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| RE: Suggestions |
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By Ram - Posted on January 23, 2007 - 21:53:25 (#21239)
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Multiple Archive Extraction, Multiple Archive Testing were always in the blue-prints. I was planning to add them as "Tools" similar to File Splitter and Joiner. Problem was nobody actually wanted such a feature and programming it takes a bit of time, so I spent that time on more needed features like the "Quick Create" Tracker add-on which are more used. So, yes these features are still being considered.
>> Second, an option to not open the Desktop in a new window. While not entirely unexpected, it is a bit strange since it's already sorta open. (Might be a more of a tracker issue.)
You mean after extracting to desktop, the desktop window is opened in a new tracker window? I could simply avoid opening any tracker window if desktop is the destination location. Thanks for that bug.
> Lastly, although I'm not sure how it could be done exactly, would be more right click options. Windows archive programs tend to have a lot of these, and they are useful. An idea might be to have the tracker add-on default to extraction if all of the files are archives (and display options for quickly extracting to the same folder, subfolders, etc.).
BeOS/Zeta/Haiku don't allow such context menu customizations like in Windows. They arrange all of them neatly under "File Actions" (Zeta) or "Addons" (BeOS). This makes it much more neatly organized than having dozens of programs filling up the right-click menu with dozens of "options". Currently, you can extract an archive within 2 clicks. Open it, click the "Extract" toolbar menu and you get a list of pre-defined and auto-generated extract locations.
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| Couple feature suggestions |
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By izomiac - Posted on January 23, 2007 - 17:01:12 (#21237)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.09 |
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Let me start by saying that Beezer is certainly one of my most used applications, and I personally think it's great. That said, since I do use it quite a bit, there are a couple features that I miss.
First off, multiple archive extraction. Something like selecting 10 archives and extracting them sequentially using the same set of options from one dialog box. Recursion would also be nice. I once encountered a zip file of rar files of zip files of jpgs. While the archive was bigger than the actual extracted jpgs (and all together rather pointless), it was a pain to extract.
Second, an option to not open the Desktop in a new window. While not entirely unexpected, it is a bit strange since it's already sorta open. (Might be a more of a tracker issue.)
Lastly, although I'm not sure how it could be done exactly, would be more right click options. Windows archive programs tend to have a lot of these, and they are useful. An idea might be to have the tracker add-on default to extraction if all of the files are archives (and display options for quickly extracting to the same folder, subfolders, etc.).
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| re: language translations |
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By Ram - Posted on November 30, 2006 - 01:22:30 (#20984)
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maxwell, yes thanks for your offer but the BeOS version of Beezer though can work with multiple languages, the actual selection of languages in R5 isn't yet done. (its very similar to BeShare's language mode).
But maxwell, ZETA version of Beezer with locale kit support is working AND you can contribute your translations to those. E-Mail me v.ramshankar (-at-) gmail dot com if you're interested in lang. translations for ZETA.
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| Beezer in other languages? |
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By maxwell - Posted on November 4, 2006 - 01:03:12 (#20858)
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If it is possible, can I help with the translation into Serbian, Macedonian or Croatian?
BTW, Ram, I've tried the most recent version of Beezer, everything works O.K.
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| Re: Translators |
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By Ram - Posted on November 2, 2006 - 06:36:57 (#20854)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.09 |
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Beezer uses command line apps and not translators. The plugins are Beezer specific binaries that work with the command line apps.
The reason why I chose to use command line apps are:
1. Beezer physically does not have any compression algorithm codes in it (meaning legally no compression author can sue me for including their compression code)
2. Due to point #1 i would be forced to only include open source formats and not closed formats like RAR.
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| Translators |
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By nutela - Posted on November 2, 2006 - 04:42:39 (#20853)
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Erm since BeOS offers these nice translators do you use these (de)compression plugins as Translators?
