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QuickFox and Beezer
 By kraton. - Posted on October 17, 2005 - 15:30:12   (#18055)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.2
Seems that QuickFox is not working anymore after installing beezer and register the mime types to it.

So far works fine with Zeta




quickfox
 By bullen.smith - Posted on October 13, 2005 - 06:59:15   (#18028)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.2
i just wanna say that i love this QuickFox

Thanks!
 By BeJay - Posted on October 13, 2005 - 00:36:32   (#18026)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.2
Now downloading the Netserver version - I'm looking forward to some fast browsing. :-)

Thanks!
 By IgRussell - Posted on October 13, 2005 - 00:33:57   (#18025)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.2
Thank you very much, I have just added to my links. I like your browser a lot.

QuickFox homepage and link updates
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 12, 2005 - 20:11:55   (#18024)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.2
I have subscibed to professional internet hosting now...
(for $5 a month)

I've got a homepage http://quickfox.illhostit.com

Now the links should work, as I transfered them to my server. I get 20GB a month - so I am not sure yet if that is enough.

Browse downloads here:
http://www.quickfox.illhostit.com/QuickFox_downloads/


Mr X

Server Update?
 By BeJay - Posted on October 12, 2005 - 19:23:08   (#18023)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.2
Any update from I'll Host it on when their server might be fixed?
This 'temporary situation' is becoming quite extended.

wanted screenshots
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 8, 2005 - 22:22:57   (#17989)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.2
If anyone has gotten QuickFox for BONE v2.2 to operate on YT Zeta, please take some good screenshots and contact me via email. Thankyou !

broken links
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 8, 2005 - 21:39:40   (#17988)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
yes, it is true. All files to be downloaded from illhostit.com are broken right now, I have emailed them and I will report back when I get a reply. Sorry for the inconveniance!

Update - QuickFox 2.2 for BONE has been uploaded to illhostit and now I can add it to bebits page, although the link will be broken until they fix the server.

Dead link?
 By BeJay - Posted on October 8, 2005 - 13:27:59   (#17983)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
What does this mean?

"Under temporary maintenance, will be back up soon."

What is 'soon'? Is the link dead :-(

Allready very good...
 By kraton. - Posted on October 8, 2005 - 08:45:43   (#17979)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
No Problem I am very happy to restart and be able to reboot the BeOs R5 system and start Quickfox Ver.2.2 within 20sec.

Very fast... very good netserver version. Thank you very much.

not
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 8, 2005 - 06:55:44   (#17978)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
After testing 1.5b2 for BeOS, it is not fast and would not live up to what QuickFox really is. Plus, the latest 1.6a1 is just a stable, if not the same as 1.5b2. So, no new version which uses 1.5b2

updates to come !
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 7, 2005 - 20:24:06   (#17966)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
Due to the busy activity of Firefox being updated for BeOS, I will be making another variation of QuickFox that uses the stable 1.5b2 version.
QuickFox 2.2 for BONE is finished and I just need to add it to the main page. There is a screenshot of it on the 'screenshots' option on the main page.

Mr X

re: tigerdog
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 7, 2005 - 06:31:57   (#17957)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I have yet to finish the version 2.2 for BONE and upload it to illhostit. I am using it right now, but I need to set it up in pkg format. I just had the Netserver version higher on the priority list, since I've been promising it for awhile.

I will look into that haikufox theme. I will also contact the author of iFOX about the popup icon notification... and see if he can give me a patch.

Enjoy QuickFox.

oh, and thanks
 By tigerdog - Posted on October 7, 2005 - 05:24:39   (#17956)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
glad to hear the netserver version is as good as the BONE version. If you based it on the latest firefox bleeding edge builds, it should be: they're built on the same system from identical source. Glad it's working!

thanks
 By tigerdog - Posted on October 7, 2005 - 05:22:49   (#17955)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I appreciate your rewritten QuickFox home page. You've clearly stated what's new, what's different than the ongoing development builds and really helped differentiate your work from those of the people on whose efforts QuickFox is based. You've made some interesting customizations, reflecting some strong personal preferences as to how the program "ought" to be. They may not be for everyone, but that's fine.

BTW, concerning the popup blocker being "invisible", that's an omission from the theme you've selected. HaikuFox shows it just fine and might be a good alternative for those who don't wish to wait for the theme to "catch up".

drop the act
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 6, 2005 - 17:28:45   (#17951)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
End of discussion, I don't read any of your immature legal battles, anymore.
Please, if you wish to complain, go sodomize yourselves with retractable batons.

And oh yeah, a new version 2.2 of QuickFox is coming out for net_server. It's just as good as the BONE version.

NDA's are not all the same...
 By coolbear - Posted on October 6, 2005 - 14:48:14   (#17950)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
1. NDA's don't always expire.

