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By Franxico - Posted on May 22, 2008 - 19:49:49 (#22811)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I think you should write to the Haiku mailing list, because I don't think people check this page everyday ;)
See you!
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| yes! |
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By Franxico - Posted on May 22, 2008 - 19:44:43 (#22810)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Yes, leonifan! Pleeease continue Helios development =)
Thank you!
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| One year later... |
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By leonifan - Posted on May 13, 2008 - 23:19:19 (#22790)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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For those for whom Helios is not working, which versions of BeOS are you using? As much detail as possible on your setup will help :)
Seeing as there is still interest in the tool (I had thought not when I last posted - sorry!), I will make good on my (year old!) promise to get back to maintaining the app, *if* I am able to get the right versions running on my current machines...
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| Helios 1.6 Dano edition did the trick. |
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By StarWarsLegacy.net - Posted on March 24, 2008 - 18:04:04 (#22620)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I happened upon this version which seems to lack a lot of the features of my other copy, but at least it is working! :)
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| same thing |
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By StarWarsLegacy.net - Posted on March 24, 2008 - 13:55:18 (#22619)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I downgraded, but am having the same issue.
I did find commands for CDRecord and that works great, just not Helios itself.
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| Re: CDBurner Works fine, but Helios never finds the CD. |
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By -Meanwhile- - Posted on March 24, 2008 - 08:31:30 (#22617)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Try to find Helios v1.4 (maybe from BeShare); that one works.
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| CDBurner Works fine, but Helios never finds the CD. |
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By StarWarsLegacy.net - Posted on March 24, 2008 - 07:54:47 (#22616)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I have tried this on various computers and various CD/DVD burners and have never seen it work. I've read the docs and played with all the settings, but to no avail.
It also seems that the author has jumped ship, so am I at a loss here? Is there an alternative, or does someone know where to get the commands for cdrecord?
Thankx!
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| welcome back |
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By biffuz - Posted on February 26, 2007 - 11:08:40 (#21348)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Nice to hear that you're back, Mark! I think Helios was the best burning app for BeOS. Bring it back to its former glory!
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| cdrtool yes but... |
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By cvincent - Posted on February 25, 2007 - 11:24:45 (#21344)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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hi,
i don't like to do all with command line, i let this for linux users. An interesting part of beos that users can use OS an Application without command line etc...
thx for explain, but lot of users want Gui-tool !
And Helios IS one of this tool BeOS users wants !
Regards,
CKJ
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| no need for helios anymore - I am a cdrecord 'power user' |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on February 25, 2007 - 07:41:36 (#21343)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I have burned many CDs with cdrecord.. here is my masterful cheatsheet that I have created and use everytime I write CDs.
eject a CD (unmounts automatically)
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -eject
load a CD (mounts automatically)
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -load
gather CD-Writer information
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -prcap -inq
gather CD-Writer driver information
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -checkdrive
gather R/RW media information
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -atip
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 6
Is not unrestricted
Is not erasable
Disk sub type: Medium Type C, low Beta category (C-) (6)
ATIP start of lead in: -11231 (97:32/19)
ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71)
Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 27
Manufacturer: Prodisc Technology Inc. .
Fujifilm 52x 700MB CD-R media
ATIP info from disk:
Indicated writing power: 0
Reference speed: 0
Is not unrestricted
Is erasable
Disk sub type: Ultra High speed+ Rewritable media (3)
ATIP start of lead in: -11075 (97:34/25)
ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
2T speed low: 8 2T speed high: 32
power mult factor: 0 0
recommended erase/write power: 0
A1 values: 00 00 80
A2 values: 39 80 00
A3 values: 04 C4 B8
Disk type: Phase change
Manuf. index: 11
Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Verbatim 32x Ultra Speed+ CD-Rewriteable
convert the time into MB avail:
The amount of information that can be written is determined by the disc’s recording capacity as well as the physical and logical formats used.
Each of the five main CD physical formats devotes a different amount of space to user data (audio = 2,352 bytes/block, CD-ROM Mode 1 = 2,048 bytes/block, CD-ROM Mode 2 = 2,336/bytes/block, XA Form 1 = 2,048 bytes/block, XA Form 2 = 2,324 bytes/block). For any given data format disc capacity can be calculated by multiplying the appropriate user data area size by the CD data transfer rate of 75 blocks per second by 60 seconds by the minute size of disc. For example, a 80 minute disc written in CD-ROM Mode 1 format: user data area of 2048 bytes/block x 75 blocks/second = 153,600 bytes/second x 60 seconds = 9,216,000 bytes/minute x 80 minutes = 737,280,000 bytes.