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| Thanks Ram! |
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By maxwell - Posted on October 22, 2006 - 01:36:33 (#20804)
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Ram, thanks for the advice. I'll check that right away.
I use OpenTracker 5.0.3 now and there are no problems, maybe it's a bug in Navi Tracker? Who knows...:)
Beezer is great, keep up the good work!
Best wishes,
maxwell
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| par2 |
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By Begasus_ - Posted on October 22, 2006 - 01:22:52 (#20803)
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Don't know if it is possible to include it in Beezer, but there is a par2cmdline tool to create/extract par2 files (even check them). I ported par2cmdline a while back and it works pretty fine. ;)
See at: http://bebits.com/app/4362
Screenshot is here: http://www.bebug.be/images/apps/par2_2.png
Enjoy :)
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| Desktop window |
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By Ram - Posted on October 21, 2006 - 23:07:06 (#20802)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.09 |
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I haven't noticed this on OpenTracker or on Zeta's Tracker.
But there's a good way to avoid this altogether. Beezer's option "Open destination folder after extracting" can be made to check if it is the desktop, and if so, don't try and open it :)
Thanks for the bug report. Will be fixed in the next release.
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| Cool archiver, but a small bug I've noticed |
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By maxwell - Posted on October 21, 2006 - 16:49:39 (#20801)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.09 |
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Beezer is cool indeed and I use it all the time. But I noticed a flaw: When you drag a folder or a file on the desktop to extract it, it happens that after extraction a window with the desktop oppens and has no title bar (that happened only on NaviTracker 0.9xyz). I can't close the window, except by pressing Alt + W.
Overall, it's very good, I use it all the time. A+ for Beezer!
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| re: features to add |
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By Ram - Posted on October 15, 2006 - 22:33:56 (#20770)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.09 |
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Thanks, I'll consider those features.
Regarding expand-o-matic working faster, it takes the same number of clicks to extract an archive using Beezer. Infact Beezer can extract files with fewer clicks than Expand-o-matic (if u use the toolbar which allows various recent paths, custom paths etc.)
:)
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| features to add |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 15, 2006 - 21:57:52 (#20769)
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I'd like to request an NFO viewer integrated in the archiver that can properly view ascii art text files like here http://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?page=nfo&id=64294 (although they have been rendered with a php utility).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.nfo
I would also request a .sfv file checker that can check the crc's of the files included in the file.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sfv
I would also request a par2 functionality like this:
http://www.par2.net/
If Beezer had these features I could use it except right now expand-o-matic works faster. Thanks for considering!
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| I forgot to add |
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By Diver - Posted on June 21, 2006 - 11:09:59 (#20040)
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...that it is this bug http://haiku-os.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=423 why i posted here, but having fixed http://haiku-os.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=422 would be nice too!
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| re: Beezer in Haiku |
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By Diver - Posted on June 21, 2006 - 11:07:00 (#20039)
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> http://haiku-os.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=422
> You mean this one?
Yep.
> Yes, I can assist by providing the code Beezer does > when the "Tools" button is clicked. I don't have the > code now on this system, but I can assist.
That would be cool! Thanks!
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| Beezer in Haiku |
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By Ram - Posted on June 21, 2006 - 07:44:07 (#20038)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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http://haiku-os.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=422
You mean this one?
>> Bezeer crash if you start it abd press Tools button in the welcome window.
Yes, I can assist by providing the code Beezer does when the "Tools" button is clicked. I don't have the code now on this system, but I can assist.
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| Beezer under Haiku |
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By Diver - Posted on June 20, 2006 - 15:11:19 (#20033)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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Ram, could you have a look at http://haiku-os.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=420
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| Nice idea |
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By Ram - Posted on April 21, 2006 - 10:53:43 (#19545)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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Good idea.
But, if the user is adding thousands of files, reading mime and extension info. from every single file would take a long time.