2. NDA's usually refer to disclosure about the performance and existence of something being revealed, typically to keep competitors of the entity that has you sign an NDA from getting trade secrets or other information that may not be desireable to let them know, such as the current state of development of something.

3. NDA's don't pertain only to copyrighted stuff, but to *anything* being developed, or something of a secretive nature for the above reasons, or even in the case of governments and military secrets, or just personal information that would be destructive to have public to the outside world for some reason. Think espionage, governmental or business. Business is war! :)

4. Having an NDA expire (or even not expired) does not at all give anyone who doesn't own the legal rights to the topic that's under NDA the right to distribute any objects that the NDA covers. A more visible example and one that would be harder for someone to get away with (because it would be much more expensive) would be in the case of an airplane: someone under an NDA (say, a test pilot) couldn't go and then manufacture that plane legally, even once it has entered production, without the express permission of the entity that had them sign the NDA. Software is legally no different: the ease in which it can be copied is the only real difference.

Mr. X, you are far from being versed in the world of business and the rules and laws it operates by. There are many on here and in BeShare that have actually signed many NDA's in their experience, because that's part of the business. How many NDA's have you signed? Read? I'm guessing it's a big fat zero :)

new versions
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 3, 2005 - 16:37:33   (#17927)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
New updated versions of QuickFox (v3, for BONE, v3 for NetServer) will be started today, and expect them to come soon. Will post speed comparisons of older vs new versions.



OHHH! Nevermind, I am an idiot.
 By tuishimi - Posted on October 3, 2005 - 00:03:33   (#17921)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
A link TO B O N E was provided! DOH!

What the Hell?
 By tuishimi - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 23:56:53   (#17920)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
When did BeBits start caring about BONE? For the past 5 years every Be app developer posted builds for NetServer and Bone!!???!! Why is everyone being a nutball and taking it out on this guy?

To Kancept
 By vsucks - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 23:49:17   (#17919)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
http://wiki.bebits.com/page/WhatIsBone

Someone ought to see to this, then..

temporarily down
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 21:58:10   (#17917)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
expect the QuickFox 2.1 to be available tues, or weds the 4 of october.

temporarily down
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 21:57:50   (#17916)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
expect the QuickFox 2.1 to be available tues, or weds the 4 of october.

Re: Soulbender
 By kancept - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 19:15:20   (#17909)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
There was no source code hosted at Bentonrea, yet it was closed. Peter@loved has them at his website, but he does not link to them from BeBits. He has a link to his web page.

Overall, this should be a non-discussion. The links should be removed in the description.

bs0
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 17:36:40   (#17903)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
What's the great idea of you linking your email address to this: darkcode@spymac.com ?
Are you trying to prove something?
http://www.google.ca/search?q=darkcode%40spymac.com&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
Autor: Filip Dybowski (darkcode@spymac.com). 3RWU]HEQ\ E G]LH SURJUDP 1HUR ILUP\ $KHDG .LHG\ VL Z QD ]DRSDWU]\V] uruchom go. ...

And to set it straight to you bs0, if you think editing the UserBootscript and UserShutdownFinishScript in the
/boot/home/config/boot
is a system file area, please stop using BeOS or anything else for that matter, since you are too arrogant enough to figure out simple computing concepts. It's called 'User this' user that, for a REASON it means its okay to add things to it. I do nothing to this directory incase you are worried about that.
The system file area is here:
/boot/beos/system/boot , and take a note of that, and actually try the associated program you are acusing the crimes of before you say anything.

NDA's do expire
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 17:23:57   (#17901)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
PLUS all proper NDA's have an expiry date, and I think it has been way past the time already. Plus last year, I emailed palm source and I didn't get a reply about BONE. It's either they don't care, or they don't know what the hell that is. So if it makes those complainers happy, I will email the new company and ask them if they have even heard about it and how much they care, since I am sure it has everything to do with cellphones and what stupid extra features they are gonna get, and if someone links to a BONE install they're gonna go to jail. Well that's not the case. Also I wouldnt mind just wiping all the talkback comments for my app, since most of them are borderline rude, or just rude.

zzz
 By bs0 - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 11:14:52   (#17895)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
mr.x, i won't install anything, especially from YOU, what is interferencing in my system files.

And...
 By Soulbender - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 11:11:46   (#17894)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
...BeBits isnt actually *hosting* the files so bebits in itself has nothing to fear. Unless it's hosted in some insane backwater country with fascist copyright laws...:P


Oh come on
 By Soulbender - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 11:02:57   (#17893)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
...quite picking on MrX for this. As lame as he is it's even more lame to whine about him linking to BONE. I dont see anyone bitching about any of the other many apps on bebits that requires BONE. Peter Moore even links to his homepage that has/had links BONE. Noone's whining about that.
Anyone who actually think *any* company that matters on this planet gives a flying fsck about BONE being shared needs to seek professional help.
Oh, and I hope none of you people whining use Max or Deved or other "distro" since they're also illegal.


but palm does not own it anymore...
 By coolbear - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 09:34:59   (#17892)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
You completely do not understand how reality works when it comes to ownership, Mr. X.

