Translator crashes - It will take down the application using it. If this is the Tracker, it will take down the Tracker. But as the problem is not within the Tracker, I can't do anything about it. Problems are known for the GIFTranslator and for BeCasso it seems. The only option is to remove the Translator or restore an old Tracker.
This problem may be "solved" in the future by using an external program to do the thumbnails. It cannot really be solved that way, it's just that the external program crashs in that case and not the Tracker.

Conflict with BeCasso Translator. Crash.

By s_d - Posted on June 26, 2004 - 16:47:18 (#13061)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

loading symbols
segment violation occurred
#File BecassoTranslator text:
#File BecassoTranslator text:
+7397 ea87c397: * 00ffffff00c7 movl $0x00ffffff, (%eax)
w>/boot/home/Desktop/Graphics:sc
frame retaddr
fd1e4514 ec34aae2 BTranslatorRoster::Translate(BPositionIO *, translator_info const *, BMessage *, BPositionIO *, unsigned long, unsigned long, char const *) + 0000014a
fd1e4748 ec3472b2 BTranslationUtils::GetBitmap(BPositionIO *, BTranslatorRoster *) + 00000052
fd1e47dc ec3483dd BTranslationUtils::GetBitmap(entry_ref const *, BTranslatorRoster *) + 0000004d
fd1e4860 ee6d7605 ExtendedIcon::CreateThumb(BBitmap *&) + 00000025
fd1e48a0 ee6d6774 ExtendedIcon::GetIcon(BBitmap *&) + 00000304
fd1e4900 ee7248ef GetNodeIcon__Q28BPrivate9IconCachePQ28BPrivate19ModelNodeLazyOpenerPt8AutoLock1ZQ28BPrivate15SimpleIconCachePPt8AutoLock1ZQ28BPrivate15SimpleIconCachePQ28BPrivate5ModelRQ28BPrivate10IconSourceQ28BPrivate12IconDrawMode9icon_sizePQ28BPrivate19LazyBi + 00000133

Thank's for the offer...

By mmlr - Posted on June 26, 2004 - 14:33:06 (#13058)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

... but I don't want anyone to look at my terribly unclean sources currently. The Tracker is undergoing massive changes with those thumbnail and SVG stuff. The new classes and such are not nearly finished and I hate to release code that is not well formated and cleaned up. That's the reason why I always release the sources with the full releases or milestones.

But as I am getting so many requests for a Dano Tracker.NewFS with SVG I will probably make the release earlier than for the finished Beta 7. Give me a week.

RE: Compatibility?

By looncraz - Posted on June 26, 2004 - 14:11:36 (#13057)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

Right, that is what I expected. The compatibility is in regards to the Tracker, sorry.

I am offering my services in compiling, and doing any modifications needed, though none should be unless a very few particular circumstances occur regarding the media kit or the BMessage flattening (flattened format is different, so there can be no sharing of flattened BMessages between R5 and Dano)... which is unlikely.

To make it short: want me to compile the Tracker for you so you do not have to worry about it?

If so, just mail the source to me. If not, oh well.

--The loon

Compatibility?

By mmlr - Posted on June 26, 2004 - 13:59:52 (#13056)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

What compatibility are you talking about? The library does work fine on Zeta. If you refer to the zombie replicant - that's not a Dano issue. If you restart the Tracker and try again it works fine.
If you refer to the Tracker: It is already source compatible with Dano. It's just that I don't want to compile for Dano all the time since I have to dig out my Dano install first. I will compile the Beta 7 for Dano, but not the preview releases of it in the package here.

Dano / PhOS / Zeta compatibility...

By looncraz - Posted on June 26, 2004 - 13:25:12 (#13054)
Current version when comment was posted: Beta 02

I believe that in all likelihood compatibility can be achieved with simple re-linking.. and a very vital look at certain flattened BMessages are handled (Dano uses a far different format).

I find it unlikely that, outside the media kit, Dano would not be capable of creating a good build of this without source code modifications (unless a lot of #ifdef BEOS_VERSION_R5's are in there).

In any event, a common source code can be fleshed.

I would like to volunteer my eperience in this exact capacity for Dano/PhOS/Zeta compatibility. I will likely try e-mailing if I do not see a reply here within a couple days.

--The loon













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