This certainly can be done, and I will try how I can do it without hindering any existing speed. Of course I always will give a lot of options such as
1. Whether this "smart compression checking" should be done
2. What are all the mimetypes/file extensions that are considered as files that compress very little
3. How much percentage should Beezer consider as threshold for this inefficient compression?
4. What should beezer do when this threshold is exceeded, such as asking user to choose the new compression level or choose the 0% compression automatically.
Neat idea... I will try and work on it soon.
Thanks.
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| Avoiding redundant compressing |
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By leavengood - Posted on April 20, 2006 - 13:44:53 (#19531)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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I too think this would be a useful feature, but as Ram says you cannot know how little something might be compressed until it is actually compressed.
But I would recommend that Ram check the MimeType and/or extension of the files being compressed, and if certain types (rar, mp3, jpeg, or any compressed format) are the majority of what is being compressed, then either the user could be prompted saying that there will be little compressing or the compressing could just be turned off for that archive. This should be a configurable option of course. The common list of formats where this would happen are pretty reasonable to come up with. There is no need to find *every* possible format though, just the popular ones.
Regards,
Ryan Leavengood
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| RE: Perhaps |
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By Ram - Posted on November 10, 2005 - 09:36:47 (#18268)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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This is in the hands of zip, gzip, bzip2 and numerous other algorithms out there.
As far as I can tell, zip etc. cannot PREDICT how much a file will be compressed without compressing it in the first place.
My educated guess is:
*** The time it takes to PREDICT how much it would compress would be the time it takes to actually compress it. ***
Even if it can it (zip) doesn't give any options for this.
So Beezer like anyother compression format/algorithm/program out there cannot predict how much a file will be compressed BEFOREhand.
The nearest possibility to what kvdman asks is to blindly, forcefully use the store option to force only storage without compression...
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| Perhaps |
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By kvdman - Posted on November 10, 2005 - 06:59:51 (#18264)
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he means that say for instance you have a folder with files in it thats 500mb and your sole purpose is a reduction of the file size, and you spend 10 minutes compressing it. At the end you get a zip file that is less than 1% smaller. Some files like mp3s and jpegs can't really be compressed more.
It would be nice if the archiver would calculate and let you know that you're pretty much wasting your time compressing it to reduce the file size, and instead just store it?
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| RE: Smart compressor |
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By Ram - Posted on November 9, 2005 - 21:31:03 (#18263)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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Actually no format can do this AUTOMATICALLY. You need to set the option to ask the format to just store rather than compress.
Beezer too follows the same.
Before adding the files you need to store. Click "zip" menu choose "Compression Level" and choose "0 (Store)" option.
Now this will store files rather than compress in a zip.
Hope that helps.
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| idea/feature, does Beezer already have this |
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on November 9, 2005 - 18:12:06 (#18260)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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Can beezer act as a 'smart archiver' which could recognize that something is max compressed and just store it instead of trying to compress it?
When working with zip files.
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| RE: 7zip issues |
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By Ram - Posted on October 17, 2005 - 06:27:42 (#18054)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.08 |
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Thanks for reporting this.
While making the installer/zip file I forgot to include the 7zip script and was rather left as a link.
Now the 7zip script is back in the "workers" directory and everything should work properly.
Also, Sabin Beezer 0.04 will crash even with p7zip 4.20 not just the older one :)
@Jess:
Thanks for the offer :) If you can draw/convert something like the package icons shown here: http://www.yellowtab.com/downloads/ with an arrow (preferrably blue) pointing downwards, I would be very happy :)
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| 7zip issues |
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By Sabin - Posted on October 17, 2005 - 02:37:21 (#18051)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.07 |
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Version .04 worked with 7zip v4.16 and 4.20, but crashed on 4.27
I couldn't get .07 to work with any of those versions of 7zip. At first, the shortcut was pointing to the wrong place (workers/7zip -> /boot/Projects/Beezer/Source/z7Archiver/7zip). I pointed it to /boot/home/config/bin/7z, but now it will say "Adding... Error!" when creating an archive. and "Detecting format... Done.