Yes, a Japanese company (Access) bought PalmSource, which owns all the rights to the IP acquired when Palm bought out Be Inc. which means that the new company has full legal right to do as they darn well please, including sueing your butt for pirated software, since you don't have a contract/NDA with them as mentioned. The only thing that has changed in practical terms is (perhaps) the name of the company that would take you to court; the reality is that you *still* don't have anymore right to violate the IP rights as it would seem you're doing, regardless of the chain of ownership, of which you most assuredly are *not* part of that chain of ownership.

What you seem to be saying is equivalent to saying that since a car has been sold from the original owner, and then that next owner sold it to someone else, that you can then simply steal that car because it has changed hands too many times, and you see it as not being a problem. Well, it doesn't work that way!

re
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 08:18:56   (#17889)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
but palm does not own it anymore... some japanease company does now.

illegal
 By kancept - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 06:24:25   (#17888)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
BONE 7a is legal ONLY for those who signed an NDA to work on it during the period Be, Inc was developing it. You were definitely not around at that time Mr. X, so I can guarantee you do not have an NDA to posses such software.

Linking to it not only compromises you, but BeBits as well. Palm could, in theory, shutdown BeBits for linking illegal software, much like Bentonrea was closed for having users sharing the leaked source code and BONE. We do not want this to happen to BeBits. If that is what you want, leave it up and see what happens to the listing. The owners of BeBits have been notified of this transgression.

illegal ?
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 04:00:59   (#17885)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
Where does it state officially that bone7a is illegal, and does that person who says it's illegal have legal authority to say that its illegal in the first place?

ATTN: bebits administrators or moderators.
 By mmadia - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 03:15:47   (#17884)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
remove the links in your text description.
you're not allowed to link to that.

BeBits is a site for legal software.

I like this one A LOT
 By IgRussell - Posted on October 2, 2005 - 02:32:22   (#17883)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.1
I like this one even more, its better than previous. It crashes now and then, but it's so nice as extra fast way for googling, and it does good service as extra browser. Its kind of foxy netpositive, I like this a lot.

Avoid.
 By vsucks - Posted on October 1, 2005 - 19:19:47   (#17881)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.0
Well, I tried QuickFox. It worked pretty well for a while. It loaded quickly, occasional crashes (standard BeZilla bug fare).I tried to get Flash working, but it appears to screw with the profile and cache settings. Meaning that whenever I tried to access a site with Flash, it went to the cache. But it used the URL's root directory. There were error messages (could not find file http://www.site.com/cache/FOOBAR or something similar).

I even tried a non-RAMdisk build; it only worked after deleting the profile. I recommend avoiding this if you have Flash. It's not worth the 3-second trimmed load time.

Uhm,
 By tqh - Posted on September 28, 2005 - 11:29:13   (#17844)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.0
That's one of the known bugs in the Firefox entry.

found a crazy bug
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on September 28, 2005 - 03:26:17   (#17840)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.0
to do with firefox 1.6a1 - Dragging the window upwards will briefly/flashly expose you previous page you viewed.

This only works sometimes, not all the time.

Also here's a tip for QuickFox users: you will need to use this frequentky. Often a page will download properly, but firefox 1.6a1 will not render the page properly (examples are missing text boxes, unresponcive link clicking etc) simply hit alt+leftarrow and then alt+right arrow. This goes back in history, then back, making firefox 1.6a1 re-paint the window. At least its a quick-work around for this bug, for now, until firefox gets fixed on the mozilla/bleeding edge page.

Enjoy :)

Just a note
 By tqh - Posted on September 26, 2005 - 19:02:40   (#17823)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.0
I won't help anyone with Firefox-problems that are using QuickFox. His release-notes as s_d states is also very confusing as he takes credit for all my work, but also avoids including my section of known bugs. I'd recommend you to not use my release-notes in your cut-n-paste way as your own next time.

The bleeding edge builds is for testing and veryfing our patches with a broader audience, and even though we only release those that we have already tested a lot, it's not very smart to use it for things like this (or distribution in an OS). My recommendation is that he builds his own builds, preferable from release-sources. I can't help if there are ppl who are foolish enough to support this, it is just a hack packaged with my optimized Firefox in ram-fs, and with very confusing release-notes.

re: kraton
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on September 26, 2005 - 16:40:45   (#17821)
 Current version when comment was posted: 2.0
This is a problem with FF for BeOS 1.6a1 .
As usual on BeOS, Firefox is not perfect. It could use some more patches, like the over-activity on the hdd when you go to save something, importing bookmakrs, view-source window that the scrollbars work, and probly a whole lot more if I wrote them down.

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