2048x75x60=9216000
Ans x [79+(59/60)] = Ans x 79.98333333
737126399.96928 bytes into MB= 702.97852 total free space to write on disk.
blanking a CD-RW
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 blank=fast gracetime=0
data recording (iso/img files) with a CD-RW
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 blank=fast -pad -dao -data -padsize=63s driveropts=burnfree -v gracetime=0 thefilename.iso
data recording (iso/img files) with a CD-R
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -pad -dao -data -padsize=63s driveropts=burnfree gracetime=0 thefilename.iso
data recording (bootable iso/img main iso/img ) with a CD-R
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 padsize=63s gracetime=0 driveropts=burnfree -pad -dao -v -eject -data fileimage.img theisofilename.iso
audio recording (wav files) to a CD-RW
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 blank=fast padsize=63s driveropts=burnfree gracetime=0 -pad -dao -v -eject -audio *.wav
audio recording (wav files) to a CD-R
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 padsize=63s driveropts=burnfree gracetime=0 -pad -dao -v -eject -audio *.wav
creating Joliet (best CD file system and compatible with everything) ISO and then burning (keep the total files or directory within your CD size)
$ mkisofs -J -o temp.iso -V "volume label(32 chars OR LESS)" filename_not_longer_than_64 characters
mkisofs and cdrecord on the fly, in -dao format (disk at once)
mkisofs -V "The title" -q -J file.avi| cdrecord dev=8,0,0 driveropts=burnfree gracetime=0 -eject -overburn gracetime=0 tsize=`mkisofs -print-size -q file.avi`s -dao -pad -v -
tip - when writing more than one file on the CD always put them inside a folder and make the folder name your target file.
burn temp.iso
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -v -pad -dao -data -eject driveropts=burnfree gracetime=0 blank=fast temp.iso
$ cdrecord dev=8,0,0 -v -pad -dao -data -padsize=63s -eject driveropts=burnfree gracetime=0 temp.iso
$ rm temp.iso
4 175MB files can fit on one CD, 2 350MB files on one CD and one 700MB file
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| yes..... |
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By cvincent - Posted on February 24, 2007 - 23:21:02 (#21340)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Hi, it's interesing tio update the link, and continue to maintain the tool, i have some idee for Helios :))))
i can contact you by mail if that interest you :)
Regards,
CKJ
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| To all those attempting to download from here... |
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By leonifan - Posted on February 24, 2007 - 01:52:06 (#21339)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Hi all, leonifan back here after a very LONG break ;-)
These links possibly refer to my old webspace - and that was well and truly screwed up by the hosting company over a year ago.
If there is enough interest, I will transfer any files I still have to my newest webspace - and maybe, just maybe... return to maintaining these tools :-)
Thanks
Mark
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| what are you trying to do? |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 14, 2006 - 08:58:57 (#20405)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I just burned 34 cds yesterday in helios, maybe I can help.
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| No go |
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By StarWarsLegacy.net - Posted on August 14, 2006 - 03:36:01 (#20404)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I've tried this with 3 burners 2 old 4x's one new DVD burner.
None work. Tried all IDE ports (i got 4 of them) no go.
Installed CDRTOOLS but of course, tried all possible settings in Helios, what gives? I know my burners support my brand of CD-rs.
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| playlist import.... |
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By cvincent - Posted on June 5, 2006 - 13:58:31 (#19964)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Hi,
Please add an Import menu to import CLamp or SoundPlay playlist ;)
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| man... |
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By kancept - Posted on August 22, 2005 - 22:12:45 (#17533)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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You know, we could really cut down on the S/N ratio if you'd test thtese things first rather than just posting things saying stuff doesn't work without some sort of attempt at figuring it out. Posting saying it doesn't work without any type of info helps noone. Then posting again saying it's not the apps fault... Slow down.
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| burner is broken(?) |
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By nutela - Posted on August 22, 2005 - 16:37:00 (#17528)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Even Nero complaints... : (
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| How do you copy multiple sessions? |
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By nutela - Posted on August 22, 2005 - 14:41:25 (#17525)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Helios ejects after 13,5% of track1 (data) I tried DAO and TAO. Even audio CD's it doesn't copy : (
Cost me 3 CD's : (
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| COMBO LG LH-DT-ST RW / DVD GCC-4520-B |
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By fer_all4JC - Posted on June 25, 2005 - 01:49:17 (#16997)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Work´s fine...
Thank you!!!!!
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| Re: size of folder.... |
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By moshed - Posted on May 19, 2005 - 19:38:20 (#16686)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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http://www.fetal.de/index.php?id=91
It's not only due to the lack of time but also the fact that BeOS does not run on my computer. :-(
Best Regards,
Maurice
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| size of folder.... |
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By cvincent - Posted on May 19, 2005 - 18:19:15 (#16685)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Hi,
Can you include inthe list, the size for the folder (what the folder contain !)
Regards,
CKJ
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| Re: Thanks |
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By moshed - Posted on April 28, 2005 - 17:58:52 (#16447)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Hi pmvn,
I'd like to answer your questions via email. Please contact me via email if you like. :-)
Best Regards,
Maurice
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| Thanks |
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By nutela - Posted on April 27, 2005 - 12:53:12 (#16440)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Thanks for the info. Too bad, what about YellowTab? It would be nice if they continued your work.
DVD burning would be great.
Paul
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| Re: No Zeta version, and a Dan0=Phos version? |
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By moshed - Posted on April 9, 2005 - 12:29:02 (#16339)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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hi pmvn,
see http://www.fetal.de/index.php?id=91
best regards,
maurice
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| No Zeta version, and a Dan0=Phos version? |
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By nutela - Posted on April 8, 2005 - 18:56:15 (#16334)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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No Zeta version too bad, but a Dan0 or Phos version?