Verifying archiver... Success.
Loading archive... Done.
" when opening an archive, but it doesn't list any files. Running R5.03.
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| Icons |
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By Jess - Posted on October 16, 2005 - 22:26:47 (#18049)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.07 |
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Beezer kicks 4%#, if you want icons, place your order & I'll gladly pitch in.
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| only problem |
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By s_d - Posted on October 16, 2005 - 07:17:38 (#18047)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.07 |
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i got with beezer was attempt to work with really big (in number of stored files) archive (Mozilla sources).
Attempt to extract single file from such archive is almost hopeless.
I think that problem is attempt of update/redraw of yet invisible items in ListView - with huge number of items
it goes superslow.
I will test this last version if things are better now in this regard
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| Re: very polished |
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By Ram - Posted on October 16, 2005 - 07:01:00 (#18046)
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@stippi:
Haha :)
comments from a fellow developer are always welcome whether they are picky or otherwise :)
You pretty much hit the nail.
The reason why I changed the icon colour is because I wanted it to look like the icon designed by yellowTAB for Beezer.
But as you would have guessed by now, I'm pretty poor at drawing icons (especially angular ones) and I haven't really sat down to work on the icon from scratch... But I guess I should.
Thanks for the suggestion, it was one of those things that I have in mind but didn't really give much importance :)
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| Very polished |
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By stippi - Posted on October 16, 2005 - 06:39:42 (#18045)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.07 |
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Ram, your app is really polished! I'm always very impressed with Beezer, because it just doesn't fail on all those little details. The user interface is very good and self explaining. The only suggestions I could give (beware... pickiness ahead) are about the icons: The yellow arrow on the box would be clearer if it had another color (the box itself is yellowish). And the perspective used for the icons could be more consistent (for those icons that use any) with the BeOS system icons. Well... I hope you realize that critizism on this level is a big compliment in itself. :-)
Best regards,
-Stephan
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| Re: suggestions |
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By Ram - Posted on October 15, 2005 - 20:24:38 (#18040)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.07 |
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Regarding default handler for all archive types.
This can be done using: Preferences->Miscellaneous and simply clicking the "register filetypes" button.
As for viewing ".nfo" files, I can make Beezer show them with a text icon inside archives, but it is the MIME type of the ".nfo" file that determines what program (stylededit, or soundplay etc.) opens the file once it is extracted.
Once Beezer extracts for viewing the ".nfo" file (or any other file for that matter), it does the equivalent of pressing the [ENTER] key through Tracker.
As for the line break format (windows/beos) I think there is an option in Zip to convert linebreaks which I can probably add.
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By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 15, 2005 - 15:01:53 (#18038)
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great documentation btw.
Please for next version
Make Beezer the default for opening all archives types in BeOS (much like in WinRar, after the installation when you choose what defaults of archives to open with)
And that the 'view file' operation is fully compatible with .nfo 'info' files, and displays the ascii art associated with them properly, and if it was made with notepad, to include a work-around to the EndLine thing bug (I think you know what I mean)
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| RE: Awesome |
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By Ram - Posted on August 2, 2005 - 06:18:25 (#17378)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.04 |
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Thanks disreali. Yeah I remember sharing Beezer at beshare a few years ago during its development.
And the great guys at BeShare helped me a lot in testing it... thanks to u and all the other beshare guys.
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| Awesome!! |
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By disreali - Posted on August 1, 2005 - 12:55:20 (#17371)
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Now that I have a working BeOS system again, it is so good to see your app on BeBits. And not only is it here, but it has been vastly improved from the beta that you shared with me a couple years ago.
Beezer has been my most used app since rebuilding my systems.
Thanks Ram.
