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Yes, it's seems like Java... a little bit.
 By jalbam - Posted on August 7, 2006 - 13:15:37   (#20326)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
JavaScript programs can runs offline like Java, or runs online like Java applets.
We can make it better programs with JavaScript.
Java is more powerful than JavaScript, but doesn't exists a Java console under BeOS at this time. And JavaScript and Java are very differents. It's better, I think, to use JavaScript if we can. JavaScript runs on BeOS :)
If all communities allows Java applications like normal software and it needs a Java console, why not do the same with JavaScript software? It's only my opinion.

why not?
 By bedrukte - Posted on August 7, 2006 - 13:06:27   (#20325)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
Why not use BeBits to publish it on? Not only BeOS native software runs on it. In my opinion, we must receive web-based software like a good thing and a good alternative to native software. BeOS community can benefit from it and BeBits it's the better place to promote it.
JavaScript game its not like an GBA rom or other rom. JavaScript it's a interpreted independent-OS language and all OS with a console can use it (like Java). Exists better applications written in JavaScript (DHTML Lemmings), word processors (Writely), etc. And I think is very interesting to BeOS community.

i agree with jonas
 By AlienSoldier - Posted on August 7, 2006 - 12:53:23   (#20324)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
it's not that i don't find "the more the better" when it come to beos game, it's just that it dillute the chance to find "real" game.

It's like posting a rom for a homebrew GBA game because there is a GBA BeOS emulator.

The error is more in the bebits way to categorise game, being too generic. For exemple, beemulated would be a more suitable place for game like that.

IMO (take 2)
 By jonas.kirilla - Posted on August 7, 2006 - 12:10:28   (#20323)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
It's good that you're having fun making these games, but it's not BeOS software. It belongs *in* the web.
You don't need a site like BeBits to publish it on.

I can't fix this bug :(
 By jalbam - Posted on August 7, 2006 - 11:06:50   (#20322)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
The bug was you described is I was named "ghost paddle" (or "ghost ball"?). Its happends more frequently when ball runs faster. I think this is a problem with collision code and horizontal displacement of ball when it is increasing. But I don't know to fix it yet, sorry :(
Yes, its possible to use sound on JavaScript games, but I don't know to make this yet.
Thanks for your help.

more bugs
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 7, 2006 - 01:05:18   (#20317)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
Now the x-hair is in the centre of the paddle and everything with that works great.

Okay this time I know exactly what that odd behavior was with the ball being stuck and going fast in between the edge.

The top and bottom of the paddle that I control, well this is where the error is. Say that if the ball hits directly the top of edge of the paddle, the ball will 'enter' inside the paddle bounce off the edges and then get ejected out the bottom. My suggestion to fix this is to only make the leading right edge of the paddle able to touch the ball. I have also noticed when the computer tries to get the ball, sometimes the ball hits the edge of the computer's paddle but it goes through as if he's missed the ball, which he did not.

Also on the paddle I control. The ball sinks in somewhat to the paddle. The yellow square just penetrates the edge of the paddle. This seems like a clipping bug, as we call it in 3D games. The computer's paddle bounces exactly on the edge of the paddle.

Can sound effects be added to this game?

crosshair cursor "+" now are in the middle of paddle
 By jalbam - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 20:47:39   (#20315)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
Now you can download it again and test it, the mouse cursor are in the middle of paddle (when control is set to "mouse"). Thanks.

crosshair cursor "+" now are in the middle of paddle
 By jalbam - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 20:47:36   (#20314)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
Now you can download it again and test it, the mouse cursor are in the middle of paddle (when control is set to "mouse"). Thanks.

the one way
 By jalbam - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 19:16:37   (#20311)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
the one way, at the moment, to shot at top is clicking in the top of page but it's very difficult because are a short space to click it. In the future, if I can, i will fix it ;) thanks.

bug still there
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 19:06:29   (#20310)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
What happens is that the + crosshair which controls the paddle with the mouse. The crosshair is not going on exactly center of the paddle, it is above too much and then when I move the paddle up the top to serve ball the cursor goes out of the page and onto the tabs.

Thanks, I fix one bug but i don't know fix anymore yet sorry :(
 By jalbam - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 18:22:47   (#20309)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
Now I fix the bug and you can shot at top if you want. Download it again and test if you want.
I know the bug of "ghost paddle" that the ball crosses the paddle or hurl some times and then shots to random direction. But I don't know to fix it yet, sorry.
I don't know the bug of stopped ball and computer paddle. If you see again, please put here the text that may shows in JavaScript console of Firefox.
I don't want to create scores because I need to use PHP and I would like that this game runs offline without a server (also I was create some games in PHP, perhaps I will upload to here). But it's easy to create if somebody wants.
The game of the link, curveball, it's nice and fun but I just learn to create games and I don't know if I can reamke it. But surely someone can to do it :)
Thanks to all BeOS Mr X ;)

I found some bugs
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 17:42:57   (#20308)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.26a
I got up to level 9 with 9040 points and then the yellow ball just stopped - froze in mid-play. The computer player also just stopped and did not continue.

There are some bugs which are limiting my ability to play. I cannot make a serve to the ball on the top with the paddle while using the mouse. The mouse cursor goes out of the black area and I can't click to make the ball go.

The edges of the red paddles are very buggy, sometimes the ball goes straight through them, and sometimes the ball gets stuck in between the far left of your paddle and the white horizontal line behind your paddle, and then after bouncing very fast behind the ball then shoots out onto the court.

Consider adding a high scores feature, where the highscore can be 'submitted' to a central server, maybe using php.