Paul
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| Re: Zeta Version??? |
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By moshed - Posted on March 1, 2005 - 00:01:14 (#16023)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Hi Das Jott
I am very sorry I cannot talk about this issue. At this time the only thing I can say is Helios won't be part of Zeta.
If you have any further questions please contact me: moscht_at_fetal_de
Best Regards,
Maurice Michalski
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| Zeta Version?? |
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By Das Jott - Posted on February 28, 2005 - 17:54:47 (#16013)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Why has the Zeta-Version been removed here?
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| dvd..... |
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By bs0 - Posted on February 10, 2005 - 14:49:32 (#15777)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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ok. it seems to write dvd: "burning..." for 3 seconds and then dvd is ejecting. question: HOW TO WRITE DVD+R ON BEOS??? contact me ASAP.
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| Waiting for disc... |
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By vitg - Posted on January 22, 2005 - 10:05:23 (#15511)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Looking again, it is enough for me to avoid that timeout message by just going in and ticking or unticking the Show All Devices option. It would be great if it did whatever the work behind that is on startup, each time.
This is using the Helios that is bundled with Zeta Neo: '1.71b Zeta'
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| To bs0 |
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By vitg - Posted on January 21, 2005 - 14:04:09 (#15487)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I was having that trouble too, but find that if I go into settings -> devices, uncheck and recheck the 'Show all devices' then reselect the reader and writer drives then it works properly.
Not sure what the problem is, but it's only a minor irritation to do this each time. If there's anything I can do to help pin down the problem, I'd be happy to.
Thanks to the authors for all their hard work on this app. I hope we'll see DVD support at some point.
(Zeta Neo+SP, Adaptec SCSI card, some Yamaha CDR/RW 6/4/16 burner. I can figure out which card and drive more precisely if that would help).
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| log it! |
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By normXXL - Posted on January 20, 2005 - 16:44:31 (#15481)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Before you burn somthing, try to open the log-windows, which will show you what's really up.
'cause Helios is only a nice frontend for the cdrtools and so they will hang your sys up.
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By bs0 - Posted on January 20, 2005 - 16:27:02 (#15480)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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i just hate this app, i can't write anything with it! "waiting for disc...", "helios waitged too long..."
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| Sadly true |
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By leonifan - Posted on January 7, 2005 - 21:48:59 (#15320)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Yes, I have unfortunately left Helios maintenance. However, Maurice is taking back the project, so it is not all bad news.
I'm sorry about this though (and those people who donated hardware, I will return / pass it on to Maurice at your discretion - thanks for all your help).
Maybe I will return to BeOS in the future - but more urgent circumstances have forced me to cut back on many things that I do currently - and this is one of those things that simply could not be sustained at this time.
Once again, a big thank you to all those people who helped out on this project - and good luck for the future.
Best regards
Mark
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| Leonifan did you leave the helios project? |
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By edmundf - Posted on December 31, 2004 - 11:28:02 (#15234)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Or is it the old text from Maurice Michalski that he
is no longer maintaining Helios?
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| to leonifan |
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By ljr - Posted on December 16, 2004 - 23:18:02 (#15070)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I hope it will be usefull for you.
Bye
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| re: SCSI |
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By leonifan - Posted on December 16, 2004 - 21:53:10 (#15069)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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@ljr:
Thanks! My sister is looking after a parcel for me which I was not here to collect, that is probably it. I was wondering what I had ordered ;-D
I am extremely grateful for this - I will use it to perfect the SCSI side of Helios, and hopefully get the Zeta Neo speed issues circumvented for those people who cannot currently use the IDE Replacement driver.
You're a hero :-)
Mark
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| to leonifan |
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By ljr - Posted on December 12, 2004 - 15:05:11 (#15031)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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Do you receive the SCSI card ? i sent it a week ago.
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| re: Helios manual |
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By leonifan - Posted on November 21, 2004 - 20:30:03 (#14827)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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@nmalth:
Don't worry, the manual will be updated, although it may be a while (Betas and then Final release will come first - no good having a great manual if the app isn't finished!!)
Thanks
Mark
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| re: LiteON & DVD |
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By leonifan - Posted on November 21, 2004 - 20:28:13 (#14826)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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@Cale:
Great news about the success you've had! Thanks for that feedback - at least it seems to imply that it might be a very specific hardware issue.
As for DVD, though, unless you have modified cdrtools yourself, then DVD currently will not work :-(
This is a projected change for the future though (and it is being currently worked on by "Vader" also), so (hopefully) no need to despair!
Thanks
Mark
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| Liteon DVD+/-RW |
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By DLaz - Posted on November 21, 2004 - 19:22:00 (#14825)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.71b2 (beta 2) |
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I've been running a new Liteon DVD+/-RW 8x drive here for about a week with Helios. So far it's worked like a charm with CD R & RWs. I'll try it out with the DVD types in the next day or so and let you know how it goes.
DLazlo
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