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| RE: Don't sweat it |
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By Ram - Posted on August 1, 2005 - 07:22:48 (#17367)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.04 |
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Thanks for reporting the bug. And as you said, it is one of the least obvious bugs... I'll try and fix it soon.
Really glad so many people find the app "awesome" :^)
BeOS Community rocks!
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| Don't Sweat it |
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By Jess - Posted on July 31, 2005 - 21:56:54 (#17362)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.04 |
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Good luck with your classes, I don't have any issues with Beezer other then it would suck to not have it. Awsome Awsome work.
Looking forward to updates when you get time & also I don't normally have this situation but I figure I'd say this so you will know if it if you have not experienced it or heard of it yet. If I have two(or more) archives expanding & the app is set to close once finnished, it will close all windows & not the individual one that has finnish thus aborting the others that are say maybe only starting but certainly not finnished. I guess saying it closes all instances of the app & not a window with a status of complete would be a bit clearer. Anyhow just a UI loop hold you might wanna tackle someday, it doesn't really bug me cuz it's rare I have the situation unfold, but when I noticed I figured I should "document" it of sorts. Again thanks Beezer kicks butt.
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| RE: stippi |
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By Ram - Posted on July 31, 2005 - 10:15:27 (#17360)
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Thanks :)
Regarding my other projects -- I'm coding something for Zeta and I'm not sure If I'm allowed to tell what it is at the moment.
Also I'm currently making FileSplitter addon for Beezer as a result of requests from users. (+) some minor and not-so-minor bug fixes :) to Beezer.
This semester is very crucial for me.. hence I won't be able to sit and code for hours on end :( I need to literally put in DOUBLE the amount of effort this semester as I have twice the amount of papers to clear :(
Regards stippi & Hoping you get time to code :)
Ram.
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| Excellent GUI and Functionality |
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By stippi - Posted on July 31, 2005 - 05:39:21 (#17359)
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Hi Ram,
thank you for your nice comment over at WonderBrush. But I must say you have written a _very_ polished app youself! And when it comes to documentation, Beezer should be my source of inspiration! :-) Really, you have a great feel for form and function and style. You app even makes it obvious for a newbie how to update the contents of an existing folder with newer files from an archive, while keeping the files that are newer in the folder. A very useful operation, but not so obvious how to achieve (if you had only Expander or the CLI). In any case, your app fully deserves the high rating. Any new/other projects you're working on?
Best regards,
-Stephan
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| RE: unrar 3.4 |
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By Ram - Posted on February 12, 2005 - 05:36:28 (#15821)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.03 |
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Well, these are the options that Beezer uses with unrar 3.10:
unrar x -idp -c- -o+ -kb -ee -p- <archivename.rar> <files-to-extract> <destination-dir>/
Check if your unrar 3.4 works with the above format... If so, mail me.
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| unrar 3.4 |
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By _3dEyes_ - Posted on February 12, 2005 - 03:04:49 (#15819)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.03 |
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I build unrar 3.4 with realization of file operations through BFile. all work well (at first sight). Еxpander successfully unpacks files. Beezer reads the list of files, but does not unpack: (
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| RE: Tracker add-on |
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By Ram - Posted on February 11, 2005 - 03:24:25 (#15808)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.03 |
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I don't use expander anymore, infact I never did - i used to use Squeezer before and now Beezer.
As for creating archives, I use Zip-o-matic and sometimes Beezer.
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| RE: Tracker add-on |
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By zuMi - Posted on February 11, 2005 - 02:43:41 (#15805)
Current version when comment was posted: 0.03 |
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<quote>
The reason why Beezer tracker add-on might be developed is to let users make archives similar to Zip-o-Matic but in any format (which Archiver apparently does I think)
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yes, it does
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+the features of Beezer such as password support perhaps
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Archiver doesn't, but if I was a paranoic guy, I prefer an hard encryption tool instead a bland password protection.
I'm still using the good old Expander, but I admire your work, too cool
Saludi e trigu
zuMi
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