We need more javascript games. Javascript is lighter than flash and can work on BeOS. Here is my favorite flash game that I wish could work on BeOS.
http://allthingsflash.com/files/games/curveball.swf

mouse control and english version is here
 By jalbam - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 13:18:38   (#20303)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
Now you can use mouse to control game, thanks to BeOS Mr X for suggestion.
And now you can download english version ;)

games on same category or in a homepage
 By jalbam - Posted on August 6, 2006 - 11:35:22   (#20302)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
I'm writting my own homepage with my games, but I think that BeOS needs more software and it's a good idea to upload JavaScript applications to BeBits because are the future in "Web 2.0" (DHTMl, AJAX, etc.). BeOS community can benefits with these applications and can find on it an alternative to native software. Examples: word processors, instant messengers, games, etc.
When I can I would like to code a script to automatic install and run my game on BeOS and upload it there.
The same category idea I don't know if is a good idea because it's true that La Ranisima and PunkPong are in the same categories but I will upload more games that must be in different categories: adventure, puzzle, etc. Perhaps I could upload in a pack the games which are in the same category, but I think that are very differents to each other.
Sorry if you think I'm spamming with applications. This isn't my will. I'm sorry.
Sorry for my english.

or this could be done
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 5, 2006 - 13:31:21   (#20298)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
Since all the apps are in the same category of DHTML I suggest that you [Juan Alba Maldonado] post all your apps at once in one app page, maybe 'DHTML javascript games pack' this way the bebits app emails won't get spammed as much and the new software portion of the main page won't get spammed as much either. This way if someone has a search query on one of your apps, they get one page result and after that they may just download the rest or all of them. Besides the programs are quite small.

web games belong on the web
 By jonas.kirilla - Posted on August 5, 2006 - 11:32:29   (#20297)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
Why don't you publish this game on your homepage instead of on BeBits? If it's already available online you could make a webpage of links to games that work in Firefox on BeBits, and then tell your online BeOS friends or the community news sites about it.

I don't think it belongs on BeBits. BeBits is for BeOS-native software, fonts, etc, primarily. If you want to publish multiplatform material you've got to have a very good reason, and something native added, like a script, an installer, some wrapping or helper app or documentation that specifically targets BeOS/Haiku/Zeta.

Thanks
 By jalbam - Posted on August 5, 2006 - 10:56:34   (#20296)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
Thanks to all comments. It's true: posts are outdate. Also are a problem in "Downloads" because we can see "18 total; 35 recently". And in "rakings for this app" we can see:
Recent Downloads - # 37
Total Downloads - # 3,701
Total Views - # 3,708
User Ratings - N/A
This app haven't so many visits and downloads ;) The same happens in La Ranisima application.
But no problem, I belive that is a bug. Thanks to all ;)
The improvement with mouse compatibility in the game I don't know if is a good idea because majority of Pongs games uses it. But thanks for your opinion, may be in future I will release a new version with this feature ;)
As soon as possible, I will upload more DHTML games that runs under BeOS if people wants.

good game idea but current version needs improvement
 By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 4, 2006 - 17:18:51   (#20292)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
I like the game. Uses little cpu. But the factor that is keeping me from doing good is the keyboard to move the paddles. My ability is limited to progress in the game because of this. Gameplay is not smooth and as accurate as it could be, when using the mouse.

app ID was reused
 By MYOB - Posted on August 4, 2006 - 17:04:32   (#20291)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
Those comments were made for a previous, removed app (321 DVD Ripper IIRC). Obviously, the talkback entries were forgotten when deleting the app... forget about it, they are't intended for this app, they were intended for a very much Windows-only application

Re: jalbam
 By zuMi - Posted on August 4, 2006 - 16:29:52   (#20290)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
Yo jalbam, don't worry.

Just give a deeper look on those post:

"By bs0 - Posted on August 2, 2006 - 10:32:15 (#20266)
Current version when comment was posted: 1.0"

You posted this app today but all comments were made 2 days ago, and take look to the version ( 1.0.1 ), it differs from yours.

Obviously it's a bug in the talkback system.

Regards,
zuMi



This app uses JavaScript language and is multiplatform
 By jalbam - Posted on August 4, 2006 - 13:51:15   (#20289)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
This application was written in JavaScript.
JavaScript isn't only for Windows. JavaScript is an multiplatform language that runs under BeOS with Mozilla and Firefox browsers.
It isn't an Windows application like some comments said.
Then, if this application can runs on BeOS correctly I think BeBits is a good place for this. And more software for BeOS will be good for this OS.
But... yes, it isn't Quake, etc. and isn't a good game like this ;)

multiplatform
 By jalbam - Posted on August 4, 2006 - 12:23:53   (#20288)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.25a
this aplication isn't a Windows aplication! it's just an multiplatform aplication written in JavaScript, and runs correctly under BeOS with Firefox.

argh
 By bs0 - Posted on August 2, 2006 - 10:32:15   (#20266)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.01
delete this sh1t and him from BeBits ASAP

Not good place Shi.... software for Shi... OS !!!
 By cvincent - Posted on August 2, 2006 - 10:25:24   (#20265)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.01
Go out from BeBits

Re: windows software
 By tqh - Posted on August 2, 2006 - 09:08:54   (#20263)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.01
It is at least the second time he posted that crap here.

Windows software
 By Das Jott - Posted on August 2, 2006 - 07:22:30   (#20260)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.01
Well, if you look on the main page here objectively, you must confess that it isn't explicitly clear that BeBits is only for BeOS/ZETA/Haiku.
In my humble opinion.

For people who don't even know BeOS, it may be hard to see.

Perhaps a little text could be entered on the main page to make clear what OS this page is meant for.

Just my 2 cents,
Das Jott

windows software
 By chriscapoccia - Posted on August 1, 2006 - 22:11:02   (#20258)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.01
windows software doesn't belong here.

 
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